Bios reading not supported on this device как исправить - Исправление ошибок и поиск оптимальных решений проблем

Hi im trying to diagnose a dead ati 4870 1gig and cannot seem to get GPU-Z to read/save the bios information. I have tried several different versions of GPU-Z upto 5.0 and none seem to be able to read the bios on this card. Also GPU-Z is not reading memory size or type correctly, im booting my computer using an nvidia card and have the 4870 in the second pci-x slot, im running windows xpx64, im not sure if this will cause any problems.

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/11/01/09/bdk.png

robal

Hmm I have tried flashing its bios several times but in the second pci express slot as im not getting any video output from it. I have tried an automated flash using a .bat with the card in the pci express slot one but this did not seem to work either. Is xpx64 the reason i cannot read bios info in GPU Z? I have a vista x64 machine I could put the card into if this will work?

robal

I think XPx64 may have something to do with this.
It’s quite an awkward OS. (Windows Server 2003 x64 boxed as ‘XP’)

You may have more luck with Vistax64 and GPUZ.

However, if you’ve tried flashing in DOS mode, and have no output, that suggests your GPU is really dead.

Hmm I thought this maybe the case, im thinking of trying to reball it or reflow it to see if that gets it going again. When I bought the card the it had video with coloured pixels and lines but then nothing which sounds like the gpu has unseated its self through to much heat. I will continue trying flashing it on another computer before I try that tho..Thanks..

robal

That’s interesting, that you mention re-soldering.

I’ve got a 4850 with faulty RAM (produces typical memory-related artefacts), and I was thinking about re-soldering GDDRs using «home» method.

Have you got proper BGA equipment, or do you intent to have fun with tin foil and blowtorch ?

Cheers,

Im thinking of buying the BGA kit off ebay to try fix it but may have a go getting it off the cheap way :laugh: . Have you managed to source replacement ram modules from anywhere? Im really using this whole experience to learn about fixing pcb components and might replace ram modules to if its cheap..

robal

I tried hard, but it seems impossible to get replacement GDDR chips.
Unless you’re OEM and want to buy a reel of 1000 of them

So far, the only source of GDDR chips I know of, is another fried card.
For 4850 and 4870 that would be 4800 series, some 4700-series cards and some of geforce line: 8800GT and 9800GT.
You need to check your GDDRs and search other cards using the same.

I’ve heard that it’s possible to boot on a card with some of GDDR chips missing, and that it will result in parts of screen containing gibberish.
If that’s the case, one could try desoldering one chip and ‘see’ the changes in artefacting (and maybe tell you whether the unsoldered chip was the faulty one or not).

Cheers,

Well if you want to go cheap, there is always the oven method. I’ve resurrected a 6800GT that was completely dead with no video output, an xbox 360 that needed the southbridge chipset reflowed, and the latest was a 9800GTX that had memory artifacts. 350 degrees F for about 9 to 10 minutes and each of them have come back to life. Just make sure to prop the card on standoffs or something. The first two times I removed the heatsinks and any plastic I could; on the 9800GTX I threw the whole thing in since it was free from a co-worker and I didn’t feel like messing with it much. Both ways the outcome was the same.

Ive tried to cook it already actually but only at 200C I will give it another go this weekend at 350C and see what happens. I repaired my xbox and laptop this way and they have been fine since..

Couldn’t hurt giving it one more shot, just to clarify though I was baking it at 350 Fahrenheit (so about 175 C). I let the oven pre-heat then put it in for about 10 minutes. Take out, allow to cool, then hopefully use revived card.

Thanks for that Beertintedgoggles I will try cooking it again..Also does anyone know how to diagnose a bad ram module on a graphics card? is there anyway to test the modules whilst still on the board? Also could a bad ram module stop my card outputting video? One thing I forgot to mention was that the card also had two bad capacitors which I have now replaced, before replacing them the card was getting very hot around this area where there are several mosfets and smaller capacitors. Im also wondering if maybe the mosfets have packed up, again does anyone know if bad mosfets could stop the card from outputting video? Sorry for all the questions this is the first time ive replaced pcb parts. :toast:

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robal

I think XPx64 may have something to do with this.
It’s quite an awkward OS. (Windows Server 2003 x64 boxed as ‘XP’)

You may have more luck with Vistax64 and GPUZ.

