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Здесь всё что поможет найти прошивки , прошить , заменять и редактировать биосы видеокарт на чипах Nvidia ! Смотрим подробный FAQ на первой странице ! NiBiTor — редактируем параметры напряжений для Fermi . Модденые биосы для GTX 460 (с разлоченной напругой) . Инструкция по модификации BIOS 970/980 с отключением BOOST Автор: freem-freem Настройки биоса Теперь делаем Save BIOS As и сохраняем с каким-то кастомным названием, теперь все в том же окне командной строки набираем Мой правленый bios MSI 970 1506/7800 http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showth … t=18638693 http://www.overclock.net/t/1517316/extr … t_23034441 http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1838369 http://cryptomining-blog.com/3757-how-t … d-gtx-980/ http://www.overclock.net/t/1522651/disa … maxwell-ii Пример как разгонять карты 970/980/980ti по таблице буст частот Информация от участника темы: Аффторитет Вкладка Power Table Вкладка Voltage Table (очень важный момент, если вы меняете напругу) третьей строках в левый ползунок ставим желаемую напругу, правый ползунок второй строки делаем на шаг больше, чтобы при мониторинге не показывало мол достигнут предел по напряжению. Для наглядности скрины, в левом оригинал, в правом изменения. Напругу изменили (ну а кто-то вовсе менять не будет), теперь сохраняем биос, прошиваем. Далее даем нагрузку на карту и смотрим подается ли указанная напруга и до какой частоты бустит карта. И так, имею я напругу 1.231в и частоту 1304МГц. У вас свои значения будут, запоминаем частоту и идем далее … Вкладка Boost table внимательны. Внизу двигаем ползунок так, чтобы на вашу буст-позицию установилась желаемая частота. На сринах 1506мгц на позицию №62. Вкладка Boost States Вкладка Common и Clock States скорость кулера по своему усмотрению. TDP, 3D Boost Entry-ы оставляем как было. Сохраняем биос. Теперь приступаем к колхозу. позиций. Какого черта он так наглеет я не знаю, по-этому будем возвращать оригинальный значения частот буст-позициям, предшествующим нашей максимальной. В моем случае с позиции №35 по №61. Качаем нех-редактор HxD http://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/ или иной какой-нибудь. Устанавливаем. Запускаем. Открываем в редакторе оригинальный биос, в меню жмем search — find, в поле search for вбиваем 12 2a 03 00 02, в поле datatype выбираем hex-values и жмем ОК красными кругами). Что означают остальные 4 значения в каждом блоке нам неважно, да я и не знаю хаха (но догадки имеются ) Если эти нумерации перевести из 16ричной в 10ричную систему и затем вычесть 12, то получим нумерацию как в таблице буст частот: 12 = 18 — 12 =06, 13 = 19 -12 = 07, 14 = 08, 15 = 09, 16 = 10 и тд. прибавить +12 и перевести результат в 16ричную систему — получаем 2F и находим этот блок (выделено синим). Ищу теперь блок №61, его позиция в редакторе будет 61+12 = 49 в 16ричной системе исчисления (выделено розовым). ними, вставляю заменой (ПКМ-paste write) порцию скопированных ранее оригинальных блоков буст-позиций. Далее сохраняю изменения. Теперь отколхозенный биос открываю в твикере и смотрю что получилось (на скрине оригинал, мод и нех-мод) Теперь пересохраняем его в твикере, а то контрольная сумма (checksum) у нас не совпадает. Твикер выровняет ее за нас при сохранении Далее прошиваемся и наслаждаемся кашерным разгоном через буст. Вот и всё Пошаговое редактирование BIOS(в том числе с помощью НЕХ-редактора) и рассмотрение ключевых параметров Информация от участника темы: olegdjus Начнем по вкладкам. 2) Вкладка Voltage Table Здесь можете углубленно прочитать про редактирование напряжений их шагов 3) Вкладка Power Table Это лимиты мощности. Нас интересуют первые 6 групп(одна группа состоит из Min|Def|Max значений) 4) Вкладка Boost Table Вариант с редактирование таблицы частот с помощью НЕХ-редактора: 5) Вкладка Boost States 6) Вкладка Clock States Редактирование BIOS Kepler с помощью HEX-редактора Добрый день! 1) Открываем BIOS с помощью KBT, заходим в Boost Table. б) (для GTX TITAN /GTX 780/GTX 780Ti/GTX TITAN BLACK (GK110. Kepler 28nm)) Программы для прошивки и редактирования BIOS Скачать Редактирование биос Kepler (680670GTX) Как шить: http://forum.reborn.ru/showthread.php?t=856903 Соблюдение правил конференции — обязательно ! *************************** ***************************
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вот так вот ругается… Прошивальщик не знает данную микросхему eeprom. |
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Igor-Igor писал(а): Прошивальщик не знает данную микросхему eeprom. О как , качал последнюю версию nvflash.Значит мне не судьба биос перепрошить? |
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Ребятки помогите прошиться, делаю все по инструкции, ввожу nvflash —protectoff nvflash последний с techpowerup винда 64битная |
