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alfons37
12th February, 2013, 03:48 PM
Anyone repair pump on nissan patrol 3.0 dci 2000 year?
0445010136
What resistor you use?
And i only have error code p0170
See picture on wire…..
it is common that one need only replace the transistor or it tends to be errors in these pumps?
quinnd
12th February, 2013, 07:17 PM
Anyone repair pump on nissan patrol 3.0 dci 2000 year?
0445010136
What resistor you use?
And i only have error code p0170
See picture on wire…..
it is common that one need only replace the transistor or it tends to be errors in these pumps?
You keep asking about a resistor. What resistor?
quinnd
12th February, 2013, 11:41 PM
Yeah, it’s good software, but only read / erase memory, no output test!
quinnd: just use simple K-line interface! Actually I never try with USB to serial converter, but should be work, you can choose the correct COM port.
Hi znoki. I have com port on my computer, can i use this rather than usb? What pin should k line connect to? I cannot get deniss soft to connect to my pump ecu. I am using com1. Pin 9 is K line? what pin to com port?
alfons37
13th February, 2013, 06:52 PM
Now i solder new irl3803spdf d2-pak but when i try ignition on and my fuse for ecu going destroy. Fuse is 20 yellow.
I’ve cut 4 cables between pump and electronics, if they cables are wrong it may be this error when.
What is wrong?
quinnd
13th February, 2013, 07:26 PM
Now i solder new irl3803spdf d2-pak but when i try ignition on and my fuse for ecu going destroy. Fuse is 20 yellow.
I’ve cut 4 cables between pump and electronics, if they cables are wrong it may be this error when.
What is wrong?
If IRL3803 is the same package then you havn’t connected it correctly, the tab and middle pin is the drain and should be connected to the solenoid
alfons37
13th February, 2013, 08:07 PM
I have work efter this picture
quinnd
13th February, 2013, 08:36 PM
I have work efter this picture
But you have grounded the transistor on top of the pump ecu yes? the tab of D2PAK is common with the middle terminal (drain) so you are essentially shorting the quantity solenoid to ground drawing massive current and blowing your fuse. Isolate the transistor from the aluminium cover of ecu and try again
gopescup
21st February, 2013, 07:50 PM
Have anybody fix the IWZ (rotation sensor) on VP44?
I already change the sensor, and the car it still stop after 80 degrees.
I swap the pump with another and the car is working well….
(bmw 320d with f… VP44) -005
auto421
23rd February, 2013, 12:45 PM
hello, anyone can help me with this fault? y replaces uch, steering wheel controls continuity of the wires. and continues fault the minimum .meddle in fuse 12v, the minimum light, not the switchbox error. algue can give a hint? thank considers
dekipt
24th February, 2013, 09:38 PM
thanks!!!!!!!!
pastynko
26th February, 2013, 05:12 PM
Thanks! Greatly appreciated
Digidigi
27th March, 2013, 04:27 PM
Thanks!!!!!!
omglol
17th April, 2013, 07:47 PM
I got one VP44 in workshop, but I don’t see any visible damage on MOSFET. Can somebody advice me how to test if the MOSFET works OK or not? It is not in short circuit.
znoki
19th April, 2013, 07:39 PM
Did you read the DTC from VP44?
omglol
20th April, 2013, 05:37 PM
No, I don’t have the car, I only have pumps …
mattydr67
20th April, 2013, 05:59 PM
Mate he asked you if you read the DTC from pump?
You don;t need a car to test the pump. You just need the pimp the special moded connector and softwear for diagnostic VP30-44 pumps
The softwear you’ll find here in this forum ( now I don;t remember well where you can find but it is) you need a pump connetor and you need to modify it for diagnostic
If you have OP-COM tool you can use it too.
And you need a power source ( 12V )
And you can read the DTC directlly from pump not from Engine ECU
I hope you understood now
Good luck
mafani
21st April, 2013, 03:36 PM
excuse a question to you but the problem of the fuse came out after replacing the 3803 irl or already was already present before?
omglol
21st April, 2013, 09:51 PM
Mate he asked you if you read the DTC from pump?
You don;t need a car to test the pump. You just need the pimp the special moded connector and softwear for diagnostic VP30-44 pumps
The softwear you’ll find here in this forum ( now I don;t remember well where you can find but it is) you need a pump connetor and you need to modify it for diagnostic
If you have OP-COM tool you can use it too.
And you need a power source ( 12V )
And you can read the DTC directlly from pump not from Engine ECU
I hope you understood now
Good luck
Thanks! I have just read DTCs with OP-COM from 2 faulty VP-30 (Ford TDDi) pumps. Can somebody suggest me what is wrong? Only MOSFET?
Fault codes from pump #1:
90 — Speed signal, error
Present
11 — Unknown DTC
Present
82 — Angle sensor/IWZ system, fault
Present
3 — Unknown DTC
Present
12 — Unknown DTC
Present
9 — Unknown DTC
Present
Fault codes from pump #2:
82 — Angle sensor/IWZ system, fault
Present
10 — Unknown DTC
Present
92 — CAN-BUS, error
Present
255 — Unknown DTC
Present
255 — Unknown DTC
Present
255 — Unknown DTC
Present
255 — Unknown DTC
Present
255 — Unknown DTC
Present
omglol
23rd April, 2013, 03:57 PM
Can somebody advice what those fault codes indicate?
znoki
23rd April, 2013, 06:33 PM
I never used opcom to read VP30 or 44, but they look speed sensor error.
You should download another program from DK, (I think you will find it in this topic) and read with it as well!
omglol
27th April, 2013, 07:33 PM
This is read by VP44 diag software:
Pump #2:
52 Angle sensor/IWZ system. (32)
Unable read fault memory
5C CAN — Bus (sporadic) (28)
omglol
27th April, 2013, 07:38 PM
Pump #1:
5A Engine speed signal (29)
52 Angle sensor/IWZ system. (30)
omglol
27th April, 2013, 08:04 PM
Also strange ID from pump 2 …
pump #2
***729;***729;C063_2.V
61C062_0.P
2 469 947 027
6 402 810 108
pump#1
YS6Q9A543RC
C063_2.V61
C062_0.P64
2 469 947 019
0 281 001 827
znoki
28th April, 2013, 02:16 PM
Put the VP44 back into the engine and try to start it! (crank it!) During check the speed signal on VP44 by oscilloscope (0,1V AC, 0,1s)195463195464
omglol
28th April, 2013, 04:20 PM
I don’t have the car … only pumps.
Do those fault codes mean that transistor is OK?
znoki
28th April, 2013, 06:01 PM
I think yes, the transistor should be OK.
koki
28th April, 2013, 11:45 PM
Thank you cost me my thing but in the end running a very comprehensive post all ok
alfons37
16th May, 2013, 08:49 PM
I fix my honda patrol 3.0 dci with IRFZ44N, it works 2 weeks. Car not answer on pedal Sometime only 1200 rpm. My code p7-7 inj time fb.
Anyone have advice on this problem…
Have i wrong mosfet or maybe valve control is damage???
Min2xx
16th May, 2013, 11:23 PM
IRFZ44N not ok for this car, check posts before and sheets about transistors
pedrodiaz
17th May, 2013, 09:20 AM
Hello,
Please, which transistor did you use?
Can somebody recomend which is the most apropiate transistor for a bmw 320 vp44 pump?
I have several transistor models and I am not 100% sure from which choose:
IRF540
FDB44n25
IRLR2905PBF
IRFZ44
IRLR2905
Thank you very much
What transistor did you use for BMW?
Thanks!!
dany mec
28th June, 2013, 02:47 PM
that would be the best if 2905 has blown transistor in 3 weeks?
dany mec
28th June, 2013, 02:49 PM
that would be the best if 2905 has blown transistor in 3 weeks or what I could make me not die, and that is why they burn those great Refrigerated Transistors made
rfkr
6th July, 2013, 10:55 PM
I use irf3205 and wiring it outside pump on the aluminium cover to be easy to change if it burns.
zoro1
7th July, 2013, 05:23 PM
Mmm,I will give to you joker.After repair mto not burn transistor again i recomend two or in worst case onle tank fuel mixet with FUEL INJECTOR CLEANER.Why?Becose in 90 perc, of my cases valve was stuck and yes with new 2905 /only this i use now / valve is start working again ,but transistor is working in heavy conditions ,valve is not ok -result transistor again ,and if transistor is OK ,can wire inside pump is molted,resolder like transistor and go …
dany mec
8th July, 2013, 02:45 PM
how resisted IRF3205?
dany mec
8th July, 2013, 03:01 PM
how can I effectively clean the valve?
RCS
9th July, 2013, 02:30 PM
Would anyone know the value of this capacitors?