However, if you’ve tried flashing in DOS mode, and have no output, that suggests your GPU is really dead.

robal

That’s interesting, that you mention re-soldering.

I’ve got a 4850 with faulty RAM (produces typical memory-related artefacts), and I was thinking about re-soldering GDDRs using «home» method.

Have you got proper BGA equipment, or do you intent to have fun with tin foil and blowtorch ?

Cheers,

robal

I tried hard, but it seems impossible to get replacement GDDR chips.
Unless you’re OEM and want to buy a reel of 1000 of them

Cheers,

Ive tried to cook it already actually but only at 200C I will give it another go this weekend at 350C and see what happens. I repaired my xbox and laptop this way and they have been fine since..

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I’m trying to save my Nvidia GPU’s BIOS to a file, but I keep getting this error.
My computer is the ASUS TUF Gaming FX505DD laptop.
GPU I’m trying to save: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Mobile 3 GB
I’m trying to create a Windows gaming virtual machine on Linux, following this tutorial.
If anyone has the ROM file for this GPU, or has a solution that allows me to dump the rom file, that would be amazing. Thank you.

W1zzard

Try with NVFlash from our downloads section. Any luck?

StefanM

Did you actually select the NVIDIA GPU from the pull-down menu?
If you select the AMD iGPU that comes with your system, GPU-Z will fail

So does mine: Heavy Metal umlaut Y = $FF = -1 = buffer over/underrun?

W1zzard

Did you actually select the NVIDIA GPU from the pull-down menu?
If you select the AMD iGPU that comes with your system, GPU-Z will fail

So does mine: Heavy Metal umlaut Y = $FF = -1 = buffer over/underrun?

Which IGP is that?

StefanM

Cezanne, ID 1638
GPUCapsViewer reads the BIOS version at least.

W1zzard

Could you create a new thread, so I can keep track of this?

I’ve already tried NVFlash with no luck. And I’ve definitely selected my dedicated Nvidia GPU. Anything else I can do? Thanks.

red-ray

Did you ever solve this? I am wondering if my SIV utility can dump it, to check look at the Menu->Machine->GPU VBIOS Status panel and if there seems to be some Raw Image Data press [ GPU-0 ] to dump it.

red-ray’s SIV utility seems to have worked, it has saved the file, although I haven’t tested it yet. Thanks!

Red-Ray,
worked on mine.
Had the same problem
Bios reading not supported on this device.

I used your latest and dumped!

THank you!

Do you know how to calculate NVCAP?

I need for MacOS

red-ray

Do you know how to calculate NVCAP? I need for MacOS

I am pleased to see SIV was able to dump the VBIOSes, given the code SIV uses to implement this am surprised GPUZ is unable to do this and wonder why not.

I had never heard of NVCAPs so after a quick Google found https://github.com/1Revenger1/NVCAP-Calculator and assume you could use this. I guess it’s MacOS only and as SIV is Windows only am not inclined to add NVCAP reporting to SIV.

I am pleased to see SIV was able to dump the VBIOSes, given the code SIV uses to implement this am surprised GPUZ is unable to do this and wonder why not.

I had never heard of NVCAPs so after a quick Google found https://github.com/1Revenger1/NVCAP-Calculator and assume you could use this. I guess it’s MacOS only and as SIV is Windows only am not inclined to add NVCAP reporting to SIV.

Your app, It sure worked. I was glad.
But to no avail.
The IGPU takes over in laptops. The variables are not hacked well.
For desktops there’s flexibility.

Thank you it sure saved scrounging the Net.

Is there a way of dumping AMD Cezanne 5750GE iGPU Bios somehow? I’d need that for proxmox virtualization.

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W1zzard

Try with NVFlash from our downloads section. Any luck?

