Error contacting the parsoid restbase server http 500

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Regardless, it appears an open-ended left parenthesis (, with or without underlining, is the culprit for me.

* NOTE: Oops, forgot one detail: the underline code is inside the table. I just tested the (…) code outside the editor: when applied via the VisualEditor with COMMAND+U, it saves; when this code is pasted inside the source editor, it crashes the save, taking me to «The server encountered an internal error…»

Does anyone have any clue how the code of an underlined parenthesis might be causing issues?

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Title says it all. Does it matter if I’m on a shared hosting at this point? I thought version 1.35 would fix this and you wouldn’t need a parsoid setup.

The errors I’m getting is «Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 500)»

Thanks for your help!

I’ve tried various suggestions on this page, but still no joy. I’m using MediaWiki 1.38.1 and PHP 8.0.2.

I added an SSL, and now instead of HTTP 500 errors, I get HTTP 415 errors.

Looking in the error.log, there’s:

[Tue Jul 05 09:46:23.328497 2022] ModSecurity: Warning. Operator EQ matched 0 at REQUEST_HEADERS. [file «/dh/apache2/template/etc/mod_sec3_CRS/REQUEST-920-PROTOCOL-ENFORCEMENT.conf»] [line «238»] [id «920180»] [msg «POST without Content-Length or Transfer-Encoding headers»] [data «0»] [severity «WARNING»] [ver «OWASP_CRS/3.3.2»] [tag «application-multi»] [tag «language-multi»] [tag «platform-multi»] [tag «attack-protocol»] [tag «paranoia-level/1»] [tag «OWASP_CRS»] [tag «capec/1000/210/272»] [hostname «wiki.ouroakland.net»] [uri «/oaklandwiki/rest.php/wiki.ouroakland.net/v3/transform/html/to/wikitext/Lakeside_Temple_of_Practical_Christianity/266»] [unique_id «YsRq312mt4Is-dpsn87Y8QAABBg»]

Is my host (Dreamhost) being overly strict, or is the Visual Editor code leaving out something important? Or is it something else entirely?

I’m using siteground for hosting and I used their one-click install. I then added the following to the localsettings file:

// Enable by default for everybody $wgDefaultUserOptions[‘visualeditor-enable’] = 1;

// Optional: Set VisualEditor as the default for anonymous users // otherwise they will have to switch to VE // $wgDefaultUserOptions[‘visualeditor-editor’] = «visualeditor»;

// Don’t allow users to disable it $wgHiddenPrefs[] = ‘visualeditor-enable’;

// OPTIONAL: Enable VisualEditor’s experimental code features # $wgDefaultUserOptions[‘visualeditor-enable-experimental’] = 1;

I would suggest trying it without using their one-click installer. Does it work if you download the official tarball from Download?

I am having the same issue as well. I used official tar and did not change anything

I am using Siteground and have the same issue, did you manage to resolve the problem?

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It turns out that installing Mediawiki manually solved this issue. Not only does VE work, but it also works with short URLS!

Hello, there! I’m trying to get short urls to work on my wiki AND get visual editor to work. I’ve been having problems with the latter task. Here’s my setup:

Wiki Link Shared hosting, Siteground

Apache/Nginx Compatible Server

«> «> «> «> «> «> «>

My installation is nested in a /w folder, and I have an .htaccess file in the root folder (public_html) where the /w folder is installed. Here’s my .htaccess:

# main rewrite rule

# Redirect / to Main Page

And I added the following snippet to the LocalSettings.php:

As a result, I went from getting wiki.example.com/index.php?title=Main_Page to wiki.example.com/Main_Page .

I followed the manual here with hopes of getting short URLs to work, which it looks as though it works. The problem is, when I enabled VisualEditor and attempted to edit the main page, for example, I get the following error:

Error contacting the REST/Parsoid Base server

I’ve consulted the troubleshooting section of the VE page for this error, but I’m getting nothing.

Could I request help on this matter? Thanks a ton!

bump, still having no such luck with solving this.

I’ve added a dummy account with editing permissions so that anyone willing to help can observe the problem directly.

Ah, disregard my comment, I think we already spoke about this in a different thread.

Oh yeah no worries!

Bump again. I could really use some help!

Just thinking some of the other examples in that might help (like kghbln’s example maybe, in the absence of a better suggestion from a help desk person I mean—hopefully someone can help you out soon!)?

You should be getting (and going to) a url like (for viewing a page) wiki.example.com/wiki/Main_Page and (for editing a page) you should be getting (and going to) wiki.example.com/w/. I.e., make sure you yourself are going to and trying the new URL structure, not the old one?—I’m sure you probably already know that, if so please ignore. your example just made this thought cross my mind since I tested the wrong URL at first without thinking.

Oh hey @ TiltedCerebellum! Thanks for passing these along; I actually ran into the phabricator bug report when I was running around! It definitely seems like we have the same issue just about. I can’t thank you enough for your time!

So just to clarify, what exactly do you mean when you mention New vs. Old URL structure? I’m guessing it’s wiki.example.com/wiki/main_pag e vs. wiki.example.com/wiki/index.php. but I wanted to double check!

From what I see, for some reason the edit page calls wiki.twistedfates.net/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&veaction=edit but apparently redirects to wiki.twistedfates.net/wiki/Main_Page?veaction=edit , and that’s where I run smack into a brick wall.