Thanks…
dany mec
12th July, 2013, 06:17 PM
is a capacitor, 3NF
RCS
14th July, 2013, 05:55 PM
Thanks…
It’s fixed now…
angolcar
5th August, 2013, 12:09 PM
can sambady help me: Audi 2.5 VP44 diesel pump which MOSFET need?
it just goes wrong?
Alex79
3rd September, 2013, 11:07 PM
can sambady help me: Audi 2.5 VP44 diesel pump which MOSFET need?
it just goes wrong?
IRL3803 works great with :audi,seat,bmw,ford,nisan,opel,vw and more
angolcar
9th September, 2013, 08:45 PM
Thanks!!!
And this IRLR 2905 PBF ***8203;not good?
Alex79
10th September, 2013, 08:16 AM
Thanks!!!
And this IRLR 2905 PBF ***8203;not good?
IRLR 2905 PBF good for Opel , but not working on Ford
angolcar
11th September, 2013, 06:34 PM
Thanks!!! I used the 2905 for Opel and BMW, and it’s good working.
Alex79
11th September, 2013, 08:23 PM
Thanks!!! I used the 2905 for Opel and BMW, and it’s good working.
On what car did you tested 2905 ?
kisgyermek
25th September, 2013, 09:07 AM
Hi All!
what do you think the irf1405 mosfet. this good or not in the audi a6 vp44 pump?
I changed the mosfet the in the pump but not working.I used irfz44n .Im started the car but not working. After I chek the mosfet and I saw gate wire is broken .
I think I use this fet IRF1405
http://www.redrok.com/MOSFET_IRF1405_55V_169A_5.3mO_Vth4.0_TO-220.pdf
This good or not.
thx.
asf9000
25th September, 2013, 11:56 AM
a friend has a 115hp mondeo that stood running, the problem is that the pump disconnected without removing the battery, so we will have to reset after changing the transistor. currently read failures P1665 and P0216.
I have not seen damaged the pins can be damaged on the original fet burned without sideburns? Also think it could be the position sensor
I read that there are people who repair the ford with IRLR2905PBF (I have it) but another recommended in IRL3803, I test with the 2903 or wait and buy the 3803?
thanks
angolcar
26th September, 2013, 11:15 AM
Hi!
I tested the Opel vectra B 2.0 dti and Astra G 2.0 dti and BMW 320D with 2905 and this good working!
angolcar
26th September, 2013, 11:26 AM
Hi Guys!
Can samebody help me?
I have a wrong Vectra B 2.0 dti diesel pump ecu, i check the 1. transistor but it good!
The 2. transistor wrong. Which transistor need for me? Maybe IRLR2905???
Thanks the help!!!!!
221336
asf9000
26th September, 2013, 03:26 PM
I changed the IRLR2905PBF in the Mondeo, and now it works fine.
Thanks221373
Pepita
26th September, 2013, 03:51 PM
Hi Guys!
Can samebody help me?
I have a wrong Vectra B 2.0 dti diesel pump ecu, i check the 1. transistor but it good!
The 2. transistor wrong. Which transistor need for me? Maybe IRLR2905???
Thanks the help!!!!!
221336
Hi!
Here it is!
221380
Fec001
30th September, 2013, 02:44 PM
I have a zafira here Y20DTH with P1220 DTC. Car won’t start. Which transistor have to be changed and with what part number?
golffwmb
5th October, 2013, 07:13 AM
I have a zafira here Y20DTH with P1220 DTC. Car won’t start. Which transistor have to be changed and with what part number? mechanical problem 100%
asf9000
7th October, 2013, 02:59 PM
I changed the IRLR2905PBF in the Mondeo, and now it works fine.
Thanks221373
sorry
pump failure to 200km
proves again, but with the IRL3803s
av1000
7th October, 2013, 08:55 PM
Use irlr8743pbf end work very good on opel, ford,bmw,audi.
kisgyermek
8th October, 2013, 11:11 PM
Hy guys.
I changed the irfz44n to irf1405. The car started well but don’t have a power.
why ?? what is the problem
angolcar
9th October, 2013, 12:41 PM
Hi Guys!
I have a new problem!
I’ve a B Vectra 2.0 DTI and change the transistor 2 months ago (irlr2905).
The car again dont working, but the transistor is good.
What could be the problem?
PPP007
9th October, 2013, 01:51 PM
Hello.
I have the mistake (DTC P1268) with my AUDI A6 2,5 TDI.
If is the amount plate.
Is the transistor defective?
laac17
11th October, 2013, 03:48 AM
Hello thank you for your help. Would you give me the password please
asf9000
14th October, 2013, 11:52 AM
sorry
pump failure to 200km
proves again, but with the IRL3803s
solder the IRL3803s and the car will not start, P1664 and P1564 fault.
I reviewed the welds and seem right, any ideas?
thanks224554
znoki
17th October, 2013, 08:20 PM
Is it any program or idea, how can I erase the calibration values from the eeprom? It gets full after 3 times recalibration.
ghostridersa
24th October, 2013, 04:33 PM
Good day members of DK
Hoping that some of the members might be able to help me on this one as I work mostly on VAG so dont know Isuzu well. A friend of mine towed his Isuzu 1 ton pick-up into my shop. He was driving and it just cut out.
It is around a 2004 model 3lt turbo diesel and the diesel pump looks like it could be a VP44. Vin number is : ADMTER77D5C312975.
I have heard that these pumps have the immo box in top of the pump. I have check and it does have a black box on the pump.
I have scanned the vehicle and get the following fault codes which I have attached below for you to take a look at.
I have checked the crank sensor and it is not faulty but now everything is pointing to the immo box on the diesel pump. I have seen the repir method for the VP 44 pumps but also see that there are different vp44 pump models which require different kinds of repairs. Can any of the members maybe identify what vp44 pump this is and direct me to the repair method for this pump immo box?
Many thanks in advance
angolcar
27th October, 2013, 03:15 PM
Hello!
How can i reed the eeprom from the vp44 pump ecu?
THX!
omglol
4th November, 2013, 05:58 PM
I have non starter Astra G X20DTL with fault code P1345. Does this mean dead transistor (was changed about 5 years ago or so claims the owner), or dead sensor/pump? The car has 410.000km.
omglol
6th November, 2013, 01:08 AM
Can anyone help me with this one?
fhyeo77
6th November, 2013, 08:08 AM
P1345 means no Crankshaft signal, I would start to look from there…
omglol
6th November, 2013, 11:16 AM
No, it does not mean that. Also, crankshaft signal is present.
omglol
6th November, 2013, 11:18 AM
Description:
P1345 Injection Pump: Camshaft Speed Malfunction C-14
buul
6th November, 2013, 11:26 AM
Description:
P1345 Injection Pump: Camshaft Speed Malfunction C-14
Hi,
Maybe there is problem with the speed sensor connected to the vp44 unit (the one under the electronic unit).
There can be also problem with the valve timing.
Br,
BuuL
miha99
8th November, 2013, 11:16 PM
Can you see cam RPM in live data?
omglol
9th November, 2013, 04:04 PM
Yes, I do see them.
buul
16th November, 2013, 12:29 PM
Maybe one of Hall sensors in speed sensor is faulty and gives you this error. I’d try to replace it for another.
Mario4044
17th November, 2013, 09:01 PM
Change PSG5
Mario4044
17th November, 2013, 09:12 PM
Problem in PSG5
marcloulou
23rd November, 2013, 09:48 PM
I have lose the smd to connect Gate is this a resistor and the value is 200 OHMS
To programme immo i need Pin Code int the Ford COM soft ?
marcloulou
23rd November, 2013, 10:47 PM
Have buy ALUSOL on Ebay for 15?,is special to solder this ;and very easy to solder with this,its Magic !
Alex79
23rd November, 2013, 11:43 PM
Have buy ALUSOL on Ebay for 15€,is special to solder this ;and very easy to solder with this,its Magic !
Hello !
Do you have link ?
marcloulou
4th December, 2013, 01:04 AM
use alusol is SPECIAL for alu soldering ,you found it on ebay for 15? 50g !
With normal soldering you have all chance to break the board from pump driver !
A L U S O L is the SOLUTION !
marcloulou
10th December, 2013, 01:06 PM
have you solution to reprog focus vp44,ford com dont work !
makuku
23rd January, 2014, 08:49 PM
…………………………
i hav? problemas pump fots youhelp…..