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Оверквотинг Scio писал(а): Ребятки помогите прошиться, делаю все по инструкции, ввожу nvflash —protectoff nvflash последний с techpowerup винда 64битная Такая же фигня была,почему то эта версия не запускается как 64 битная
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Hurtman спасибо с этим помогло, но после того уже как ввожу новый биос и принимаю на y вылазит ошибка ERROR: BIOS Cert 2.0 Verification Error, Update aborted. В чем может быть проблема? |
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ArtLonger Не помогло |
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Scio писал(а): ERROR: BIOS Cert 2.0 Verification Error, Update aborted Ты пытался родной (сохранённый) биос перепрошить? |
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Hurtman писал(а): Ты пытался родной (сохранённый) биос перепрошить? В смысле? |
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Scio писал(а): помогите прошиться, делаю все по инструкции, ввожу nvflash —protectoff ну раз автоматически не может нужно видеокарту вручную отключить |
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Scio писал(а): В смысле? Ну вдруг ситуация как у меня: |
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Коллеги приветствую. Вопрос, на который не смог найти здесь ответ. GTS 450, два порта вывода: HDMI и DVI задействованы на 2 вывода. Но приоритетный порт DVI, а нужен HDMI (вывод загрузки на экран с HDMI). С поддержкой NVIDIA и ZOTAC пообщался. Сказали, что эти настройки прописаны в VBIOS GPU и изменить их нельзя. Занимался кто-нибудь подобной проблемой и есть ли какое-либо решение? Спасибо. |
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Цитата: Прошить из DOS можно через загрузочную флешку (которую можно создать и использовать с помошью товарища serga01net ) .Так же файлы для создания загрузочной флешки (инструкция в картинках в комплекте )можно взять здесь http://cp.people.overclockers.ru/cgi-bi … ash-Dos.7z Ни первая, ни вторая ссылка из FAQ-а не работает. С паскалями работает только последняя версия nvflash 5.292.0. По какой-то непонятной причине в ней отсутствует версия для систем x64. Поэтому в винде x64 прошить, видимо, не получиться, ну, по крайней мере тем способом, который описан в FAQ. |
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Да,с шапкой беда давно,гугл помог |
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Подскажите. http://i7.5cm.ru/i/VFMK.png |
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Камрады прошу помощи. Скрины Power Table / на 1ом первые четыре группы, на 2ом три оставшиеся #77 Потыкал почитал То мне так и не понятно — нужно ли что менять с 2ым коннектором которого нет… |
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у меня что-то с мозгом. решил сперва прошить в свою тишку биос от G1 гейминг. Последний раз биос на видяхах прошивал лет 12 назад. Смотрю ничего не поменялось..кроме одного: при попытке прошиться я получил надпись о том, что у меня нет видеокарты нвидия)) Че делать? |
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Че делать? Отредактирвоать стоковый с нужными частотами и прошить «правильным» шилом. |
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Hey Guys, I hope I am posting this cry out for help in the right place, I’m a newbie to flashing GPU’s. Having already bricked one of my cards, a week later I am still trying. My heads completely frazzled. I have read hours upon hours of threads & guides both here and over at Overclock.net. Problems started after Failing 1st flash, at the time I was really pleased I never tried to flash both at the same time. My systems under custom watercooling, having stripped it down I put !st card on my test bench, would not boot. Long story short after a few days I got my PC to boot off the good card. Few more days without any luck trying to reflash the bad card, today I have somehow got in a mess with the one that was working. I do everything as per the guides, Protect off follow all the commands correctly, asks me to press «Y» to continue and get the error in the title bar of this thread. I dare not turn the machine off for fear of bricking this card. I’m in the UK so really ought to tucked up in bed but as stated I dare not turn the damn thing off. Any of you guys with far superior knowledge and experience could point out what I am doing wrong I will be eternally grateful. I am just trying to flash the original bios back on the card in Gpuz card is showing up as Nvida GTX 980 Ti, Subvendor & Device ID re also correct, all other values are showing as unknown, clocks etc. are zero’s. I have latest drivers which are showing as correct. Thanks you to anyone who looks, an even bigger thank you to anyone who might be able to help me out……
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So uh, first off why did you want to flash?