I tried changing the /wiki/ to /w/ and got a 404.

Yep, I was referring to wiki.example.com/wiki/Main_Page , apologies, I was confused by this bit: «As a result, I went from getting wiki.example.com/index.php?title=Main_Page to wiki.example.com/Main_Page » and just wanted to make sure you were now trying it at: wiki.example.com/wiki/Main_Page which yes, of course you were, silly me. If it was a 404, perhaps your htaccess rules weren’t quite right yet (I wish I wasn’t lousy at understanding these lol). I’m getting Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 500) rather than a 404 error when accessing that edit url. What (if any) additional VE config lines do you have set in LocalSettings.php other than just enabling VE with: wfLoadExtension( ‘VisualEditor’ ); ?—Now that VE is built in, usually that’s all that’s required with the setup.

Also, did you install using MediaWiki’s official release and instructions or was it from an automated installer provided by your hosting provider (siteground I think looking at whois info)?

I’m not sure if this info is up to date given the current version and integration with 1.35 but it’s worth a look: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor#Troubleshooting

Heya, thanks for getting back to me!

Sorry for the confusion! That’s weird you got a 404, I’m still getting a 500 when I try the edit link!

I don’t have any VE configuration lines aside from enabling it.

It was an automated installer provided by my hosting provider; do you think I should try a fresh install from the site itself?

Thanks for the link!

@ TiltedCerebellum, I think I figured it out. I installed Mediawiki from the site itself instead of going through my provider and it looks like all those permission issues and other things aren’t an issue!

Thank you, friend! I really appreciate your help!

Yep, this turns out to be the cause pretty frequently, unfortunately. Always better to use the official MW files and installation instructions. Glad you got it working! Yw and cheers!

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If relevant, here are my installed packages (related to apache or php) via APT on this server:

apache2-bin/stable,now 2.4.38-3+deb10u4 armhf [Installiert,automatisch]
apache2-data/stable,now 2.4.38-3+deb10u4 all [Installiert,automatisch]
apache2-utils/stable,now 2.4.38-3+deb10u4 armhf [Installiert,automatisch]
apache2/stable,now 2.4.38-3+deb10u4 armhf [installiert]
php-common/stable,now 2:69 all [Installiert,automatisch]
php-curl/stable,now 2:7.3+69 all [installiert]
php-gd/stable,now 2:7.3+69 all [installiert]
php-intl/stable,now 2:7.3+69 all [installiert]
php-mbstring/stable,now 2:7.3+69 all [installiert]
php-mysql/stable,now 2:7.3+69 all [installiert]
php-xml/stable,now 2:7.3+69 all [installiert]
php7.3-cli/stable,now 7.3.19-1

deb10u1 armhf [Installiert,automatisch]
php7.3-common/stable,now 7.3.19-1

deb10u1 armhf [Installiert,automatisch]
php7.3-curl/stable,now 7.3.19-1

deb10u1 armhf [Installiert,automatisch]
php7.3-gd/stable,now 7.3.19-1

deb10u1 armhf [Installiert,automatisch]
php7.3-intl/stable,now 7.3.19-1

deb10u1 armhf [Installiert,automatisch]
php7.3-json/stable,now 7.3.19-1

deb10u1 armhf [Installiert,automatisch]
php7.3-mbstring/stable,now 7.3.19-1

deb10u1 armhf [Installiert,automatisch]
php7.3-mysql/stable,now 7.3.19-1

deb10u1 armhf [Installiert,automatisch]
php7.3-opcache/stable,now 7.3.19-1

deb10u1 armhf [Installiert,automatisch]
php7.3-readline/stable,now 7.3.19-1

deb10u1 armhf [Installiert,automatisch]
php7.3-xml/stable,now 7.3.19-1

deb10u1 armhf [Installiert,automatisch]

I did some more investigation: The affected server has no TLS activated (http only). On another server (this time TLS enforced and also reachable from the internet) I have absolutely no problem installing the VisualEditor.
I have no other instance I could use for further testing which setting exactly causes the VisualEditor on the first instance to fail.

Even more investigation: I found out that the working server had more php-packages installed. After installing them on the first one VisualEditor is running 🙂 The necessary must be among them:
sudo apt install php-bz2 php-pear php-zip php-bcmath php-gmp php-pspell php-tidy

I have no clue which one was the missing one, but that should be pointed out in the install documentation.

Running on a server with all libs installed Chris was mentioning, we still run into the 500 errors. The weird thing is, this seems to be a native editor issue — not a misconfigured parsoid instance.

While VE set as the default editor and trying to edit an existing page, we run into a 500 error with «Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 500)». This is without any prerequierments or limitations in regards to text or code length of the particular site in question.

Vice-versa, when trying to CREATE a site, the VE works flawlessly and saves without errors. Trying to edit the very same newly created page, we run into the error 500 again. So my best guess is, that the implementation for the edit functions doesn´t work as an isolated error.

All those Wikis with not very tech-savyy users or webmasters, or sitting on servers without root access and/or are using a one-click-install instance of MW — in mind , I feel it appropriate that the priority of this issue has to be escalated, so those wikis are operational even for those (which will cover the majority of all wikis out there, run by private individuals).