I DO…SELL!!!! BUT GOD FORBID ..NOT FOR MONEY…FOR SOMETHING THAT I CAN GET IN RETURN ..!!![/QUOTE]
Now how does that look to you mate …..About sums it up EH!….:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
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cool2503
24th January, 2014, 09:49 AM
Do not use google translate. I don’t understand what you want or need.
cagatay87
24th January, 2014, 11:31 PM
dear friends is this sollution for only faulty mosseft?and is this common fault on this pumps?what is test procedure for this pump with multimeter?i have a faulty pump and this mossfet seems ok.what is your suggestions?
paulserk
2nd February, 2014, 11:22 PM
hi
i repaired mosfet and deleted errors from pump Ecu via kline focom. it is Audi v6 tdi and Ecu said no communication … but i reach pump Ecu via kline. is their another errors than mosfet (it was burned …)
cheers
Paul
cagatay87
3rd February, 2014, 08:13 PM
hi
i repaired mosfet and deleted errors from pump Ecu via kline focom. it is Audi v6 tdi and Ecu said no communication … but i reach pump Ecu via kline. is their another errors than mosfet (it was burned …)
cheers
Paul
check fuses maybe there will be blown fuse of pump supply.and check power socket of pump.
B.regards
paulserk
3rd February, 2014, 10:03 PM
hi….
its all ok. i tried also on the bench with second Ecu…. no communication…. 120ohm on can is also ok. Ecu available over k line … :-
cheers….
nghiaho
4th February, 2014, 10:55 AM
Dear dieseltechnika,
Could you help guide me how to check and reset timing for VP30 pump ? My customer has an engine installed VP30 pump can not start, now he purchased the new pump and installed it by himself but after installing the new pump he still does not start his engine successfully, I suspected my customer did not install the pump correctly so that need to find the timing for the engine and the pump fisrt then carry out further inspection.
Thank you for your help.
houcem80
20th February, 2014, 08:33 PM
hi….
its all ok. i tried also on the bench with second Ecu…. no communication…. 120ohm on can is also ok. Ecu available over k line … :-
cheers….
is it ok for 120 ohm?
manete
3rd March, 2014, 09:03 PM
i guys i have a ford focus 1.8tddi ecu pump and i have trie all the solucions and don?t work.i trie the irlr2905 and the fault codes go off but i dont have aceleration i trie the irfz44 and the fault codes go on p1664 and p1554 also wiht irl3803 the last trie is with fdb44n25 and the fault codes go on again
did some wone have good resoltes for this problem
jolidj
8th March, 2014, 02:08 PM
hi friend. e need to repair vp44 for audi a6 2.5tdi. irf3803 its good for this car????
if possible to now gate ,drain,sourse possition???
thanks at all for help
zoranmadzar
12th March, 2014, 11:31 PM
vp 44
in attach scheme conection transistor in the board pump.
Is it right,or not!
pls answer
which is a material, which is used for soldering
thanks250144
GolfmkI
26th March, 2014, 06:47 PM
I dont like to use this solution…If you read first post it has 5 pictures, here you have working solutions.
Pictures that you uploaded:
One shows an alternative point to solder when you **** up original pcb pad.
The other one it is typical solution…but in my opinion must be less destructive, you Know these pcb boards are very , very sensible. Touch it the least as possible if you want a good work.
If you read at least the 5 first pages you will Know what I am talking.
My advice??? READ ALL 79 pages and you will learn all what you need…..most important thing: THIS IS NOT A 100% REPAIR SOLUTION .
Hope it helped you!!!
GolfmkI
26th March, 2014, 06:57 PM
Hello I have received this module to test. I have wired and I think it is ok, car should have another problem…but it is very curious to see this original transistor has 2 aluminium wires for 1 transistor leg ( totally 3) …..all other ecus I have repaired only have 1 alu wire to each leg of transistor…
One image is clear:
Ref Bosch 0281010888 345167 881151
Any opinion? Its first time I see it!!
ROBERTby2000
27th March, 2014, 09:30 PM
have fixed the problem on newer manufactured pumps! and those with 2 terminals no longer spoil this part;)
maki
28th March, 2014, 04:05 AM
is a capacitor, 3NF
please picture for this capacitor…I have problem with timing solenoid valve,pulses all time or any know why?
Thanks!
janusz21
25th May, 2014, 04:27 PM
hello have a nonruner Audi A6 2.5tdi with VP44 pump, I change mosfet 2905 , car starts but I receive fault code 01268 Quantity adyuster (N146) 37-00 faulty and mosfet get to hot, I also try with 3705z but the fault still remain.
Any idea? measure valve resistance…0,10ohm…its ok?
Don Fatso
30th May, 2014, 03:01 PM
Hi!
This is my first post and I am not responding to the previous message. The issue is this article:
HOW TO DIAGNOSE VP44 FUEL SYSTEM ISSUES
Removed the text due to error. See next message.
Don Fatso
30th May, 2014, 03:04 PM
Hi!
This is my first post and I am not responding to the previous message. The issue is this article:
HOW TO DIAGNOSE VP44 FUEL SYSTEM ISSUES
And I quote:
An interesting fact to note is, IF THE INJECTION PUMP HAS ONLY
BATTERY POWER AND A GROUND, THE ENGINE SHOULD START AND
IDLE, which means it does NOT need any sensor like an APPS, MAP
Sensor, Crankshaft Sensor, Cam Sensor or even an ECM or a PCM to
make it start, AS LONG AS THERE HAS BEEN NO AIR INTRODUCED
INTO THE FUEL SUPPLY LINE! As there is a mechanical lift pump built
into the front of the injection pump the electric lift pump need not run
to make the truck start. This helps us a lot in diagnosing a hard or no
start VP44 equipped truck, doesn?t it!
If you are confident that you have electrical power and fuel to the
injection pump, loosen three injector lines at the valve cover. Crank
the engine a few times for 30 seconds each time, and if fuel only
comes out of one line this indicates a seized rotor.
My understanding of this is: remove the connector from the VP44 control unit and feed ONLY +12V and 0V towards the pump ( not towards the control unit ). Then no sensor of any kind, no immobilizer etc. can stop the pump from injecting fuel provided there is no air in the system and provided the rotor is not stuck nor any other mechanical failure. Wrong timing would stop starting of course.
If this is true, and Ithink it is, there is a simple way of checking whether the pump itself or the control unit is faulty. According to the text the engine will idle in this condition provided the pump is «mechanically ok».
There are quite many other hands on advices in the article so take a look!
vey81
3rd June, 2014, 01:44 AM
Hi guys,
please help me with this.
Audi 2.5tdi, MY 2003.
Control Module Part Number: 8E0 907 401 M
3 Faults Found
01318 — Control Module for Injection Pump (J399)
03-00 — No Signal
01318 — Control Module for Injection Pump (J399)
49-00 — No Communications
17978 — Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
P1570 — 35-00 —
in block 18 read as follows:
Supply voltage injection pump — 0.00V
Supply voltage from ECM — 11.83V.
Fuses O.K., supply and GND on conector is O.K, CAN is 120 ohm, original MOSFET is ok.
Pump doesn’t communicate via k-line [focom, op-com, vr diag], and even after the power is there no sound as the other PSG5.
Is there any chance how to wake up the pump unit?
Thanks for your help
viki300
2nd September, 2014, 09:04 AM
have fixed the problem on newer manufactured pumps! and those with 2 terminals no longer spoil this part;)
so no more transitor or mosfet problem on these 3 wire pump ecus i got one which is dead aswell
viki300
2nd September, 2014, 09:06 AM
Hello I have received this module to test. I have wired and I think it is ok, car should have another problem…but it is very curious to see this original transistor has 2 aluminium wires for 1 transistor leg ( totally 3) …..all other ecus I have repaired only have 1 alu wire to each leg of transistor…
One image is clear:
Ref Bosch 0281010888 345167 881151
Any opinion? Its first time I see it!!
did you find any solution for this i got similar case here
obdsystems
13th September, 2014, 05:43 PM
I’ve repaired 3 VP44 pumps and guess what —
all 3 failed again. Longest lasting a month !!!!
My background is electronics so the job was well done and used Diesel cleaner.
— transistor runs so hot the solder melts and with vibration this suggested repair doesn’t work.
Don’t try this fix guys — it won’t work !!!
simaservis1108
15th September, 2014, 11:30 PM
What kind of solder did you use?
obdsystems
27th September, 2014, 05:11 PM
What kind of solder did you use?
decent lead based. i pray last one i re-fixed will last cos this has damaged my reputation
I know my stuff — i was electronic engineer before doing this
If the actual pump really is going the FET overheats, as always on.
You maybe ok, mabe not, it’s a lottery guys —
Just be aware!!!
simaservis1108
27th September, 2014, 09:24 PM
Use Alusol,lead won’t work,too low melt temperature.
obdsystems
1st October, 2014, 01:28 PM
Use Alusol,lead won’t work,too low melt temperature.
good advice.
One job lasted a month, another 1/2 a day. So something else I’m convinced is going on like the physical pump can be faulty.
I don’t think the electrics is always the cause of original fault.
