Re: ман тга ошибки ебс
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max10.84 » Чт фев 16, 2017 12:22 am
Чтобы не начинать новую тему спрошу тут. Машина MAN TGX 2009 года, EBS 5. Горит ошибка 4352-00(модуль регулировки давления для колеса 1, ошибка идентификации, запрос больше измеренного давления). Питание на левый передний модулятор подается на секунду и исчезает. Проводка от блока до модулятора в норме, подключали(без меня) этот модулятор на правую сторону, там этой ошибки нет. Но подключали только фишку питания, поэтому были ошибки по датчику скорости и датчику износа. Еще такой момент, когда фишку от модулятора отсоединяю совсем , то ошибка эта и остается. Также вытаскивал разъем на модуляторы из самого блока, по трем колесам пишет, что нет связи CAN c модуляторами, а по левому так и горит 4352-00.
Для верности надо было наверное менять модуляторы полностью(все трубки и все фишки). Если по правой стороне проблема вылезет, то модулятор неисправен. а если так и останется ошибка по левой стороне, то дело получается в пневматике, либо в самом блоке EBS. Как вообще блок понимает, что проблема по пневматике ушла, если сам отрубает питание на модулятор и должно оно вообще отключаться при такой ошибке?
MAN tgs 40T самосвал 2013г. vin Z0W34WZZ7EV000318
Здравствуйте, подскажите пожалуйста. При нажатии педали тормоза, отключается модулятор заднего моста (при давлении от 10). Ошибки abs, ebs. Но если нажимать педаль тормоза очень медленно(!), то в аварийный режим не уходит. При давлении ниже 6, нажимая педаль тормоза(быстро-медленно), тоже все нормально. Ошибок в блоках нет до аварийного режима. Кроме показаний датчиков вращения колёс заднего моста, на 5,6 колесе показания 461 km/ч. После аварийного режима ошибки следующие: EBS 4354, 4355, 4356, 4357, PTM 5621, 5620. (подробнее на фото). Заменён модулятор заднего моста, заменен ножной кран педали тормоза. Подкидывали заведомо рабочий блок ebs салонный. Заменены датчики ABS 5,6 колеса. После всех продцедур, все ровно задние колеса 461km/ч.! Провода от педали до блока EBS прозванивали. Год назад дилер ман по какой то причине подкинули провода от заднего модулятора, и передних до фишки. Их тоже прозванивали, целые. Can шина 84om, на другом мане тоже 84ом. Подскажите пожалуйста, куда ещё смотреть? Ошибки безопасности скидываем мк2. Спасибо
04222 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 6, air gap too great
04222 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 222
04222 ZBRO Night lighting check
04223 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 7, air gap too great
04223 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 223
04223 ZBRO Interior lighting 2c full
04224 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 8, air gap too great
04224 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 224
04224 ZBRO Interior lighting 1a full
04225 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 1, impulse wheel defective
04225 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 225
04225 ZBRO Interior lighting 1b full
04226 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 2, impulse wheel defective
04226 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 226
04226 ZBRO Interior lighting 1c full
04227 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 3, impulse wheel defective
04227 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 227
04227 ZBRO Interior lighting reduction
04228 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 4, impulse wheel defective
04228 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 228
04228 ZBRO Interior lighting reduct. check
04229 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 5, impulse wheel defective
04229 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 229
04229 ZBRO Footwell lighting
04230 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 6, impulse wheel defective
04230 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 230
04230 ZBRO Footwell lighting
04231 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 7, impulse wheel defective
04231 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 231
04231 ZBRO Aisle lighting
04232 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 8, impulse wheel defective
04232 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 232
04232 ZBRO Reading lights on
04233 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 1, tyre diameter too great
04233 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 233
04233 ZBRO Reading lights enable
04234 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 2, tyre diameter too great
04234 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 234
04234 ZBRO Interior lighting 4
04235 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 3, tyre diameter too great
04235 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 235
04235 ZBR2 Left entry lighting
04236 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 4, tyre diameter too great
04236 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 236
04236 ZBR2 Right entry lighting
04237 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 5, tyre diameter too great
04237 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 237
04238 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 6, tyre diameter too great