Please note also, that hosters providing customers with one-click-applications by now only provide the last major second point releases, i.e. 1.35.0 — but not subsequent releases like 1.35.01. Providing a hotfix wold be appreciated and an inclusion into the 1.35.0 repository is needed.

Does this URL work on your wiki: http://example.com/rest.php/example.com/v3/page/html/Main_Page/12?redirect=false when you replace:

• example.com with your wiki domain name,
• Main_Page with your wiki main page (possibly different if your language is not English or if you customised it),
• 12 with the revision ID of your main page (you can find it on the main page > toolbox (“Tools” section) > link “Permanent link”, it is the parameter oldid in the URL).

The VisualEditor is internally calling this page, so if this is not working the whole VisualEditor cannot work.

If this URL does not work, make sure:

• the Apache configuration allows to call the file rest.php (this file is quite new, and really used since 1.35),
• you have something like AllowEncodedSlashes NoDecode in your Apache config, at least for the wiki domain (see VE documentation).

regarding the given task, the answer is no, the link doesn´t work:

My setting:
CentOS 7, PHP 7.4.16, FPM served by Apache, AllowEncodedSlashes NoDecode as domain directive and calls to rest.php are allowed by default.

Given your last error message, it seems the RestRoutes are not loaded, you can try to force them with the following line in LocalSettings.php:

(although it should be automatically done with MW 1.35, at the contrary of MW 1.36.0-alpha ( T266970 ))

wfLoadExtension( ‘Parsoid’, ‘vendor/wikimedia/parsoid/extension.json’ );

Would have been an easy fix, Seb, but unfortunal that´s a turn & burn. It still throws the error on edit, but works flawless on create.

To narrow the error down:
please can everyone confirm, that this error is isolated for EDITING existing pages and — vice-versa — the VE works flawlessly while CREATING and SAVING new pages without errors. At least this could exclude, that Parsoid isn´t invoked correctly via LocalSettings.php .

With the narrowing create=working/exiting=non-working, I remind others had this issue. I found T263928 , D3nnis3n had this issue (warning: on the mentionned issue, a lot of people had similar-but-not-exactly-the-same issues and it is difficult to follow, so strictly read D3nnis3n). If I understand correctly, he fixed it using nginx. But perhaps you can try this: T263928#6528000 (the mentionned 403 issue is perhaps/probably because of cookies in a private wiki).

Generally speaking, these issues lies on the webserver config, so strictly check the rewrite rules to be sure 1/ the rest.php is correctly called, 2/ correctly retrieve the PATH_INFO, 3/ (minor) correctly interpret the slashes encoding (else titles with slashes could not work in the VisualEditor). Also be sure your DNS domain name is internally resolved (given there are internal HTTP calls).

If you need more help, you should publish relevant logs (Apache error logs), specific Apache config (all Apache config: general + htaccess) + MW config you have (wgVirtualRestConfig, wgServer, VisualEditor/Parsoid relevant config) so that I (or others) can reproduce the environement.

If the following issue should be an separate bug report, please tell me!

I want to chip in because I am encountering the some related problem with HTTP 500 when trying to edit on Supages of Pages.
We have a Mediawiki 1.35.2 running and I installed the VisualEditor Extension.’
Info: I have deactivated the extension in the meantime, for testing purposes I can enable it again if you are interested to test it.

At first I encounted the HTTP 404 Error which I fixed with the Apache Config from this post: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T270377#6952019

Afterwards HTTP 500 Error happened and I could trace it to the cause.
Scenario: You edit at Subpage of a page. Real Example: https://metalab.at/wiki/Netzwerk/Adressen

Following request happens from Mediawiki:

with URL encoding decoded:

When I read your post Seb35 ( https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T270377#6952019 ) I understood the naming scheme of the endpoint.

While fiddeling with the endpoint according to the seen HTTP Request in the screen above I realised that the Parsoid Endpoint is broken or at least have a totally strange behavior:

So I encountered at minimum 3 different behaviors on that endpoint:

1. if you just call it with a existing top page (Example https://metalab.at/wiki/rest.php/metalab.at/v3/page/html/Laser/) it will redirect to the latest revision ->https://metalab.at/wiki/rest.php/metalab.at/v3/page/html/Laser/70434

1. if you just call it with a existing top page with some random existing revision of any page (Example https://metalab.at/wiki/rest.php/metalab.at/v3/page/html/Laser/70694 — revision is of this page: https://metalab.at/wiki/index.php?title=Netzwerk/Adressen&oldid=70694 ) it will show you the HTML Rendering of that Page, whose revision you used.

1. When calling a subpage, it will ignore it and just show the parent page:

Both will show the following:

This also shows the problem , when subpages have just numbers:
e.g. https://metalab.at/wiki/Laser/2020

Calling those page on the API will be interpreted as revision 2020 in the api logic: https://metalab.at/wiki/rest.php/metalab.at/v3/page/html/Laser/2020

Hope that helps,
Hetti

With the narrowing create=working/exiting=non-working, I remind others had this issue. I found T263928 , D3nnis3n had this issue (warning: on the mentionned issue, a lot of people had similar-but-not-exactly-the-same issues and it is difficult to follow, so strictly read D3nnis3n). If I understand correctly, he fixed it using nginx. But perhaps you can try this: T263928#6528000 (the mentionned 403 issue is perhaps/probably because of cookies in a private wiki).