Last job I’ve given him plenty of cleaner so we shall see
In his cause the connection on top of the FET was bust, so maybe ok
simaservis1108
6th October, 2014, 01:42 AM
Alusol works 100%.
I have repaired many ECM and TCM modules.
IAW5XX ECU,one is going strong 3 years now.
Remi55
30th January, 2015, 10:36 PM
Why not put the Mosfet’s outside the ECU on a big heatsink like done here once before This will absorb the head and should prevent overheating of this type.
Meat-Head
30th January, 2015, 10:40 PM
Why not put the Mosfet’s outside the ECU e.
Emeinen would go round the out side, round the outside.
the Wombles, they go over ground if they can’t go under ground
Alex79
1st February, 2015, 01:26 PM
Alusol works 100%.
I have repaired many ECM and TCM modules.
IAW5XX ECU,one is going strong 3 years now.
Where to find Alusol ?
Johnner
1st February, 2015, 01:36 PM
http://www.stannol.de/en/products/solder-wires/?tx_produktselektor_filter%5Baa_prod%5D=ALU&tx_produktselektor_filter%5Baction%5D=show&tx_produktselektor_filter%5Bcontroller%5D=Product
cole_mcs
3rd February, 2015, 08:41 PM
http://www.stannol.de/en/products/solder-wires/?tx_produktselektor_filter%5Baa_prod%5D=ALU&tx_produktselektor_filter%5Baction%5D=show&tx_produktselektor_filter%5Bcontroller%5D=Product
THANKS JOHNNER , IS VERY GOOD FOR THIS JOB
Alex79
3rd February, 2015, 09:47 PM
http://www.stannol.de/en/products/solder-wires/?tx_produktselektor_filter%5Baa_prod%5D=ALU&tx_produktselektor_filter%5Baction%5D=show&tx_produktselektor_filter%5Bcontroller%5D=Product
Do I need any Flux with this Alusol or any solder paste ?
teerak2uk
12th February, 2015, 02:29 PM
Got a 2001 frontera throwing a P1345 code relating to pump speed is this common on these?
simaservis1108
12th February, 2015, 03:24 PM
Do I need any Flux with this Alusol or any solder paste ?
I use «Topnik Zel».
Best one ever.
Company that makes is them «Termopasty» from Poland.
ohkarol
26th March, 2015, 05:15 PM
which transistor is the best one for bmw 320d’s vp44 ??
Romanky
6th May, 2015, 08:36 PM
I am giving IRL 3705ZPBF
It is HEX -FET 55V 89 A 130 W
bonux
3rd June, 2015, 08:28 PM
offtopic: some years ago ive discovered pdf file with list of compatibility vp44 pumps eg. bosch number pump for vauxhall 0470504003 can be replaced with 0470504009
maybe somebody have seen this list?
thanks in advance!!
kalipso
8th June, 2015, 10:40 PM
Thx..Password pls ?
GolfmkI
11th June, 2015, 05:30 PM
Have anyone repaired VP44 PUMPS WITH 2 CONNECTORS!!
PSG16 TYPE
Supose same similar problem, but no idea of reference, process etc…
Romanky
22nd June, 2015, 09:04 PM
PSG 16
These pumps can not be repaired at least it’s wrong to anyone.
mcwayne
26th July, 2015, 02:06 PM
Having read this article from beginning to end i am still unable to determine how to virginise a pump. I have a used VP44 2,4 DTI tranist which I wish to swop for my busted VP44. Please can you explain in simple terms the procedure of virginising the pump. I understand that expensive Bosch equip is needed to program pump, also the main ECU will adopt the virgin pump if ignition switched on for a period and left to synchronise. but is it just a case of clearing DTC’s /fault codes to put the pump into a virgin state? Any Brains out there?
florianjr
13th September, 2015, 07:42 AM
will this work on a nissan ZD30 VP44 pump?
bonux
13th September, 2015, 08:50 AM
Having read this article from beginning to end i am still unable to determine how to virginise a pump. I have a used VP44 2,4 DTI tranist which I wish to swop for my busted VP44. Please can you explain in simple terms the procedure of virginising the pump. I understand that expensive Bosch equip is needed to program pump, also the main ECU will adopt the virgin pump if ignition switched on for a period and left to synchronise. but is it just a case of clearing DTC’s /fault codes to put the pump into a virgin state? Any Brains out there?
if its ford you can reset security with ford ids tool
teerak2uk
13th September, 2015, 09:36 AM
if its ford you can reset security with ford ids tool
Some snapon have option to reset the pump also
xeonpj
10th November, 2015, 02:32 PM
thanks very much!!!!!
bf1
19th November, 2015, 06:40 PM
for the solder repairs are people completely removed the old leads back to the pads.
I’m having trouble getting the gate pad wet.
If the old gate lead is sound can I attach to this
I haven’t tried alusol yet, it’s expensive stuff.. but maybe necessary for a good job
lysy020
10th December, 2015, 11:31 PM
hi
i have fault p1630 after engine start, vectra b 2.2 2001y pump with one plug. transistor is irlr3705z.
nicolaevlad
7th January, 2016, 12:22 AM
You can try AUIRLR2905
For me works fine
nicolaevlad
7th January, 2016, 12:31 AM
Hello I repair an 015 Opel pump but I still have P1631 with engine stop…I start the engine,erase the error..not coming back but engine no accelerate over 3700rpm.I stop engine put contact back error appear
Any ideea
Thanks
lhcenbolt
7th January, 2016, 09:03 PM
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ULYSSE77731
8th January, 2016, 05:07 PM
…………………………
Thanks i test solution…good
sofix
14th January, 2016, 09:15 AM
Have anyone repaired VP44 PUMPS WITH 2 CONNECTORS!!
PSG16 TYPE
Supose same similar problem, but no idea of reference, process etc…
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bf1
18th January, 2016, 02:22 AM
Has anyone used a pwm motor controllerto move the vp30 metering solenoid.
If so what frequency works best.
For the purpose of starting engine andtesting , prior to connecting the repaired edc solenoid wires
tetex255
27th February, 2016, 10:19 PM
Je vais faire un tutot de test pour les VP44. Wait& see
Pali33
2nd March, 2016, 04:02 PM
could some one tell me, which transistor 100% works on VP30 (Ford)?
Many thanks in advance.
maki
9th March, 2016, 02:10 PM
Any solved problem when advance solenoid all time pulsed??
metalticket
9th March, 2016, 06:30 PM
hello,
i have some problem here with an Astra 2.0dti 100hsp, i have failed to repair my original ecu from a 0470 504 011 pump, i have managed to get a working pump but it is a 0470 504 004 and swaped the ecu ( i did not change my solenoids)
i have intalled it and i get P1630 fault code
is there any solution to make it work ? or do i have to get a 011 ecu to make the car work again.
or maybe i have to rewrite something in the 004 ecu ?
thank you very much
Karnaugh
26th March, 2016, 11:47 AM
Hi! I’m trying to fix my PSG5 module, to save 1200€…. I expect this help me. Thanks!
budG60
6th April, 2016, 07:21 PM
Is there a way to test the transistor which typically fails inside the psg5 vp44 module of an Audi A4 2.5tdi?
The car first had start problems sometimes and now does not start at all anymore. It seems there is a problem with the module. I have opened the module, but the FET in the corner seems to be fine. Or should I just fit a new MOSFET?
metalticket
8th April, 2016, 04:04 PM
hello budG60, you can test the original FET with a multimeter on the transistor testing position, you schould never have a short circuit or infinite value between the drain, source and gate of the mosfet, if it is ok then your module is fine.
maybe you have a mechanical issue like i’ve discovered today i have on my car, the HP solenoid ( the one between the injector output) is completely receovered inside with a strange thing,
i have to change the entire pump now.368565368566
SvenR1
8th April, 2016, 05:40 PM
Hi, look this, if its helpful give thanks:)
https://mega.nz/#!4oF3mCAI!-xsBO6wwMeAxxO6dLly4EHyISyHldI6TLd5PABs8TPA
aldo100
12th April, 2016, 07:36 AM
Hello, i have a vectra b x20dth with 1220 error code that i have read with op.com fw 1.45. Looking at live data there is a big gap between desired and actual injection time angle. So i would like to read the code stored in the pump’s ECU but how to do it? my op -com have the special function for psg5 but it don’t work if i connect op-com to the obd2 socket. (i have psg5 pump, the one with only one connector. Thasnk you for any help.
metalticket
13th April, 2016, 08:34 AM
hello, i’m back for my feedback
i have posted some picture before, it was my solenoid who was melt, so the pump was dead because of it and i was getting P1630 fault code : low gasoil pressure, i have changed this solenoid and now my car is on the road again
if you have P1630 fault code take a look to this solenoid !
kosarix
16th April, 2016, 09:59 AM
Hi have -02 transit with vp30. Got codes p1664 and p1564. Forscan odb scanner reported also from FIP module (fuel injection pump) status4 error (angle of rotation sensor)
Is there a way to test the angle of rotation sensor (IWZ was it?) With multimeter or oscilloscope?