StefanM

Did you actually select the NVIDIA GPU from the pull-down menu?
If you select the AMD iGPU that comes with your system, GPU-Z will fail

So does mine: Heavy Metal umlaut Y = $FF = -1 = buffer over/underrun?

W1zzard

Did you actually select the NVIDIA GPU from the pull-down menu?
If you select the AMD iGPU that comes with your system, GPU-Z will fail

So does mine: Heavy Metal umlaut Y = $FF = -1 = buffer over/underrun?

Which IGP is that?

StefanM

Cezanne, ID 1638
GPUCapsViewer reads the BIOS version at least.

W1zzard

Could you create a new thread, so I can keep track of this?

I’ve already tried NVFlash with no luck. And I’ve definitely selected my dedicated Nvidia GPU. Anything else I can do? Thanks.

red-ray

red-ray’s SIV utility seems to have worked, it has saved the file, although I haven’t tested it yet. Thanks!

Red-Ray,
worked on mine.
Had the same problem
Bios reading not supported on this device.

I used your latest and dumped!

THank you!

Do you know how to calculate NVCAP?

I need for MacOS

red-ray

Do you know how to calculate NVCAP? I need for MacOS

I am pleased to see SIV was able to dump the VBIOSes, given the code SIV uses to implement this am surprised GPUZ is unable to do this and wonder why not.

I am pleased to see SIV was able to dump the VBIOSes, given the code SIV uses to implement this am surprised GPUZ is unable to do this and wonder why not.

I had never heard of NVCAPs so after a quick Google found https://github.com/1Revenger1/NVCAP-Calculator and assume you could use this. I guess it’s MacOS only and as SIV is Windows only am not inclined to add NVCAP reporting to SIV.

Your app, It sure worked. I was glad.
But to no avail.
The IGPU takes over in laptops. The variables are not hacked well.
For desktops there’s flexibility.

Thank you it sure saved scrounging the Net.

Is there a way of dumping AMD Cezanne 5750GE iGPU Bios somehow? I’d need that for proxmox virtualization.

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I have an Asus Scar 15 with RTX 3080Ti, whose vbios got bricked while trying to flash GE76 175W vbios. Now I’m trying to get someone who owns the 3080ti variant to dump vBIOS, using GPU Z, but GPU Z says «BIOS reading not supported on this device». How do I solve this issue? And is there any alternate way of dumping vbios? Please help. I’m stuck at a mere 200mhz on the GPU, and the laptop is totally unusable.

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· 11 mo. agoROG Zephyrus Duo 15 | i9-10980HK | RTX 2080S | 32GB | 4K 120Hz

That’s why making your own backup is critical.

Ask them to go to the Device Manager and disable the RTX 3080 Ti, then retry. If GPU-Z still fails then tell them to use NVFlash.

level 2

Can you please tell me how to use nvflash to backup vbios?

level 1

· 11 mo. ago · edited 11 mo. agoMSI GE75 Raider RTX 2060 (115w) 1+2+1=4 TB SSDs

Return the laptop and get a replacement. Just say your laptop stopped working.

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· 11 mo. agoROG Zephyrus Duo 15 | i9-10980HK | RTX 2080S | 32GB | 4K 120Hz

That’s not how it works. If they check the vBIOS of the card and notice that it isn’t the right one, the warranty will go poof. It’s a simple fix though.

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Bro asus and msi how tf do u flash from 2 different manufacturers

level 2

Are you asking how? If so then the makers of the laptop usually have no play in it and the device I.d. Can be the same and allow for a successful flash , or even a mismatch can do the same. I’ve been nodding since the early 2000s and can say as long as you understand what you’re getting into then no card can truly be bricked.

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День Добрый!
Карта ASUS GeForce 970 Strix
При перепрошивке БИОС под Windows 10 выдал такую ошибку:
Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.10240]
(c) Корпорация Майкрософт (Microsoft Corporation), 2015 г. Все права защищены.