I have had the same problem on 3 different wikis on 2 servers. On server 1 creating pages by VE worked, editing failed with 500. On server 2 no problems with 1.35.

It seems that both servers have different write rights for /tmp.

Changing $wgTmpDirectory to «$IP . ‘/images/temp’;» solved the issue. To be honest as I am not a Linux guru I don’t know if this has any sideeffects.

Edit: now I found T268420 which seems to be the problem on my fresh installations: A shared server and I have no idea how many wiki by other customere are hosted there.

I’m running MW 1.35 from the Debian Bullseye repository and I was getting the «Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 500)» error. None of the suggestions above worked for me. However, I found that changing line 26 of
/usr/share/mediawiki/vendor/wikimedia/parsoid/src/Wt2Html/Grammar.php from

fixed the error.

I’m getting this issue as well. Oddly enough, it’s only when editing pages which include a template. The Visual Editor will work fine on any page without a template, or a page I’m currently adding a template to and haven’t saved yet. Using the source editor to remove a template from a page will allow me to successfully jump into the Visual Editor and continue editing. Saving the page without a template will allow me to use the Visual Editor on subsequent edits. Swapping back and forth between the Visual and Source editors when removing an offending template, without saving the page, will eventually start to spit out HTTP 500 errors again.

Additional information:

• The exact error message is «Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 500)» which pops up when loading the Visual Editor.
• My wiki is a fresh installation set to private.
• HTTP traffic is redirected to HTTPS and I have a valid cert.
• Apache 2.4.52
• PHP 8.1.3
• MySQL 8.0.28
• MediaWiki 1.37.1
• MediaWiki installed in /var/www/ with no other wikis on the same domain.
• Checking /. /rest.php/. /Main_Page/. with a private browser returns a 403 error «rest-read-denied»
• Checking the same URL while logged in redirects to a stripped down text version of Main_Page without a side bar.

I’m getting this issue as well. Oddly enough, it’s only when editing pages which include a template. The Visual Editor will work fine on any page without a template, or a page I’m currently adding a template to and haven’t saved yet. .

Confirm. I also get an error when editing a page if a template is used. Without templates, the page is edited well.
Also, the page is not edited if there is a line

When deleting templates and this line, the page is edited normally.
When entering

Mediawiki 1.35.5 + nginx 1.18.0 + PHP 8.1.3 (fpm-fcgi) + ubuntu 18.04.

@Socksoff @Chapenkov11
Could both of you please try with a PHP version below 8?
I do have the exact same issue now, but only since I updated to PHP 8.
When I revert back to 7.4, it’s gone and everything works.

If this is the case for you as well, that might help people find out what the issue is. (It might be a different one than the OP has with PHP 7.3)

(I happen to be the guy that @Seb35 mentioned above that got the original issue fixed, but since I updated to 8.0 and 8.1 I have the same issue as mentioned here. Downgrading fixes it immediately.)

@Socksoff @Chapenkov11
Could both of you please try with a PHP version below 8?
I do have the exact same issue now, but only since I updated to PHP 8.
When I revert back to 7.4, it’s gone and everything works.

Thank you very much! Installed php7.4-fpm, the error disappeared. Now the pages that previously caused the error are being edited.

Glad to hear it worked, now I’m hoping for the bigger brains that might have an idea why PHP 8+ breaks this.

I’m running MW 1.35 from the Debian Bullseye repository and I was getting the «Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 500)» error. None of the suggestions above worked for me. However, I found that changing line 26 of
/usr/share/mediawiki/vendor/wikimedia/parsoid/src/Wt2Html/Grammar.php from

fixed the error.

FYI: I found this error occurs if MediaWiki is build from REL1_35 branch with composer and the —classmap-authoritative flag.

I’ve been running PHP 7.4.29 from install, but have been getting the same issue. VisualEditor works flawlessly when creating pages, but throws a 500 error when editing existing ones. I tried adding $wgGroupPermissions[‘*’][‘writeapi’] = true; at the end of my LocalSettings.php at one point and thought it was fixed because I was able to edit a page at first, but immediately after moving off that page VisualEditor refused to work again, on either the Main Page or the page I had just tried to edit.

Later, I added wfLoadExtension( ‘Parsoid’, ‘vendor/wikimedia/parsoid/extension.json’ ); as well, thought it might be fixed again, but the issue persisted. Surprisingly I got VisualEditor to open several times when editing both my one wiki page and the Main Page this time, but I’ve removed those two lines now to see if that inconsistent functioning might be the case even without them.

I’m running all this locally on Windows, and installed all the prerequisite software with XAMPP. The only further manual configuration I did was install APCu, uncomment extension=intl and add extension=apcu in php.ini, and add wfLoadExtension( ‘VisualEditor’ ); to the end of LocalSettings.php to actually activate VisualEditor. And add the file fragment suggested in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Security#Upload_security to httpd.conf to get rid of the security warning, adjusted to my file structure.

Even more investigation: I found out that the working server had more php-packages installed. After installing them on the first one VisualEditor is running 🙂 The necessary must be among them:
sudo apt install php-bz2 php-pear php-zip php-bcmath php-gmp php-pspell php-tidy

I have no clue which one was the missing one, but that should be pointed out in the install documentation.