Trying to confirm if its faulty before digging in to ecm to check for the transistor…
and can i get the password also..
metalticket
16th April, 2016, 05:45 PM
hello, if you are talking about the rotation sensor inside the pump you can check the value with multimeter you should get this:
pin 1 is the the first from down
you will get
pin1>pin2 =180ohme
pin1>pin3 and PIN1>pin4 = 130ohme
you can have a litte difference.
hope this will help you
dorcky
24th April, 2016, 07:02 PM
If I replace MOSFET for fuel quantity solenoid valve (IRFZ44), than how can I test VP44 on bench?
I want to do output test for fuel quantity solenoid valve, want to test the replaced circuit without the car.
I think we can do bench test on VP44 only with right CAN commands! I`m on a working tool to sniff the data send between VP pump and ECU. After that, need to decode the commands sent from ECU to VP to energize solenoids.
BR!
GolfmkI
26th April, 2016, 11:37 AM
Hello I perhaps need some help /experience
Car is Audi A6 2.5TDI
Dont start
No errors on car
Only error found directly in PSG5 Ecu ( with dennis software)
It says :
«57 Timing device control. Permanent control deviation (30)»
What does it really mean???? I suposse error is repeated for 30 times?
I repeat car has no errors, module seems good….
Even Ive opened and found it is the new one version ( Original Fet has been modified with 3 wires, if you remember older Vp44 modules has only 2 wires). I have never found one of these in bad condition.
So I really dont Know where is the problem…
Any little help will be appreciated.
metalticket
27th April, 2016, 10:37 PM
hello, did you controled your rotation sensor ? i gave the way to controle it 2 posts above this one.
i can not help you more sorry
nt71adu
4th May, 2016, 08:13 PM
Hello! VP 44 BMW 520d fault currently present 43 [067] Control module injection pump and 46 [070] Control unit injection pump (comunication).
Faulty start. Transistor ILRL 2905 PBF is no good.
What kind of transistor i need? Thanks!
stephensworld
5th May, 2016, 06:44 PM
Hi all,
I have a Audi 2,5 TDI 2001 allroad quattro.
The old PSG5 has been destroyed because of short circuit.
I bought a used one in ebay but I can’t start motor and have the following errors:
2 Errors found:
01318 — Steuerger?t f?r Einspritzpumpe (J399)
37-00 — defekt
01318 — Steuerger?t f?r Einspritzpumpe (J399)
49-00 — keine Kommunikation
Block 18 shows the following values
19:35:17 Block 018: Einspritzpumpe
0.00 V Voltage (Injection pump
11.55 V Voltage (Motorsteuerger?t)
00000000 Status Injection pump
0000 Impulsauswertung Motordrehzahl
Maybe someone could help me. What could be the reason for the 0.00V on injection pump.
Thank you very much.
stephensworld
CoriniSrr
12th May, 2016, 12:25 AM
hello all !!!! im new here….
sebxtreme
13th May, 2016, 06:36 AM
hi, same problem with one VP29 , i’ve change the control module entirely, and now it’s run good again, but i’ll repair the old electronic module 2 mosfet are dead inside….
gabrielbr
23rd June, 2016, 02:57 AM
Very good, thank you
Ps3slim
27th June, 2016, 04:35 PM
There is some very goo info here, thank you very much. I have a question though.. What happens if the PSG5 is not coded to the car? what are the symptoms?
ULYSSE77731
29th June, 2016, 08:42 PM
Hello all PSG5 yes the code module for a vehicle with immobilizer code.
So even a new module must be recoded.
before switching module or transistor think has verify that the solenoid stop son and pressure regulator are not touching among them because every time I exchange an electronic unit had grid due to the short circuit the son of solenoid valves were stripped .
n1cky1809
4th July, 2016, 03:18 PM
Hello, Does anyone have any information about virginizing using the carprog software? KTS is rather expensive for what id use it for. Cheers.
raker77
13th July, 2016, 01:05 AM
Hi thank you all for this great help.
This electronic module belongs to a MG ZS the transistro has two wire
Curious.
Will it be harder to burn?
386439
stevebbb
15th July, 2016, 06:57 PM
It depends on mileage !
386972
seba6772
19th August, 2016, 09:28 AM
Hi can You help me with soldering wiring and part number for repair my pump ecu it’s opel 0281011055
Thanks.
irlr2905
19th August, 2016, 08:31 PM
no more vp44…like ever
seba6772
30th August, 2016, 06:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STTNDXWEl38
fotisi
4th September, 2016, 04:27 PM
Hi Guys, I am new to the this very informative forum. I have a ford focus tddi with psg5 vp30 pump. My car idle erratically and sometimes refused to start.
Do you know where to look about it?
Regards,
CostyOK
17th September, 2016, 09:23 PM
transistor soldering on that radiator ? i mean galvanic contact ?
irlr2905
20th September, 2016, 04:35 AM
Hey,
Please can someone could sell me some Alusol. I have it in my local electronic shop, but they only sell 500g. I have looked it everywhere in ebay and etc. I would pay 15 euros for 50g but 65 euros for 500g….don’t need that much.
Kind Regards
Matthiuk
17th October, 2016, 02:11 AM
Hello
please i just need value of capacitor in the picture i join it’s very important even if it will not fix i need to put new for the owner maybe someone have posibility to mesure them best would be diagram.
thanks
krissr114
15th November, 2016, 07:12 AM
does anyone know where the pin 7 to write and how to do it?
krissr114
17th November, 2016, 09:45 PM
410608
i read eeprom 24c02. does anyone know how to change software ?
for example pump 0470504003 > 0470504016?
stevebbb
19th November, 2016, 09:54 AM
impossible to change the software !
krissr114
20th November, 2016, 10:52 PM
possible!! in poland copy yours software and write to «new» other (old) control unit.
krissr114
20th November, 2016, 10:53 PM
possible!! in poland copy yours software and write to «new» other (old) control unit and clean calibration field.
blackand
19th December, 2016, 10:39 PM
I have vp44 electronic module failing.
Thanx this forum thread
becool
27th December, 2016, 03:50 PM
hi please can use transistor LR2908 on vp30 thanks
ilen
17th January, 2017, 11:13 PM
Hello,
on Opel burnt electronics punp VP44….I replaced the transistor ( irlr2905 )…. car now starts, but reported failure P1630 CRITICAL SYSTEM MALFUNCTION 1…???
can anyone help me about this error…?
Thenxx…
sofix
20th January, 2017, 10:06 AM
422737vp44 rpm sensor solution
miloszeeek
21st January, 2017, 10:09 PM
I’ve got the same problem as ilen, after replacing transistor to IRLR2905, i’ve got error P1630 — critical system malfunction 1, after erasing car throwing error due first second of crancking. Engine won’t start.
X22DTH Checking Procedure says: «The current consumption of the injection fuel quantity solenoid valve is out of range»
By-passing the current sense resistor with wire from gnd pin to transistor’s source gives nothing.
H7 bulb soldered to solenoid valve wires flashes due cranking, with the same error. There’s no error code only when the solenoid valve isn’t connected to PSG5 unit.
Can someone help?
Oh, and i forgot, the pump is buzzing all the time when ignition is on, and buzzing for about one second when it powered only by pin 6 and 7, car ecu is disconected.
Matttes
23rd January, 2017, 10:43 PM
Hi all,
I have on the desk one repaired PSG5 from other people.
Worked few times ok, but now I can?t connect on the desk directly via OPCOM. One needle from Mosfet has bad contact to PCB. When I solder it back, or replace transistor and resolder back. Is this solution for diag issue?Many thanks for information.
BR Matttes
ULYSSE77731
28th January, 2017, 07:55 AM
Hello,
Care must be taken that the wires of the pressure sensor are not stripped and touch the outside of the pump.
av1000
15th February, 2017, 02:26 PM
428831 hello my friends
someone change the 5v stab. end resolve P1651- communication lost ECU-pump ?
Osvaldo
15th February, 2017, 03:00 PM
With this error i solve change tantalium solidstate yellow cap
Enviado desde mi SM-J200M mediante Tapatalk
miloszeeek
19th February, 2017, 07:52 PM
428831 hello my friends
someone change the 5v stab. end resolve P1651- communication lost ECU-pump ?