Secondly fill out your system specs.
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So uh, first off why did you want to flash?
Secondly fill out your system specs.
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Was your card faulty before you tried to flash it or did a bad flash kill it?
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NVFlash Bypassed is the key. Go to link that somelilboy post.
Sorry. Didn’t see that this is 1 month old thread.
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Hope he learned a lesson about not screwing with cards.
To everyone else that doesn’t have a clue on gpu bios flashes you are warned, read my signature.
[SOLVED] GTX 970 BIOS flashing problem *not bricked*
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I hope someone of you can help me with my problem. And no, this is not a «I bricked my GPU while BIOS flashing» Thread, before you leave right away. Anyway, continuing: Recently I decided to BIOS flash my 5 y/o ZOTAC GTX 970 amp omega core. Even though it was and still is a great card, with newer titles (and imo newer drivers but okay) the card really starts to struggle, even on medium settings (for example in Apex Legends, especially in the dropship). OC helps a bit, but the card constatly hits power limit. So I looked up how to do this on the internet and found some good video and written solutions. However, they do not cover my problem and I searched around the internet for a while now. As soon as I want to press «y» to install the driver it says «BIOS cert 2.0 verification error, update aborted», «Nothing changed», «ERROR: Invalid firmware image detected». I started the nvflash64 with parameter -6 and my modified rom file. And yes, the rom file originates from this exact GPU, which i extracted with GPU-Z and modified with Maxwell GPU Tweaker. Does someone have an idea why this happens and what I can do?
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Guys I have run into an issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I have a Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 (F51). I grabbed the GTX970 F3 custom BIOS from the following thread: http://www.overclock.net/t/1544574/gigabyte-gtx-9xx-g1-gaming-h2o-air-bios-tweaking. I then used Maxwell BIOS Tweaker to copy the value from the F3 BIOS to my F51 BIOS.
From there I flashed my modified F51 BIOS onto my card utilising the same guide from the above link. I was having performance issues, so i decided to flash back to my original firmware. Unfortunately when i try to flash back to my original firmware utilsing Joe Dirts version of NVFlash, I get the below error.
BCRT Error: Certificate 2.0 verification failed
ERROR: BIOS Cert 2.0 Verification Error, Update aborted.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
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I am also having the same issue. It fails every time with the following error:
BCRT Error: Certificate 2.0 verification failed
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Try disabling the graphics card from device manager first, then try to flash, once it succeeds, reboot then reenable the graphics card.
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Originally Posted by rockeets
Guys I have run into an issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I have a Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 (F51). I grabbed the GTX970 F3 custom BIOS from the following thread: http://www.overclock.net/t/1544574/gigabyte-gtx-9xx-g1-gaming-h2o-air-bios-tweaking. I then used Maxwell BIOS Tweaker to copy the value from the F3 BIOS to my F51 BIOS.
From there I flashed my modified F51 BIOS onto my card utilising the same guide from the above link. I was having performance issues, so i decided to flash back to my original firmware. Unfortunately when i try to flash back to my original firmware utilsing Joe Dirts version of NVFlash, I get the below error.