04238 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 238
04239 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 7, tyre diameter too great
04239 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 239
04240 EBS_5 (!) Speed sensor wheel 8, tyre diameter too great
04240 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 240
04241 EBS_5 Pressure module intake valve on wheel 1
04241 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 241
04242 EBS_5
Pressure module intake valve on wheel 1, valve cannot be
switched and is opened
04242 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 242
04243 EBS_5
Pressure module intake valve on wheel 1, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04243 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 243
04244 EBS_5 Pressure module intake valve on wheel 2
04244 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 244
04245 EBS_5
Pressure module intake valve on wheel 2, valve cannot be
switched and is opened
04245 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 245
04246 EBS_5
Pressure module intake valve on wheel 2, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04246 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 246
04247 EBS_5 Pressure module intake valve on wheel 3
04247 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 247
04248 EBS_5
Pressure module intake valve on wheel 3, valve cannot be
switched and is opened
04248 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 248
04249 EBS_5
Pressure module intake valve on wheel 3, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04249 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 249
04250 EBS_5 Pressure module intake valve on wheel 4
04250 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 250
04251 EBS_5
Pressure module intake valve on wheel 4, valve cannot be
switched and is opened
04251 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 251
04252 EBS_5
Pressure module intake valve on wheel 4, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04252 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 252
04253 EBS_5 Pressure module intake valve on wheel 5
04253 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 253
04254 EBS_5
Pressure module intake valve on wheel 5, valve cannot be
switched and is opened
04254 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 254
04255 EBS_5
Pressure module intake valve on wheel 5, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04255 TBM No response to DM4 request to control unit 255
04256 EBS_5 Pressure module intake valve on wheel 6
04257 EBS_5
Pressure module intake valve on wheel 6, valve cannot be
switched and is opened
04258 EBS_5
Pressure module intake valve on wheel 6, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04259 EBS_5 Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 1
04260 EBS_5
Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 1, valve cannot be
switched and is opened
04261 EBS_5
Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 1, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04262 EBS_5 Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 2
04263 EBS_5
Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 2, valve cannot be
switched and is opened
04264 EBS_5
Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 2, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04265 EBS_5 Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 3
04266 EBS_5
Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 3, valve cannot be
switched and is opened
04267 EBS_5
Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 3, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04268 EBS_5 Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 4
04269 EBS_5
Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 4, valve cannot be
switched and is opened
04270 EBS_5
Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 4, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04271 EBS_5 Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 5
04272 EBS_5
Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 5, valve cannot be
switched and is opened
04273 EBS_5
Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 5, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04274 EBS_5 Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 6
04275 EBS_5
Pressure module exhaust valve on wheel 6, valve cannot be
switched and is opened
04276 EBS_5 Pressure module backup valve on wheel 1
04277 EBS_5
Pressure module backup valve on wheel 1, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04278 EBS_5 Pressure module backup valve on wheel 2
04279 EBS_5
Pressure module backup valve on wheel 2, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04280 EBS_5 Pressure module backup valve on wheel 3
04281 EBS_5
Pressure module backup valve on wheel 3, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04282 EBS_5 Pressure module backup valve on wheel 4
04283 EBS_5
Pressure module backup valve on wheel 4, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04284 EBS_5 Pressure module backup valve on wheel 5
04285 EBS_5
Pressure module backup valve on wheel 5, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04286 EBS_5 Pressure module backup valve on wheel 6