429921
here is changed voltage regulator 7805 and transistor. This is not my picture, i found it on the web, maybe on this forum:)
For my previous problem with my car, with p1630 — critical system malfunction error, i bought another vp44 pump and change the psg5 unit with fuel metering solenoid valve. Now car works fine, starts like a charm.
my pump was 0470504009, psg number 0281 001 827
new pump was 0470504004, the same psg number
Regards for all!!
dieselDoctor
21st February, 2017, 01:13 AM
irlr2905 transistor if you want can sen video but must good soldering because is it quicly hot! end burning again
dieselDoctor
21st February, 2017, 01:17 AM
if you need i have all of vp pumps new used or parts
disjoint
4th March, 2017, 03:01 PM
Hi All,
My local garage has asked me to have a look a Transit 2.4 (2003) which died suddenly on the motorway.
The fault codes are:
P1664 — injection pump control module malfunction.
P1564 — injection pump control module requesting reduced fuelling.
Looking under the bonnet it looks like the Bosch VP44 being discussed in this thread.
My questions to you are:
1. In your experience do the fault codes above suggest a EDC fault rather than a mechanical fault ?
2. Is the LR2905Z a suitable replacement for the original device ?
3. The fet and/or 5Vreg replacement procedures outlined in this thread are interesting, I have the relevant soldering equipment and skills to solder these devices to the substrate but there have been quite a few references to potting these devices using a thermally conductive adhesive. Which is the preferred method ?
With over 40 yrs experience of soldering this fixing method is second nature but my thoughts are «why did the OEM use welded aluminium rather than solder ?» Operating temperature comes to mind !
I can see that using a thermally conductive adhesive could give an advantage over solder if potted correctly ! I have no experience of this method (long term reliability).
This method goes against my training and gut feeling ( a replacement component must itself be able to be replaced ! ) as most power devices use the tab as an electrical conductor as well as heat dissipation, an epoxy glue as fixing method seems alien.
Then again back in the day these new «transistor devices» seemed alien to me as an apprentice TV engineer, what’s wrong with valves? You could watch BBC1 or ITV and heat your house !!!!!!!!
Your thoughts and/or advice would be appreciated.
Regards to all.
elektronicaar
7th March, 2017, 09:30 PM
Hi everyone, i have problem with red wire of ressistor on this picture. I cant solder on this place. Is there another solution or new ecu? I tried everything433966
Partsauto
21st March, 2017, 04:52 PM
Good afternoon,
I have a vp44 pump that replaces the transistor, it went well only that it now marks breakdown in the advance sensor and does not mark fuel temperature and does not accelerate.
What do you advise to do?
miloszeeek
28th March, 2017, 08:25 PM
Good afternoon,
I have a vp44 pump that replaces the transistor, it went well only that it now marks breakdown in the advance sensor and does not mark fuel temperature and does not accelerate.
What do you advise to do?
Replace the sensor with new one.
DrooLTU
2nd April, 2017, 05:51 PM
Hey guys, I just replaced burnt transistor but now I have 01318 16-00 Signal outside specifications two lines of same fault on 2002 audi a4 b6 2.5 v6 tdi. Does this mean I killed the board while repairing? I can’t find the answer to this nowhere on the internet. Someone asked here on page 50-ish and got no response. Also, when removing the ECU I noticed that part of the isolation on solenoid wires was gone and they might’ve shorted out or was this caused by the bad transistor? Also, when connecting the plug to the pump while on ignition it makes this fast clicking sound for a second or so. Is this normal?
BoNzOtM
8th April, 2017, 08:02 PM
thank you for this thread
afterhours
9th April, 2017, 10:08 PM
thank you very much
fartib
18th May, 2017, 09:52 AM
Hi, trying to help a colleague with the repair of the VP44 injection pump computer, having some knowledge and equipment in the electronics, following the documentation, I replaced the transistor with a LR2905 that I fixed with the Arctic Silver thermal conductor. The computer was mounted on the pump, the car started relatively easy, stopped after 5 minutes. He did not want to start. Taking the pump calculator checked, the transistor LR2905 burnt as well as the pin 2 (common with S transistor) and the PCB, array / interrupted. Please, if anyone knows what the cause is and possibly the solution. Thank you!
janusz21
18th May, 2017, 10:03 AM
Bad technology repair only soldering transistor no arctic silver give someone who fixes it because for a moment psg5 will be death
Aldi1
20th May, 2017, 08:51 PM
Hi guys, my first post here!
First of all thanks to all guys who have contributed in this forum. ������
To the problem now
I am in big trouble with a transistor, I can’t solder it on the pcb of the pump. Please I need some guidance on how to solder it. PLEASE HELP!!!
I will try to put some pics.
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davor82
21st May, 2017, 08:40 PM
Hello,
i need help with repair, i burn 2 points .
Here is the link of my picture … https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-0cq-uxmcPUbE1Tck4zaTgwMG8
Please help , who have experiences with repairing and problem like my .
i have fault «No communication and RPM of pump «
thanks
best regards,
davor
DiagExpert
29th June, 2017, 07:25 PM
hello i have repaired a VP44 ECU from a Ford Transit i replaced the burned transistor and now the car does not accelarate well i have these fault codes
P1664 FIP Malfunction
P1564 FIP Reguesting Reduced Fuelling Mode
these fault codes i have also before i repaired the ECU but the car was not starting at all, if anyone can help me.
Thx.
abdulsattar
2nd July, 2017, 12:32 PM
Hi guys,
i have vp44 Herr in my table, Problem is that this little 1 x 1 mm pad where we have to solder on is gone. Is there any other spot wie can solder our wire in instead? Thanks
abdulsattar
2nd July, 2017, 12:52 PM
Are you guys using alusol or standard sn60 pb40 solder? Its really hard to solder
DiagExpert
6th July, 2017, 08:16 PM
please anyone ???
DiagExpert
6th July, 2017, 08:17 PM
Are you guys using alusol or standard sn60 pb40 solder? Its really hard to solder
i’m using standard solder no alusol.
DiagExpert
25th July, 2017, 09:42 PM
hello to all DK experts i have this Ford Transit with no start i have repaired the VP44 ECU with changing the burned transistor and the car started ok after the repair but the car does not accellerate well on the road and the faults in VP44 ECU is 52 angle sensor/iwz system i have replaced also the sensor in the pump with new one, now i opened again the ECU and i see this stuff in the voltage regulator inside the red circle that i have point i can’t understand what is that because before the repair there wasn’t maybe is from temperature in engine ECU i have these fault codes
P1664 Fip Malufunction
P1564 Requesting Reduced Fuelling Mode
if anyone has an idea what is going on with this car.
Regards
abdulsattar
27th July, 2017, 09:33 AM
Does anybody know how to get the vp44 back to Top dead centre again
im stuck with this any help will be highly appreciated
vladanr
27th July, 2017, 12:58 PM
you can do it with comparator ,on place where is pump blockade ,put comparator and rotate pump till 0.8mm
abdulsattar
28th July, 2017, 12:26 AM
Thanks for your reply, Please explain more. Which tool is required and where do we have to put it? Thanks friend
dunkler
31st July, 2017, 05:59 PM
Hi DK
I have a VP44 pump from a E46 320d, replaced burned transitor with IRLR2905, car started fine but died second day. My first guess is overheated transistor, although I used artic silver thermal compound. Is there a way to get a better cooling? Thermal adhesive is better? Thanks
LE: Solved!
vey81
3rd October, 2017, 10:19 AM
Hi guys,
i have vp44 Herr in my table, Problem is that this little 1 x 1 mm pad where we have to solder on is gone. Is there any other spot wie can solder our wire in instead? Thanks
Hi mate
good luck
TR0UBLESH00TER
6th October, 2017, 07:58 PM
I have one here but as i have mesured MOsfet is ok,not have short between source and derain or some resistance but i have strange resistance 91R between two pin on other side.
Fault in this case is voltage regulator ,replaced with 78S05 (1.5 amps) ,maybe an ordinary 7805 will work too ,current is about 0.17 amps
TR0UBLESH00TER
20th October, 2017, 11:50 PM
Have another with timing valve being actuated all the time even no rpm from engine , any ideea ?
mestebanf
21st October, 2017, 03:46 AM
Very Goods!!!
nikte
6th November, 2017, 06:55 PM
Should i remove pump or just psg I do not think it’s necessary to take out the whole pump?
BMW 320D
nikte
7th November, 2017, 11:26 AM
Hi DK
I have a VP44 pump from a E46 320d, replaced burned transitor with IRLR2905, car started fine but died second day. My first guess is overheated transistor, although I used artic silver thermal compound. Is there a way to get a better cooling? Thermal adhesive is better? Thanks
LE: Solved!
How did you solve problem and what was the problem?
Tawe
22nd November, 2017, 12:59 AM
Hi guys,
please help me with this.
Audi 2.5tdi, MY 2003.