C:WINDOWSsystem32>cd c:nvflash

c:nvflash>nvflash —list

NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.190)
Simplified Version For OEM Only

NVIDIA display adapters present in system:
<0> D17U-20 (10DE,13C2,1043,8508) H:—:NRM B:01,PCI,D:00,F:00

c:nvflash>nvflash -6 GM204_Castom.rom

NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.190)
Simplified Version For OEM Only

Checking for matches between display adapter(s) and image(s)…

Adapter: D17U-20 (10DE,13C2,1043,8508) H:—:NRM B:01,PCI,D:00,F:00

Warning: Please make sure no Nvidia Display Driver is installed before continue
Else update may fail, and system may crash!
Press ‘y’ to continue (any other key to abort):

Current — Version:84.04.1F.00.2B ID:10DE:13C2:1043:8508
GM204 Board (Normal Board)
Replace with — Version:84.04.1F.00.2B ID:10DE:13C2:1043:8508
GM204 Board (Normal Board)

Update display adapter firmware?
Press ‘y’ to confirm (any other key to abort):

Error Code:8 BCRT_ERROR_CODE_BODY_SIGNATURE_MISMATCH

VBIOS Signature Check failed.

Error Code:7 BCRT_ERROR_CODE_BODY_FNV_HASH_MISMATCH

VBIOS image failed certification sanity check.

BCRT Error: Certificate verification failed

ERROR: ERROR:BIOS Cert Verification Error, Update aborted

c:nvflash>

БИОС правил по инструкции в шапке темы о GTX 980/970
Подскажите пожалуйста…

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whenever i try to save my bios with GPU-Z it says «Bios reading not supported on this device» is there any way to get around this? oh and my card is an ATI X1300 mobility radeon.

You have a mobile GPU, meaning integrated. The graphics BIOS is part of the main system BIOS, hence why it cant be extracted.

dang, oh well thanks for the help, weird thing is I’ve taken my laptop apart and i could have sworn i saw the card in there separately from the processors or anything else for that matter.

WOA Alex, your kinda wrong on that one.
X1300 Mobility is a seperate card entirely.
The X1150, X1200, X1250 are integrated.
Your cards external read/write pins have been cut to prevent improper flashing by ATI.

Didnt realise it was a separate card sorry. Thanks for the input Flyoride. :toast:

Hello everybody. Is there any solution to this issue? I have an MSI 4870 512mb radeon and receive the same message, just wanted mod fan settings to higher value, since it’s a little bit hot on defaults. Need your help, where do I look for those pins?

Well the problem was in Win7, I have changed OS to MS windows Xp SP2 and successfully dumped 4870’s bios using GPU-Z. Good luck all!

whenever i try to save my bios with GPU-Z it says «Bios reading not supported on this device» is there any way to get around this? oh and my card is an ATI X1300 mobility radeon.

I have same problem
The card is a Mobility Radeon HD 4330 (Acer Aspire 5538G)
OS Windows XP 64 bit, Catalyst 9.12, GPU-Z 0.3.8

Atti, which BIOS version are you using with your Acer?

The laptop’s BIOS is v1.15 and the Radeon’s BIOS is VER011.022.002.002.033474

Video rom from v1.15, hope it helps

Atti.zip

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WOA Alex, your kinda wrong on that one.
X1300 Mobility is a seperate card entirely.
The X1150, X1200, X1250 are integrated.
Your cards external read/write pins have been cut to prevent improper flashing by ATI.

that’s curious didn’t know it was possible to prevent reading an BIOS. Although can understand writing/flashing.

Video rom from v1.15, hope it helps

Thank you very much!

I didn’t think the vido BIOS is a part of the system BIOS :wtf:

But… how can I write the modified video rom back?

But… how can I write the modified video rom back?

If your really confident you can change the Video BIOS how you want it without changing the length then it should just be a case of replacing the Insyde EFI module in the v1.15 BIOS and flashing the whole BIOS. Well, that’s the theory anyway

I don’t know anything about the Video BIOS but have played with Insyde. If your happy to take the risk let me know and I’ll try to help you out.