04287 EBS_5
Pressure module backup valve on wheel 6, valve cannot be
switched and is closed
04288 EBS_5
Pressure module pressure sensor on wheel 1, offset learned by
teach-in
04289 EBS_5 Pressure module pressure sensor on wheel 1, signal
04290 EBS_5 Frequent-stop brake check lamp
04291 EBS_5
Pressure module pressure sensor on wheel 2, offset learned by
teach-in
04292 EBS_5 Pressure module pressure sensor on wheel 2, signal
04294 EBS_5
Pressure module pressure sensor on wheel 3, offset learned by
teach-in
04295 EBS_5 Pressure module pressure sensor on wheel 3, signal
Pressure module pressure sensor on wheel 4, offset learned by
04297 EBS_5
Pressure module pressure sensor on wheel 4, offset learned by
teach-in
04298 EBS_5 Pressure module pressure sensor on wheel 4, signal
04300 EBS_5
Pressure module pressure sensor on wheel 5, offset learned by
teach-in is too high
04300 ZBR2 Fill level, cleaning water
04301 EBS_5 Pressure module pressure sensor on wheel 5, signal
04301 ZBR2 Washer pump
04301 ZBRO Windscreen washers
04302 EBS_5
Pressure module pressure sensor on wheel 5, offset learned by
teach-in is too low
04302 ZBR2 Intermittent wipe switch
04302 ZBRO Windscreen wiper interval
04303 EBS_5
Pressure module pressure sensor on wheel 6, offset learned by
teach-in
04303 ZBR2 CLK interval switch
04304 EBS_5 Pressure module pressure sensor on wheel 6, signal
04304 ZBR2 Windscreen washer button
04304 ZBRO Windscreen washers
04305 ZBR2 Rain sensor signal
04306 EBS_5 Wheel 1: Brake performance monitoring
04306 ZBR2 Fill level, headlight cleaning system
04307 EBS_5 Wheel 2: Brake performance monitoring
04307 ZBR2 Pump, headlight cleaning system
04308 EBS_5 Wheel 3: Brake performance monitoring
04308 ZBR2 Wiper motor revolutions
04309 EBS_5 Wheel 4: Brake performance monitoring
04309 ZBR2 Wiper motor speed
04310 EBS_5 Wheel 5: Brake performance monitoring
04310 ZBR2 Wiper relay (spare relay, parking light)
04310 ZBRO Windscreen wiper relay
04311 EBS_5 Wheel 6: Brake performance monitoring
04311 ZBR2 Wiper limit switch
04311 ZBRO Windscreen wiper zero position
04312 EBS_5
(!) Wheel 1 in conjunction with ABS logic: ABS is demanding
insufficient brake pressure over an implausibly long time
04312 ZBR2 Wiper switch position
04313 EBS_5
(!) Wheel 2 in conjunction with ABS logic: ABS is demanding
insufficient brake pressure over an implausibly long time
04313 ZBRO Windscreen wiper stage 1
04314 EBS_5
(!) Wheel 3 in conjunction with ABS logic: ABS is demanding
insufficient brake pressure over an implausibly long time
04314 ZBRO Windscreen wiper stage 2
04315 EBS_5
(!) Wheel 4 in conjunction with ABS logic: ABS is demanding
insufficient brake pressure over an implausibly long time
04316 EBS_5
(!) Wheel 5 in conjunction with ABS logic: ABS is demanding
insufficient brake pressure over an implausibly long time
04317 EBS_5
(!) Wheel 6 in conjunction with ABS logic: ABS is demanding
insufficient brake pressure over an implausibly long time
04318 EBS_5 (!) Wheel 1 in conjunction with ABS logic: Wheel speed fault
04319 EBS_5 (!) Wheel 2 in conjunction with ABS logic: Wheel speed fault
04320 EBS_5 (!) Wheel 3 in conjunction with ABS logic: Wheel speed fault
04321 EBS_5 (!) Wheel 4 in conjunction with ABS logic: Wheel speed fault
04322 EBS_5 (!) Wheel 5 in conjunction with ABS logic: Wheel speed fault
04323 EBS_5 (!) Wheel 6 in conjunction with ABS logic: Wheel speed fault
04324 EBS_5
(!) Wheel 1 in conjunction with ABS logic: Change between
active and inactive ABS intervention too fast
04325 EBS_5
(!) Wheel 2 in conjunction with ABS logic: Change between
active and inactive ABS intervention too fast
04326 EBS_5
(!) Wheel 3 in conjunction with ABS logic: Change between
active and inactive ABS intervention too fast
04327 EBS_5
(!) Wheel 4 in conjunction with ABS logic: Change between
active and inactive ABS intervention too fast
04328 EBS_5
(!) Wheel 5 in conjunction with ABS logic: Change between
active and inactive ABS intervention too fast
04329 EBS_5
(!) Wheel 6 in conjunction with ABS logic: Change between
active and inactive ABS intervention too fast
04330 EBS_5
External sequential fault: External vehicle speed signal
implausible
04331 EBS_5
External sequential fault: Time overrun or fault condition in
communication with gearbox control unit on CAN (SA=0x03)
04332 EBS_5
External sequential fault: Time overrun or fault condition in
communication with EAC control unit d on CAN (SA=0x30)
04333 EBS_5
External sequential fault: Time overrun or fault condition in
communication with ECAS control unit on CAN (SA=0x2F)
04334 EBS_5
External sequential fault: Time overrun or fault condition in
communication with central on-board computer on CAN
(SA=0x21)
04335 EBS_5
External sequential fault: Time overrun in communication with
trailer control unit 1
04336 EBS_5
External sequential fault: Time overrun in communication with
trailer control unit 2
04337 EBS_5
(!) Trailer control module pressure control: Implausible intake
valve actuation
04338 EBS_5
(!) Trailer control module pressure control: Residual pressure
detected
04339 EBS_5
(!) Trailer control module pressure control: Implausibly high
pressure at the end of braking and parking brake signal
defective
04340 EBS_5
(!) Trailer control module pressure control: Implausibly high