I registered specifically to comment on this!
Thank you so much, you’re a lifesaver.

I had this problem and installing php-bcmath and php7.4-bcmath solved the issue for me!

MediaWiki v1.37.2
PHP v7.4.28

As of 1.38.1 Visual Editor works correctly with PHP 8.1, looks resolved.

Having this issue in a fresh 1.38.1, see https://wikivideos.org/wiki/Main_Page?veaction=edit
I also had it in 1.37 (updated to 1.38.1 hoping it would fix itself but didn’t).
The issue doesn’t occur on two 1.35 wikis I have on the same server (https://sophivorus.com and https://mediawiki.solutions)
I’m running PHP 7.4.12 and identical setup everywhere, AFAICT.
Page creation works fine, the issue happens only when editing existing pages.
Looking at https://wikivideos.org/info.php it’s pretty clear I have php-bz2 php-zip php-bcmath php-gmp php-pspell php-tidy
But php-pear is disabled. It feels very unlikely this be the cause since my 1.35 wikis work fine without it but I’ll report back when I manage to enable it.
Also I can’t switch to PHP 8.1 to test if this fixes the issue, I’m afraid.

Even more investigation: I found out that the working server had more php-packages installed. After installing them on the first one VisualEditor is running 🙂 The necessary must be among them:
sudo apt install php-bz2 php-pear php-zip php-bcmath php-gmp php-pspell php-tidy

I have no clue which one was the missing one, but that should be pointed out in the install documentation.

I registered specifically to comment on this!
Thank you so much, you’re a lifesaver.

I had this problem and installing php-bcmath and php7.4-bcmath solved the issue for me!

MediaWiki v1.37.2
PHP v7.4.28

I just wanted to confirm that including php extensions also fixed the problem for me; to be more precise, the behavior I was having was that I was able to edit NEW pages but not existing ones, I tried every single suggestion I found out there until this actually fixed my problem.

MediaWiki 1.35.2
PHP 7.4.28

So, thank you very much @Chris_ws3 and @628071 .

Suddenly my Visual Editor on my private wiki gives:

The VE was working until today when this issue cropped up. I have tried all the solutions suggested above and none works.

I can create a page via VE without a problem but I cannot edit the same page that has been newly created using VE.

Running Cent OS 8, Mediawiki 1.37.1, php7.4.3 & 10.3.28-MariaDB

As a developer I can’t understand how a so diffuse problem still has a so unclear message.

In my case the REAL error isn’t 500 but what’s behind it and seems to be:

Having this issue in a fresh 1.38.1, see https://wikivideos.org/wiki/Main_Page?veaction=edit
I also had it in 1.37 (updated to 1.38.1 hoping it would fix itself but didn’t).
The issue doesn’t occur on two 1.35 wikis I have on the same server (https://sophivorus.com and https://mediawiki.solutions)
I’m running PHP 7.4.12 and identical setup everywhere, AFAICT.
Page creation works fine, the issue happens only when editing existing pages.
Looking at https://wikivideos.org/info.php it’s pretty clear I have php-bz2 php-zip php-bcmath php-gmp php-pspell php-tidy
But php-pear is disabled. It feels very unlikely this be the cause since my 1.35 wikis work fine without it but I’ll report back when I manage to enable it.
Also I can’t switch to PHP 8.1 to test if this fixes the issue, I’m afraid.

However the issue remains. It can be reproduced at any time by visiting https://wikivideos.org/wiki/Main_Page?veaction=edit

My solution: I followed this thread and the very last comment (scroll down to «School4schools» from 12 July 2022 12:45 PM) contains the solution:

• open your LocalSettings.php file
• add the following line at the very bottom:

• in your images folder, create a subfolder temp and set permissions to at least 755 (if created with root, set it to 777)

Now you should be able to edit your posts again.

Original Post:

I just checked out the MediaWiki software yesterday and successfully setup a wiki on one domain. On another domain, however, I was not able to edit pages later. Same behavior as mentioned

100 times before:

• Create new page: No problem, VisualEditor opens instantly
• Edit an existing page: Visual Editor fires «Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 500)»

Both wikis are hosted on the same server under different domains. So all settings are basically the same, except for SSL certificates and databases. To investigate this issue a little deeper, I created two more wikis, each on the same domain as before but with another subdomain. And again, editing pages works for one wiki, but not for the other.

For all people still having the Error 500 with VisualEditor: Can you please check whether your wiki domain contains a hyphen (dash) character, namely — ? In my case, the wikis only work with alphanumeric domain names.

(Of course, the issue could have to do something with the domain specific server settings as well. But I doubt there would be any significant difference, for I run all domains on the same server and use identical configurations wherever I can. )

By the way, I am a web developer as well and agree with @hyperreview that such a nasty problem (or should we say — obvious bug?) should not occur after so many years without a satisfying error message or general solution.

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A lot of people have the same error for many different reasons, so, after trying a composer update, I’ve tried to investigate it starting from the browser and reconstructing step by step what is happening. It’s really hard for me and I would really appreciate help from a PHP Developer!