EDIT (3-Jan) : I guess from a lack of an answer that your not happy to take the risk. Probably wise since there is a chance of bricking.
If anyone is curious I successfully changed the Video BIOS in my old EFI main BIOS with a newer version extracted from a newer EFI main BIOS. So it can be done.

Before

After

You might wonder why I didn’t just update the whole BIOS to the new one! Well the main BIOS I’m using fixes a few things that a multitude of later BIOS updates from HP didn’t. Also it seems that either HP silently removed or broke the esata boot capability in later BIOS versions. So although my old main BIOS is a little buggy it’s good enough for what I want but the later versions aren’t, at least for me that is. Of course other people might find the newer BIOS’s better.

Last edited: Jan 3, 2010

I modified the bios, I decreased the clock rates. The lenght is equal

Can you help?

Thanks!

ps: Acer issued a new bios

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Okay, I’ll have a look at putting something together. If you haven’t already, make a backup of the BIOS your using now. You should be able to boot to DOS and use flashit utility which comes with the BIOS update archive.

Flashit.exe backup.fd /G

where backup.fd is the name used for the backup file that will created. The Insyde EFI BIOS tends to come with a built in crisis recovery although the notebook manufacturers don’t seem to document this. It tends to work along the lines of…

Placing the recovery file renamed to whatever is specific for the notebook being recovered on a medium such as a FAT formatted USB flash drive.
Removing the battery power.
Removing the AC adapter.
Holding down a couple of keyboard buttons, for Acer fn + Esc seems quite common.
Insert the AC adapter.
Turn on using the power button.
Once started up, release the keys held down and hopefully see the laptop shut down after a minute or two.

The hardest part is trying to work out what the BIOS file should be renamed to. You might be lucky and someone has already found it for you. Try to get your crisis recovery worked out before flashing. If it becomes unrecoverable by this method then you will need to find another way to reflash the BIOS chip. Beware, it seems the laptop manufactures would probably charge you for a new mainboard rather than trying to fix the BIOS chip. Work out all your options before hand if something should go wrong and then decide if you still want to go ahead.

hi, i have the same problema as the thread says:
«Bios reading not support on this device»
I have an Ati Mobility radeon hd3470, on a Sony Vaio FW11L

Gpuz z reports

VER010.088.000.025.029579

thanks for your help! bye!

Hello, I have a Laptop Asus x50sl, a video card ati mobility hd3470, bios VER010.077.000.000.000000.
GPU-Z speaks: «bios reading not supported». There is any way to bypass it?

Video rom from v1.15, hope it helps

Hello somebody,
I’ve got the same video card ati mob radeon HD4330 and need to extract the video bios since I cannot do it with GPU-Z.

I’ve got a dell inspiron 1545 laptop with a dell A11 bios, do you think it is possible to extract the rom?

Thank you in advance for your support!

How to take the driver?

I have same problem
The card is a Mobility Radeon HD 4330 (Acer Aspire 5538G)
OS Windows XP 64 bit, Catalyst 9.12, GPU-Z 0.3.8

I have same problem. I want to get the driver for the WINDOWS XP system.
My computer is Acer Aspire 5538G. The video card is MOBILITY RADEON HD 4330. The version is ATI VGA VER011.022.002.002.033474
Please help me, thanks!

Could I ask you guys one favor?
Try using RBE to extract your BIOS, even if you’re using a non-ATI card. Download RBE, run it and click «Acquire/flash…». In the upcoming window uncheck «Load into RBE» in the «Alternative BIOS extraction» box. Then click the «Acquire BIOS…» button and save your BIOS. Please note: This will work with 32-bit versions of windows only.
If you don’t mind attach the BIOS to a post in this thread and don’t forget to tell what kind of video card you have.

Last edited: Feb 4, 2010

X1300 Mobility BIOS Dump

Here is my BIOS dump using RBE.

Notebook Acer 6464
Video: X1300 Mobility

RBE_BIOS_Acer6464_ATIX1300Mobility.zip

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