BCRT Error: Certificate 2.0 verification failed
ERROR: BIOS Cert 2.0 Verification Error, Update aborted.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Which ver of nvflash are you using? if it’s 265 there seems to be an issue currently going on w/ it, even w/ your original bios. Download 250 and retry it. This is what I had to do. See this post for more info: http://www.overclock.net/t/1521334/official-nvflash-with-certificate-checks-bypassed-for-gtx-950-960-970-980-980ti-titan-x/540_20#post_25015541
Good luck and hope this helps
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try different bypassed nvflash versions. that worked on my card as i soft-bricked it.
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Use a stock version NVFlash… My modded versions looks for a fail command and passes it to continue on. If it see’s a pass command, it will fail. So a valid BIOS will fail with my modded NVFlash.
Самый прикол, что сейчас все карты 1070 идут с памятью микрон, я вот уже третью тесщу, чудес отэтой памяти ждать не приходится, даже от палитовских, где как бы есть «фича» добавочного напряжения на память, Гига Г1, Палит Гейфоркс, Мси Гаминг Х, все с микроном пока, разгон по памяти по сравнению с самсунгом плачевный. Завтра обычную палит возьму, самую дешевую.. мало ли. Обновленный биос от палита решил проблему только кулеров, и то не везде, повысили еще на пару процентов лимит потребления, реально не сильно помогло, больше от удачности чипа гонится все же.
Вот кстати сообщение о том, что официально признан факт недоделки по памяти микрон, http://cryptoage.com/ru/689-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BD-%D1%84%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82-%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82-nvidia-gtx-1070.html
Там внимательно гляньте комментарий, человек пишет, что с помощью «кривой» понизил потребление карты.. это в какой проге, кто видел? Не от гиг ли? Может там понижать нужно напряжение на память )
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EDIT: PROOF PASCAL IS NOT HARD LIMITED TO 1.093v
See my 3rd post. (Read all of it for background on what I was doing when I found this out)
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Version 5.319.0 of nvflash worked.
Thanks anyway guys. — Original message still below.
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My friend and I are trying to flash his new 1080 CLASSIFIED with a modified ASUS STRIX bios.
The STRIX bios has voltage modified to allow up to 1.2v and power limit removed.
We have been trying for hours together with Nvflash.
I have already removed write protection with command: nvflash —protectoff
And we are now trying to use the command: nvflash —overridesub bios.rom.
It asks me to «press ‘y’ to confirm override of PCI Subsystem ID’s:»
then ‘y’ to confirm but then I get the following error message:
«BCRT Error: Certificate 2.0 verification failed
ERROR: BIOS Cert 2.0 Verification Error, Update aborted.»
Has anyone successfully cross-flashed a pascal card with a bios from a different manufacturer?
I know people have successfully managed this before so any help from anyone with experience would be excellent.
If anyone can help I’m happy to share overclocking experience/figures and also provide link to the modified BIOS.
Nicholas Peyton
Just found the answer to my own question:
Version 5.319.0 of nvflash worked.
Thanks anyway guys.
Nicholas Peyton
BTW — Flash worked! — System booted up just fine
Seen 1.1v on GPU-z (normally can’t get over 1.093)
Classified doesn’t seem to be compatible with the «removed» power limit on the modified BIOS though.
I don’t think the driver/card knew what to do and power options were disabled in PrecisionX and GPUTWEAK2.
Couldn’t get the card to draw more than 150W even though power limit was meant to have been removed with this BIOS. (With factory LN2 BIOS on 1080 Classified I can draw up to 320W but locked to 1.093v).
Might have got further if power limit had simply been «massively increased» instead of simply removed as card/driver/program didn’t seem to know how to handle this. It seemed to fall back to a low-power fail-safe mode.
I am quite sure if the power limit had been increased instead of removed completely with this BIOS we would have also seen the card boosting to higher voltages.
Hoping more modified BIOS’s continue to come out.
If anyone has any or knows of any voltage modified BIOS please let me know — I am happy to test and report findings. If anyone can provide a link to a BIOS on the database that they know the voltage has been modified on, please post! Thanks.
If anything guys at least this proves the cards are not «hard» limited to 1.093. They are in fact hard limited to something slightly higher and it is the BIOS which is limiting us to 1.093v.