From Chrome Developer Tools I could find the Ajax request in the background and the called url on the server

By playing with the url I realized that changing the action name returned a different error code, which let me understand that the current call is just a generic API in the middle between the browser and whatever is «apierror-visualeditor-docserver-http»

The Ajax call

{mysite}
/ api.php
? action=visualeditor
& paction=parse
&page=Cosa_c%27%C3%A8_da_fare%3F

Example
https://www.tematichedigenere.com/api.php?action=visualeditor&paction=parse&page=Cosa_c%27%C3%A8_da_fare%3F

The response from the Ajax call

The serverside call to rest api

Then I can see from the Apache server’s log that the api page contacts the following url (returning 500)

GET 
//rest.php/
{mywebsiteurl}
/v3/page/html/
Cosa_c%27%C3%A8_da_fare%3F/27246
?redirect=false
&stash=true    
example    
"GET //rest.php/www.tematichedigenere.com/v3/page/html/Cosa_c%27%C3%A8_da_fare%3F/27246?redirect=false&stash=true HTTP/1.0" 500 5621 "-" "VisualEditor-MediaWiki/1.38.2"

Another example of log (returning 404)

{an IP} - - 
[04/Dec/2022:14:16:12 +0000] 
"POST 
/rest.php/
{mywebsiteurl}/v3
/transform/html/to/wikitext
/Riflessioni_sulla_sessualizz._femm._collegate_-_bozza%2Fprova 
HTTP/1.0" 
404 
467 
"-" 
"VisualEditor-MediaWiki/1.38.2 X-Middleton/1"

Maybe the initial double / is wrong?

Anyway if I call the uri directly from my browser https://tematichedigenere.com/rest.php/www.tematichedigenere.com/v3/page/html/Cosa_c%27%C3%A8_da_fare%3F/27246?redirect=false&stash=true

The server does a antirobot check but I’m not sure that was the problem.

I’ve realized that the 500 error code hides a more complex real error which is returned by accessing directly the url from the log.

Comment Actions

I would like to try out the new PHP Parsoid backend, so I did the following:

git clone --depth 1 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/mediawiki/core.git --branch wmf/1.35.0-wmf.34 wiki
cd wiki
composer.phar update --no-dev
cd skins
git submodule update --recursive --init Vector
cd extensions
for ext in CategoryTree Cite CiteThisPage CodeEditor ConfirmEdit Gadgets ImageMap InputBox Interwiki LocalisationUpdate MultimediaViewer Nuke OATHAuth PageImages ParserFunctions PdfHandler Poem Renameuser ReplaceText Scribunto SpamBlacklist SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi TextExtracts TitleBlacklist VisualEditor WikiEditor; do git submodule update --recursive --init $ext; done
git clone --depth 1 https://github.com/wikimedia/parsoid Parsoid
git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/mediawiki/services/parsoid --branch v0.12.0-a15 Parsoid
(cd Parsoid; git submodule update --init --recursive;)
cd ../maintenance
php update.php

Further, I’ve added the Parsoid config from here to LocalSettings.php.

Everything works after this, except when editing with VisualEditor I get a 500 server error.

The url in the wgVirtualRestConfigis simply set to https://mydomain.com/wiki/rest.php and domain to https://mydomain.com, as recommended.

When I visit https://mydomain.com/wiki/rest.php/mydomain.com/v3/page/html/Hauptseite I get a fatal exception of type «Error».

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Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server: http-request-error

# Disable reading by anonymous users
$wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false;
# But allow them to read e.g., these pages:
$wgWhitelistRead =  [ "Main Page", "Help:Contents" ];
# Allow Jobs to be run
$wgWhitelistRead = [ "Special:RunJobs" ];

# Requires that a user be registered before they can edit.
$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false;

# Prevent new user registrations except by sysops
$wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false;

if ( !isset( $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] ) OR
     in_array($_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'],
       [
         $_SERVER['SERVER_ADDR'],
         $_SERVER['HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR'], # if MediaWiki behind reverse proxy
         '127.0.0.1',
         'localhost',
       ]
     ) 
   ) {
  $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = true;
  $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = true;
  $wgGroupPermissions['*']['writeapi'] = true;
}

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• Hello —

  Hopefully someone can help me out here. I am trying to get the Visual Editor extension to work.

  1. I have downloaded the extension file (although from what I read in the docs it should be included after version 1.35) and extracted it in /app/data/extensions . I see the folder installed in the correct location which I assume is good.

  2. Ownership of the file already appears to be set to www-data by default.

  3. I added the line wfLoadExtension( ‘VisualEditor’ ); in /app/data/LocalSettings.php .

  When I restart the app and try to edit anything in mediawiki I get the following error: Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 404)

  Does anyone know what I need to change in my configuration to get the Visual Editor to work? I’m no good with HTML so the editor is a huge help!

• @jtippetts Searching a bit, looks like https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268277 might be the issue. Specifically this comment — https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268277#7621030

  Can you please try setting $wgServer = "https://wiki.domain.com" in your /app/data/LocalSettings.php and see if that helps ? If so, I can fix the package because currently we are not settings https there.

• @girish said in Help Needed: Installing VisualEditor extension.:

  $wgServer = «https://wiki.domain.com»

  This didn’t seem to work. After adding the suggested line I tried to restart the app but it wouldn’t restart. Once I removed the line again the app starts just fine.

  The Phabricator page you sent is referring to HTTP 415; the error I get is HTTP 404. Also, if it makes a difference, I am getting the error as soon as I try to edit a page; not after making an edit like this report suggests. When I click the edit link in mediawiki it doesn’t even load the visual editor at all.