pressure at the end of braking and long actuation of the parking
brake switch
04341 EBS_5
(!) Trailer control module pressure control: Implausibly high
pressure at the end of braking and long actuation of the anti-
jackknife brake valve
04342 EBS_5
(!) Trailer control module pressure control: Implausibly high
pressure at the end of braking and parking brake switch and
trailer brake switch not actuated
04343 EBS_5
(!) Trailer control module pressure control: Implausibly high
pressure at the end of braking and parking brake signal
defective
04344 EBS_5
(!) Trailer control module pressure control: Implausibly high
pressure at the end of braking and long actuation of the parking
brake switch
04345 EBS_5
(!) Trailer control module pressure control: Implausibly high
pressure at the end of braking and long actuation of the anti-
jackknife brake switch
04346 EBS_5
(!) Trailer control module pressure control: Implausibly high
pressure at the end of braking and parking brake switch and
trailer brake switch not actuated
04347 EBS_5
(!) Trailer control module pressure control: Implausibly high
pressure in the exhaust valve actuation and parking brake signal
defective
04348 EBS_5
(!) Trailer control module pressure control: Implausibly high
pressure in the exhaust valve actuation and long actuation of the
parking brake switch
04349 EBS_5
(!) Trailer control module pressure control: Implausibly high
pressure in the exhaust valve actuation and long actuation of the
valve-controlled trailer brake switch
04350 EBS_5
(!) Trailer control module pressure control: Implausibly high
pressure in the exhaust valve actuation and parking brake
switch and trailer brake switch not actuated
04351 EBS_5 J1939 (driveline CAN): Time overrun in EBC1-RX message
04352 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 1:
Pressure comparison plausibility error: Request is greater than
the measured pressure
04353 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 2:
Pressure comparison plausibility error: Request is greater than
the measured pressure
04354 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 3:
Pressure comparison plausibility error: Request is greater than
the measured pressure
04355 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 4:
Pressure comparison plausibility error: Request is greater than
the measured pressure
04356 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 5:
Pressure comparison plausibility error: Request is greater than
the measured pressure
04357 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 6:
Pressure comparison plausibility error: Request is greater than
the measured pressure
04358 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 1:
Pressure comparison plausibility error: Measured pressure is
greater than request
04359 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 2:
Pressure comparison plausibility error: Measured pressure is
greater than request
04360 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 3:
Pressure comparison plausibility error: Measured pressure is
greater than request
04361 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 4:
Pressure comparison plausibility error: Measured pressure is
greater than request
04362 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 5:
Pressure comparison plausibility error: Measured pressure is
greater than request
04363 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 6:
Pressure comparison plausibility error: Measured pressure is
greater than request
04364 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 1: Full
braking test
04365 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 2: Full
braking test
04366 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 3: Full
braking test
04367 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 4: Full
braking test
04368 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 5: Full
braking test
04369 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 6: Full
braking test
04370 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 1:
Nominal/actual comparison between pressure regulating module
pressure and supply pressure
04371 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 2:
Nominal/actual comparison between pressure regulating module
pressure and supply pressure
04372 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 3:
Nominal/actual comparison between pressure regulating module
pressure and supply pressure
04373 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 4:
Nominal/actual comparison between pressure regulating module
pressure and supply pressure
04374 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 5:
Nominal/actual comparison between pressure regulating module
pressure and supply pressure
04375 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 6:
Nominal/actual comparison between pressure regulating module
pressure and supply pressure
04376 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 1:
Temporary backup test
04377 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 2:
Temporary backup test
04378 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 3:
Temporary backup test
04379 EBS_5
(!) Pressure regulating module pressure control on wheel 4:
Temporary backup test