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We weren’t using my card
Also — We would be more than happy if the voltage would even unlock up to the advertised voltage points in EVGA’s Precision X
Even when it went up to 1.1v on my friends card this is still within the advertised overclocking limit of Precision X.
The dual-bios on his card also means we can safely play around with this kind of thing without bricking
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Nicholas Peyton
How does the sub-zero temperature help the increased voltage allow higher clocks/more stability? What is the science behind that?
I always assumed that as long as the temp was below throttling level it wouldn’t be an issue. Even with 320w draw on the card at 1.093v I still can’t get above 64c-68c on air as long as fan is at 100%
I was also thinking of getting a Hailea water chiller for my loop when I go water. It can cool the water down to 5c. There are 500w up to 2000w models available. (Condensation would only be an issue if I forgot to put the temperature back to ambient after a short benchmark/stress test).
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if silicon is a better conductor the hotter it gets then why are heatsinks and coolers fitted to Chips»
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Nicholas Peyton
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While we’re on the subject, is this because of Pascal’s 16nm process getting so «small» that these ‘non-conducting walls’ and ‘pathways’ are more fragile in terms of «leakage» due to their smaller size?
Should we be seeing a similar problem with Intel’s Sky lake (14nm process) — as in contrast Skylake actually «scales» very very well with voltage.
I know they are used for two completely different purposes, but shouldn’t both «nano-technologies» theoretically have the same constraints? Or am I wayyy off the mark — and they are actually completely and utterly different at the microscopic level?
(Again I am asking this in the interest of knowledge and debate)
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While we’re on the subject, is this because of Pascal’s 16nm process getting so «small» that these ‘non-conducting walls’ and ‘pathways’ are more fragile in terms of «leakage» due to their smaller size?
Should we be seeing a similar problem with Intel’s Sky lake (14nm process) — as in contrast Skylake actually «scales» very very well with voltage.
I know they are used for two completely different purposes, but shouldn’t both «nano-technologies» theoretically have the same constraints? Or am I wayyy off the mark — and they are actually completely and utterly different at the microscopic level?
(Again I am asking this in the interest of knowledge and debate)
the same but don’t forget that the architecture is the 1st and most important constraint, not the manufacturing node. That’s why AMD GPUs can’t clock very high whereas Nvidias can — both are on a comparable node, and were on same node (28nm TSMC) before.
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the same but don’t forget that the architecture is the 1st and most important constraint, not the manufacturing node. That’s why AMD GPUs can’t clock very high whereas Nvidias can — both are on a comparable node, and were on same node (28nm TSMC) before.
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Why not modify the Classified bios in the same way the strix bios was modified. I’d have to image the classy is more able to support such things than the strix. That way you have your 320W limit and the voltage above 1.09V.
. I assume you are measuring that with a multimeter?
Nicholas Peyton
Why not modify the Classified bios in the same way the strix bios was modified. I’d have to image the classy is more able to support such things than the strix. That way you have your 320W limit and the voltage above 1.09V.
. I assume you are measuring that with a multimeter?
Using HWINFO64 for ‘exact reading’ and validating it using a watt meter plugged into wall socket, (meter into socket, then computer into meter — only gives me full system draw, but by comparing loads I can roughly validate hwinfo.
And regarding the BIOS — if you know anyone who knows how to modify it let me know — there are BIOS editors/tweakers for 9 series Nvidia cards (Maxwell) but nothing has appeared yet for Pascal 🙁
If I knew how to modify it I would be doing it right now lol
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Using HWINFO64 for ‘exact reading’ and validating it using a watt meter plugged into wall socket, (meter into socket, then computer into meter — only gives me full system draw, but by comparing loads I can roughly validate hwinfo.
And regarding the BIOS — if you know anyone who knows how to modify it let me know — there are BIOS editors/tweakers for 9 series Nvidia cards (Maxwell) but nothing has appeared yet for Pascal 🙁
If I knew how to modify it I would be doing it right now lol
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Kanan
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The way I see it, everything is shrinked, but not the car. The roads are smaller, the car is still as big as before. So yes it needs more control, less voltage. And if you still want high voltage, it’s not as easy as with bigger nodes — that’s why the temperature needs to be even colder than before to reach the same voltage. Extreme cold temperatures helped always with overclocking, it’s not that it started being helpful with smaller nodes.