• @girish Also I just noticed that the link you sent suggests that I use the line: wfLoadExtensions(array(‘VisualEditor’));

  This is different that what I have in my config… what does the «array» part in the line above mean?

• @jtippetts said in Help Needed: Installing VisualEditor extension.:

  This didn’t seem to work. After adding the suggested line I tried to restart the app but it wouldn’t restart. Once I removed the line again the app starts just fine.

  Just to double check: did you replace it with your domain and also did you add a semicolon at the end ? Since this is PHP, it should be like:

      $wgServer = "https://realwiki.domain.com";
  

• @girish So I copied it exactly like that and now I get this error: Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server: (curl error: 60) SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK

  

• @jtippetts Can you try with the latest package?

  Also, as you pointed out, VisualEditor is already bundled inside mediawiki. There is nothing to install. All you have to do is put this line in /app/data/LocalSettings.php:

  wfLoadExtension( 'VisualEditor' );
  

  Then, when you refresh, you will see two entries in the top bar — Edit and Edit Source

  

  Clicking Edit, show this popup:

  

  Click on ‘Start Editing’ and you can just edit away:

  

• @girish Should probably make that the default

• @robi the docs are so sparse, it’s not clear to me why it’s not loaded by default. Clearly, they have not enabled it for a reason despite pre-bundling it with mediawiki itself…

• @girish I think that’s an assumption, and one which we can remedy by making it nicer, the Cloudron way.

• @girish I’m just getting back to this… it’s strange, I have just the default settings in my LocalSettings.php file. The only thing I have added is the line: wfLoadExtension( ‘VisualEditor’ );

  Unfortunately I’m still getting this error:

  I would normally just uninstall and reinstall the app but I already have a lot of content in there…

• @jtippetts Did you update the app package to the latest version? I only pushed this out yesterday with the fix to wgServer. If you go to the Update view, it should show the package version as v1.17.0

• @girish Yes, I believe I am on the most current update.
  

• @jtippetts That looks uptodate.

  I tried a fresh install on our demo server https://my.demo.cloudron.io (username/password is cloudron/cloudron). Can you try the install at https://wiki.demo.cloudron.io/ (username/password is cloudron/cloudron).

  Maybe you can compare the configs which I have above and what you have in your setup to see if we miss anything obvious ?

• @girish Everything on the test server worked perfectly and all of my settings appeared to be identical. I decided to shut down the entire server and reboot it. After the machine started back up it seems that everything is now working as expected. For future reference do I need to reboot my server after Cloudron updates? Seems like normally I get a notification in Cloudron telling me when the system needs to be re-booted…? Anyways, I think everything is working now. I really appreciate all of your help! Seriously, I love Cloudron!

• @jtippetts said in Help Needed: Installing VisualEditor extension.:

  For future reference do I need to reboot my server after Cloudron updates?

  No, app updates don’t require a reboot. Not entirely sure what the reboot did

• @girish Turns out I spoke too soon. I am still getting an error. I found a workound from someone that had the exact same issue. Here is a link to a possible solution:

  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:W2fgz5rywc86hciu

  Unfortunately, I can’t decipher what needs to be done. As soon as it starts talking about certificates it’s way over my head.

• @jtippetts I have to check your instance to see why it’s not working. Can you write to us at support@cloudron.io ?

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User-agent:Android-10

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Richboyofsocialmedia&action=edit

Richboyofsocialmedia (talk) 13:09, 2 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/79.0.3945.88 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Kharfak?action=edit

the name is Kharfaq Lake

Saleemullah pPasha (talk) 14:41, 5 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/64.0.3282.140 Safari/537.36 Edge/18.17763

HRE kyinyot

62.16.165.158 (talk) 20:37, 20 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• The sandbox in question is User:Gallaz63/sandbox. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:38, 21 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mountaineers JC (talk) 04:27, 23 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mountaineers JC, is this a recent problem? The servers are unhappy right now. You might try again in an hour or two. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:58, 24 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi there, I wish I had more examples of this, but I keep seeing, in BLP articles, blank |death_date= and |death_place= parameters being added by default (I assume) by the Visual Editor. An example here. Is this by design? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:45, 22 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Cyphoidbomb, those parameters are added because someone marked them as either «suggested» or «required» in the template’s TemplateData. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:57, 24 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Whatamidoing (WMF): Hi there, I appreciate the explanation. Do we need these parameters added by default to every biographical article? They could be there unused anywhere from 0-100 years. Seems unnecessary unless a person dies. Should I ask elsewhere? I’m not a big fan of VisualEditor making AWB-like actions on the backs of unsuspecting novice editors and I’ve reported similar issues before. Thanks and regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:20, 25 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That decision is entire under the control of local editors. Edit Template:Infobox person/doc#TemplateData if you want to change it. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 06:30, 25 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Whatamidoing (WMF): Thanks kindly. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:58, 26 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; CrOS x86_64 12607.58.0) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/79.0.3945.86 Safari/537.36

It won’t allow me to submit and publish changes. A message «Error Parsoid/RestBase Server HTTP 400» keeps popping out.