Control Module Part Number: 8E0 907 401 M
3 Faults Found
01318 — Control Module for Injection Pump (J399)
03-00 — No Signal
01318 — Control Module for Injection Pump (J399)
49-00 — No Communications
17978 — Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
P1570 — 35-00 —
in block 18 read as follows:
Supply voltage injection pump — 0.00V
Supply voltage from ECM — 11.83V.
Fuses O.K., supply and GND on conector is O.K, CAN is 120 ohm, original MOSFET is ok.
Pump doesn’t communicate via k-line [focom, op-com, vr diag], and even after the power is there no sound as the other PSG5.
Is there any chance how to wake up the pump unit?
Thanks for your help
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Anyway, I have exactly the same problem as you had, can you tell me how you solved it?
stevan
2nd December, 2017, 02:12 PM
Anybody know where this lead from RPM goes?
Pepita
3rd December, 2017, 08:56 PM
I measured every lead, I did not find a direct pin.
stevan
3rd December, 2017, 08:57 PM
I measured every lead, I did not find a direct pin.I found only 700R to GND
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donkicaj
30th December, 2017, 10:08 PM
Hi,
my vp44 has the error p1335. Hall sensor is new, but the engine does not start. the driver is already on the table but I have no ideas
thanks
chiptuningB
30th December, 2017, 11:03 PM
495989Lift the capacitor up. Marked in yellow. And solder again.
vey81
14th January, 2018, 01:25 PM
Hi guys,
What’s the best transistor for OPEL X17DTL, 0 281 001 371, 0470 004 003 ?
I have this 2905, 3803, 44n25, 3705, 3205.
Thanks
ciupercaflorin
23rd January, 2018, 10:33 PM
hello, i have a bmw 320d with vp44 pump. I replaced the transistor with IRLR 2905 PBF and now i get inpa error «Pump controll unit-EEPROM or ADC defect» . attached you have a picture of the way i soldered IRLR2905PBF. i used this method :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=133qU9sMatA&lc=UgyNoEfEFS0uDh8eTKR4AaABAg. 8WWeJ-tjdmp8WWs2h8RrrH.
What could be the problem? is this the correct transistor or shoul i use AUIRLR2905Z or IRLR3705Z ?
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anjo008
23rd January, 2018, 10:52 PM
We send the VP44 electronic and the people repair like this (picture)
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paulocarvalhas
30th January, 2018, 03:12 PM
Hello tanks
dorcky
2nd February, 2018, 06:31 PM
We send the VP44 electronic and the people repair like this (picture)
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#anjo008 How do you remove that caps from ceramic board? They aren`t just solder, they are fixed with epoxy aswell.
Thank`s
anjo008
19th February, 2018, 11:00 PM
#anjo008 How do you remove that caps from ceramic board? They aren`t just solder, they are fixed with epoxy aswell.
Thank`s
Good question. This work was from my dealer… I try with other that I have broken and I say something….
Sorry.
We continue learning…..
anjo008
24th February, 2018, 04:20 PM
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Anyone know if I need replace the transistor?
Or only soldering…
denzl
24th February, 2018, 04:30 PM
Replace transistor!
anjo008
24th February, 2018, 07:51 PM
IRLR 2905, IRLR 3110 or IRFZ44?
denzl
24th February, 2018, 11:41 PM
Only IRLR2905
anjo008
27th February, 2018, 09:52 PM
Soldering with Sn60Pb40 is it good? Or I need special product?
denzl
28th February, 2018, 11:33 PM
Yes good…I can help you but write to me for private
dorcky
4th April, 2018, 08:55 PM
Anyone knows where this terminal goes ? Thx!
dynasat
21st May, 2018, 11:09 AM
I damaged the pad where the drain connects to the circuit board, anyone know an alternative conection point?
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Does anyone know what the drain terminal connects to on the circuit board pictured? A flyback diode perhaps?
What about the other drain connection pin on the bottom right corner? Is this one of the solenoid leads? Which is the other solenoid lead?
Is there a schematic or circuit diagram available so I can better understand this circuit?
dynasat
23rd May, 2018, 02:03 AM
I cannot see any reason for the mosfet drain to be connected to the circuit board, other than for transient protection of the mosfet. Because I can’t solder to the PCB drain pad, I propose to fit my own protection zener diodes as pictured. Any thoughts on this?
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Is there any information showing points where the solenoid wires connect to the PSG? I’d rather not interfere with the insulation on the solenoid wires to find out.
stevebbb
24th May, 2018, 08:22 PM
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dynasat
26th May, 2018, 11:51 PM
Thanks stevebbb, much appreciated!
May I ask how you worked this out? Do you have a schematic diagram, or have you made your own measurements?
dynasat
29th May, 2018, 04:17 AM
I measure these points as connected in blue:
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I believe these are the source (-ve) connection.
I need a connection to the small pad above in red for the drain. Am I looking at this somehow wrong?
stevebbb
29th May, 2018, 07:02 AM
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sorry for the mistake…
dynasat
2nd June, 2018, 03:31 AM
Thanks stevebbb for the correction.
Despite being an electronics engineer, I’m struggling to solder to these virtually microscopic components and pads. Do you happen to know whether there’s anything else connected to this node between the drain and capacitor?
I think I made a mistake trying to do this leaving the unit in the car. I’m contemplating instead soldering a 1nF capacitor between the source and drain, but wondering if there’s anything else connected here, or whether this point may be involved with the PSG pin 5 MAB signal feedback to the ECU.
I’m getting close to the point of throwing in the towel and buying a new pump.
stevebbb
3rd June, 2018, 09:48 PM
I think it’s just a capacitor to ground, nothing else connected.
geekshow2
12th July, 2018, 12:20 AM
Hi all, I have a dead short on pins 6 & 7 (Gnd and +12v) on my Transit Connect’s VP30. Could the fault still lie with the transistor? I have 2 IRLR2905 sitting waiting here. No visual indications anything else has gone…
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TR0UBLESH00TER
12th July, 2018, 07:10 AM
If this photo is the real unit and there is a short between 6 and 7 then transistor is out of the question ,maybe 5 volts regulator which is on the next corner ( reverse clock counting ) .Or you can use a regulated voltage supply and inject 1,2 or more amps and watch for heating components ,maybe a cap is shorted …
geekshow2
12th July, 2018, 02:43 PM
If this photo is the real unit and there is a short between 6 and 7 then transistor is out of the question ,maybe 5 volts regulator which is on the next corner ( reverse clock counting ) .Or you can use a regulated voltage supply and inject 1,2 or more amps and watch for heating components ,maybe a cap is shorted …
Thanks Tr0ublesh00ter, I followed the ‘repair vp 44 pump’ guide and found the 5v regulator also to be faulty (dead short +12v to ground). That’s out of the circuit now, but there’s still only <1k resistance between +12v and ground, and I seem to see a dead short between +5v and ground. I suspect you’re right, and a downstream cap has failed. At this rate, it’s maybe not worth fixing, but at least I’m learning….
The photo is my actual unit, yes.
Update: I’ve just removed every component with a short off the board and there’s still a dead short on the 5V line. I think it’s dead
TR0UBLESH00TER
17th July, 2018, 09:19 PM
Anyone use scope and current clamp to check valves conditions ?
molnarp84
22nd July, 2018, 10:20 PM
Hello!
I need the Mosfet small PCB alternaive point, the link is dead.
Thanks!
faza952
23rd July, 2018, 10:30 PM
Hello, I’m sorry but I have a different kind of question
where is the fuel temperature sensor located in VP44?
stevebbb
24th July, 2018, 07:06 AM
here:
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molnarp84
4th August, 2018, 09:22 AM
Thanks !
molnarp84
4th August, 2018, 09:24 AM
I changed MOSFET irlr2905 in astra G y20dth and i have P1560 (pump system voltage) What is the problem?
geszbela
13th August, 2018, 02:35 PM
Do you know which one is the best transistor?????
marcelo2112
15th August, 2018, 01:18 PM
very good information, it still does not work.
Dirtworks2
21st August, 2018, 01:27 PM
Has anyone honestly been able to
perform a lasting VP44 transistor
repair? Looks like some tricky soldering, lots of uncertainty as to what type transistor to use, questions as to what type transistor Bosch used originally and wether calibration is required after? Best way to secure for required heat sink? I�m in Canada,
new to the forum with a Dodge truck and melted transistor wire to
fuel valve drive transistor. Read tons, watched all the videos but seems nobody getting lasting repair and then discusssion ends??? I understand these pumps are much more common in Europe. Sure be great to hear a good success story from someone not trying to sell something.
Cheers, Gary
Dirtworks2
21st August, 2018, 01:32 PM
Transistor in the way. Guess I�ll do my best as an Electronic Technologist with lots of soldering experience. I hope to post some good news.
Dirtworks2
21st August, 2018, 01:32 PM
Sorry, meant to say transistor �on�
way.
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Мой ТНВД умер, или я его убил
, в общем не важно.