The whole reason why I say the architecture is king, and the most important reason for high clocks is simply Maxwell. Before Maxwell Nvidia was like AMD, limited overclocks to about 1200-1300ish. And then it was something else, because Maxwell is another design, a less complex architecture, yet better controlled and more efficient too. FinFet boosted that even higher, Maxwell on 16nm Finfet (called «Pascal», with a few additions, mainly VR performance increaseses and some kind of wannabe Asynchronous Compute) broke the 2 GHz wall, something AMD with it’s far more complex architecture and old compute heavy design is far away from achieving. But you can’t have both, if AMDs complex architecture is fully used it takes off like a rocket — too bad it’s just not often the case.
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Im trying to flash my msi gtx970 bios, but nvflash just crashes for me. I have the card deactivated and everything, but it just doesnt work and simply crashes… GPU-Z has no issues accessing the card for a memory dump, so why isnt nvflash working? Do I need some additional libs installed or something?
P.S. running nvflash 5.196, new bios and nvflash both provided by MSI.
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S/N of card, vbios to flash?
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I grabbed the update via MSI’s Live Update: NV316MH_182
My SN is: 602-V316-03SB…
I also tried it manually via command line, but I cant even list my graphicscard with it:
nvflash.exe —list
It just crashes again… Why?
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Did you want to flash an older version? Latest is NV316MH.185.
If you want to flash .182 did you try the prepared archive here: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184740.msg1325770#msg1325770
and also followed instructions? Have you tried completely uninstalling nvidia driver without rebooting?
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to be a smart ass, latest is NV316MH.186
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the info about it not being the latest revision is fine and all, but that isnt the issue here:
nvflash doesnt even allow listing on my graphicscard, let alone flash said card, so no matter how many links to newer BIOSes you link me to, it won’t help me till I can actually flash it
anyway: yes, I tried the prepared archive, though it didnt change anything: it crashed like before.
Here is what i tried so far:
1. tried flashing while gtx970 was deactivated
2. tried flashing while there were no gpu drivers installed
3. tried flashing while running on Intel iGPU (no monitors hooked up to gtx970)
4. repeat 3. with gtx970 disabled
5. repeat 3. with gtx970 disabled and uninstalled
I dont get it… are there alternative tools to flash the bios, maybe in DOS mode or something? I have no clue why it just wouldnt work. GPU-Z has no issues dumping the BIOS, but nvflash cant dump,list,check,whatever without crashing…
Do i need some additional libraries or frameworks for it to work?
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Have you renamed the vbios as «.rom» ?
Try run «CMD» as Administrator under Windows when driver 344.48 is installed.
then go to the nvflash and vbios directory (cd [the directory of nvflash and vbios]),
and type «nvflash [nvXXX.rom]» enter (need to press twice «Y»)
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TZBC said:
Have you renamed the vbios as «.rom» ?
Try run «CMD» as Administrator under Windows when driver 344.48 is installed.
then go to the nvflash and vbios directory (cd [the directory of nvflash and vbios]),
and type «nvflash [nvXXX.rom]» enter (need to press twice «Y»)
did this, tried that. again: it isnt just the flash thats failing, it is nvflash trying to access the card in any way that already crashes it. so lets leave out the act of flashing entirely for now and focus on making nvflash do the «—list» command, which already causes it to crash.
for reference, I already tried administrative access, directly flashing from C: as well as various other locations and whatnot: nothing made any difference whatsoever.
Svet
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what error message you have received?
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Svet said:
what error message you have received?
please note that I had the gpu disabled at the time I ran the command!
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I fixed it! Gigabyte has a newer revision of the nvflash tool and that one does not crash for me. I was able to flash the latest bios successfully!
For those running into the same issue as me, I attached the tool (v5.199) to this post. It worked flawlessly for me!
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The updated version of nvflash also solves the «Certificate 2.0 VBIOS Verification Error»
BCRT Error: Certificate 2.0 verification failed
Command failed to complete mailbox0 = 1000000B
Command id: 0011 Command: Unknown command failed
Error: NV_UCODE_ERR_CODE_CMD_TIMEOUT