Приехал восстановленный, та же серия, буквы те же, мозги новые, но вот проблема — ошибка «блокирован блок управления двигателем», машина заводится и сразу глохнет. Имея VAG-Commander (VAG-TACHO) вместе с VAG-COM можно это дело исправить и без оффициалов. Можно обойтись одним шнуром, KKL-USB.
Решил пойти по этому пути, т.к. мозги перекидывать не хотел ~ 50$, оффициалы обрадовали компьютерной диагностикой и затем, если все ОК и без ошибок, по выделенному каналу с Германией привязывают ТНВД к иммо ~ 100$ … А местные мастера загилили цену в 200$ …
PS: Все-таки восстановил мой родной ТНВД и процедуру пришлось проводить еще раз. Если вы отправляли насос на восстановление и мозги менялись (что, кстати, случилось в моем случае) — нужно привязывать.Использую VAG-Commander (как установить »драйвера« на Win7 можно глянуть на ютубе, программка должна идти в комплекте с кабелем на диске, но можно и скачать).
Итак. Перманентный способ. Шнурок подключен, зажигание включено, запускаем VAG-Commander.
1. Выбираем тип соединения «K-Line», затем «Комбинация приборов Иммобилайзер»2. Выбираем тип нашего Иммо (VDO) и нажимаем «Read»
3. Думает программа долго, поэтому нужно будет минутку подождать. Процесс «чтения» отображается снизу (Reading adress: blablabla). Затем в окошке «Login» получаем наш логин к иммобилайзеру.
Выключаем программку, вытаскиваем шнур, вставляем ВАГ-КОМ.
4. Выбираем «Блок управления» -> «01 Электроника двигателя». Нажимаем «11 Вход», вводим полученный ранее логин. При этом, если логин четырехзначный, дописываем перед ним нолик. .
5. Далее заходим в «10 Адаптация», выбираем 50-й канал
Если все сделали правильно, все будет так, как на скрине ниже.6. Вводим в поле «Новое значение» логин, нажимаем «Тест», видим кусок номера кузова и еще что-то. Нажимаем «Сохранить».
7. Закрываем Ваг-Ком, выключаем зажигание. Ждем 1 минуту. Заводим машинку, чтобы подтвердить наше желание кататься именно на этом ТНВД. После этого можно постирать ошибки. На этом все.
AHTUNG!!1 Есть временный способ «проверить» без прошивки имо бу-шный либо новый насос, рабочий ли он следующим способом: я обалдел, когда узнал. если не прошивать тнвд, а просто заменить родной на другой насос, рядом положить родной с подключенной на него фишкой. выставить шкива обеих тнвд в одинаковом положении. включить зажигание. снять фишку с родного тнвд и подсоединить к новому. завести машину. profit. Правда схема работает до первой остановки двигателя — дальше опять нужно так же играться.
Т.е. покататься можно, проверить все, протестировать, логи снять … Не привязывая. Мозги должны быть по номеру такие же.
Информация не проверенная и не подтвержденная, но, возможно, чревато выходом из строя одного, двух или четырех насосов. Но я пробовал раз 5 — работает. Так что действуем на свой страх и риск.
Дополняю из этой же темы, чтоб не спрашивали одно и то же:
Я использовал 2 шнурка, т.к. VCDS 10.6 работает по OBDII, логин им не прочитать. Второй мой шнурок — VAG K+CAN 1.4 не захотел работать с программой VCDS.
Надеюсь, хоть кому-то ФАК будет полезным. Другие программы для шнурков можно глянуть в этом сообщении.
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А то хоть у меня и не очень сдохший ТНВД, но сильно пожилой — тоже хочу его поменять. Однако очковал из-за привязки. Теперь буду брать и привязывать. -
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Сегодня попробую немного другой софт (VAG Eeprom, VP-44 tester …), в т.ч. и более старые версии Коммандера, Тахо, и прочую белиберду.
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Вобщем поигрался я сегодня со шнурком (шнурки ВАСЯ диагност 10.6, VAG K+Can 3.6, драйвера на васю родные, на к+кэн драйвера левые w7 х64):
Сarport-diagnostics.com Программа нашла шнурок K+Can, но работать с ним отказалась. Хотя на сайте написано, что поддерживается более старая его версия K+CAN 1.4Все 3 программы не увидели мой шнурок, но лежат в архивах на Mediafire.comVAG Commander более старых версий 4.x, 5.x. — скачал, но забыл
VIS 2.0 (Vag Info System) — оказалась битаяОдин раз надыбал обалденный буржуйский сайт по диагностике, а тогда шнурков не было да и закрыл его… Найти не могу. Нашел архив — тут, с множеством прог, тоже битый. Попробую скачать где-нибудь еще.
Залил всё, что нашел на Mediafire.com
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Супер у знакомого такая же проблема заводиться и глохнет поменял тнвд ! автору зачет!
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Мне сказали, что из-за солярки + крутили насухую насосу полная ж.
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требуется помощь по вопросу . подскажите чо искать. в командере нажима чтение и ничего не происходит . а топливный насос зараза жужжит при выключеном зажигании
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продолжение . логин прочитал , прописался . а насос продолжает жужжать . зажигание выключаешь а он продолжает жужжать . приходится скидывать клемму что бы он заткнулся . чо делать то ?!!!
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именно так всё и произошло . фото потом из дома выложу .
Привет всем. Столкнулся с автомобилем Опель Зафира 2001 год, Y20DTH.
По словам владельца заглохла внезапно и не заводиться.
Сканер показывает ошибку P1631 malfunction 3.
Опель Тис говорит что есть 7-мь вариантов этой ошибки и наш 3-й.
Ошибка связи между Эбу двиг. и ТНВД. Там 6-ть проводов.
Вижу такую картину:
— Питание ТНВД нормальное (под нагрузкой)
— шина CAN уровни осцилографом нормальные
+ Разрывают, со стороны ЭБУ есть пакеты и не видно проблем
+ Со стороны ТНВД тоже нормально.
+ Соединяю назад подключаю CAN monitir вижу пакеты между блоками,
там 6-ть адресов конечных точек (по памяти 20,28,200,208,400,408)
Обмен идет колизий нет, битых пакетов нет, смыс бай конечно же
неизвестен но они общаются и грубых проблем не вижу.
— Еще два коричневых провода на одном подтяжка на +12v на другом 0
при отключении ТНВД. Из некоего описания вычитываю что там должно быть сигнал оборотов ТНВД на ЭБУ и сигнал положения педали акселератора из ЭБУ на ТНВД. Кручу стартером на одном таки есть четкие импульсы понимаю что это обороты ТНВД. На другом почти всегда 0 вольт и при включении зажигания и после вращения есть перепад из
0 в 12 вольт и назад. На сигнал педали ни как не тянет. При нажатии педали там нет отклика, понимаю что это что то другое (а что это за сигнал ???)
— Все эти провода между ЭБУ и ТНВД отлично прозваниваються.
— ТИС при этой ошибке упорно пишет проверяйте соединение 91,99,100,105 между Эбу и ТНВД.
Внимание вопрос знатокам …
На битый ключь если по феншую то ни как не похоже по моему.
А на что оно тогда ругается ???
— Может содержимое CAN пакетов кривое ? Читал что если ТНВД взять
неродной с Эбу то такая ошибка вылазит, был у кого-то такой случай.
Но вроде эта телега сама долго ехала и даже перла по трассе и тнвд не менял ни кто. Все картинки и тесты сохранены могу выложить.
Не могу понять логику этой неисправности. Есть чуйло что тут что то очевидное, просто я не в курсе. Подскажите добрые люди, дайте направление поиска пожалуйста…
Re: ТНВД VP-30/44 Форд Транзит 2000-2006г.
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Green_Wulf » 24 сен 2014, 16:22
OAM67, Возник повод для размышлений.
На «хвосте» клапана, это что? Разъём, или что то типа того?
Если да, тогда получается что он в таком виде и продаётся, и не понятно зачем тогда будут торчать обрезанные провода из мозгов насоса, если их всё равно придётся выкидывать, что бы подключить клапан?
Или получается, что должны быть два варианта комплектации мозгов, один для замены только мозгов, а другой для замены мозгов и клапана. Но тогда явно должны быть два разных BOSCHевских кода, с разными комплектациями.
Может всё таки то, что предлагается под 2 467 010 016 это мозги с клапаном и муфтой, а у мозгов без клапана и муфты уже другой каталожный номер, типа например 2467010014 хоть не для форда но всё же для VP30 и явно видны обрезанные провода?
Или я не тем путём иду? Ибо, цена то клапана (у одного и того же продавца), больше стоимости мозгов, как уж тут можно говорить, о том мозги с клапаном и муфтой в сборе могут стоить дешевле одного только клапана
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