ShepBranson (talk) 21:06, 27 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/13.0.4 Safari/605.1.15

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bassie_f&veaction=editsource

Bassie f (talk) 00:37, 29 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; Trident/7.0; Touch; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E; Tablet PC 2.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Figbird/sandbox?action=edit

Newbie, question

Figbird (talk) 06:00, 29 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/79.0.3945.130 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/Sports/Sidebar&section=10&veaction=editsource&action=edit

Beodeutk (talk) 02:12, 4 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:72.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/72.0

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadoc?action=edit
I keep getting the error message in my subject when I try to save my edits.

Taylwardii (talk) 06:44, 19 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

~~I am having this problem too. User:Jaygg

Кориснички агент: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:73.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/73.0

URL адреса: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Church,_Lazarevac?action=edit

Prikaz lokacije ispod slike pokazuje Burovo kao lokaciju, a crkva je u samom centru Lazarevca

AlexitoSRB (talk) 11:35, 19 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:48.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/48.0

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Williams_(psychologist)?veaction=edit&section=3

I added two sentences about Dr. Williams’ Plan, while President of ABPsi, which helped many students get into graduate schools of psychology. I am working on linking the Plan to this wikipedia page. What would be the BEST and most permanent site to post the Plan for link connection?

RparkerWilliams!1 (talk) 14:02, 20 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Hewitt-Sperry Automatic Airplane article starts with a nested infobox,

{|{{Infobox Aircraft Begin
  |name = Hewitt-Sperry Automatic Airplane 
  |logo =
  |image = Hewitt-Sperry Automatic Airplane 1918.jpg
  |caption = Hewitt-Sperry Automatic Airplane in 1918
}}{{Infobox Aircraft Type
  |type = [[Missile]]
<!-- Other parameters here -->
  |variants with their own articles = 
}}|}

Changing the ending from:


}}|}


to


}}
|}


allows the VisualEditor to function.

Note that a similar malfunction with the desktop Wikipedia page rending showed the Hewitt-Sperry Automatic Airplane hover text as :

|} The Hewitt-Sperry Automatic Airplane was a ...

instead of

The Hewitt-Sperry Automatic Airplane was a ...

See the edit at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hewitt-Sperry_Automatic_Airplane&type=revision&diff=942045487&oldid=896091373

—Lent (talk) 07:18, 22 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_2) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/80.0.3987.122 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Senayat7/sandbox?action=edit

Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 400)

Senayat7 (talk) 22:19, 27 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/80.0.3987.122 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventotene?action=edit
When trying to use CITE a blank box drops down and remains on the page.

IslandVita (talk) 16:55, 29 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2406:B400:D1:82E4:DC22:9873:25A6:7D36 (talk) 10:31, 2 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/80.0.3987.132 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Au.andrea/sandbox?action=edit
Is it possible to remove this info box?

Au.andrea (talk) 04:16, 10 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/80.0.3987.106 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Omda4wady?action=edit

I can not add no wiki tag

Omda4wady (talk) 11:05, 23 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Omda4wady, are use using the Visual Editor of the code editor. If you’re using the Visual Editor, just press X or escape when the popup appears and the text will be nowikied automatically. If you’re using the code editor, you can wrap the text in <nowiki>...</nowiki>. – BrandonXLF (talk) 23:38, 10 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Elpitts (talk) 17:42, 10 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the note, Elpitts. I’m sorry that you ran into this problem. Server errors are not your fault, and there’s not much that you can do about them. Usually, if you wait a while (usually a few minutes, but it could be longer), it will start working again. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/80.0.3987.149 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Serbia&action=edit&section=3

Xuexu (talk) 19:42, 20 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/80.0.3987.149 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_paintings_by_Johannes_Vermeer&action=edit
I wish to print out this page for further reference

Janitaly (talk) 10:26, 23 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Janitaly, printing happens by your browser… menu File->Print. Key combination Ctrl-P (Windows) or Cmd-P (MacOS), or the «Print» link in the left bar of the website. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:17, 23 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/80.0.3987.149 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranger_(Camus_novel)?action=edit

The numbering for the citations on this page should be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc., but instead it’s displayed as 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, etc.. The first «2» is cited in a block quote, so perhaps it’s being «ignored» by the VisualEditor’s counter for that reason.

Beaker Bytes (talk) 22:07, 23 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/80.0.3987.149 Safari/537.36 Edg/80.0.361.69

Currently, Republic of Korea and Japan is in dispute of naming issue. Please correct the name both; East sea and Sea of Japan

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_of_Japan?action=edit

Tim Ko Gangbaek (talk) 06:32, 27 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Gbk1004, please use the article talkpages for the respective articles for such concerns, and also check the archives of these talkpages for previous discussions and information as this question has been repeatedly discussed in the past. Thank you. GermanJoe (talk) 06:51, 27 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_13_6) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/13.1 Safari/605.1.15

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Southpaw20/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1&preload=Template%3AUser+sandbox%2Fpreload

Stopped being able to cite references. This empty box appears each time. Also the reference section of document disappeared.

Southpaw20 (talk) 23:54, 30 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I was trying to create a page — Ishi Ozalla, but I keep getting error contacting the parsoid/RESETBase server (HTTP 400) at the end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikemunachii (talk • contribs) 19:10, 1 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/80.0.3987.149 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&preload=Template%3AAfc+preload%2Fdraft&editintro=Template%3AAfC+draft+editintro&title=Draft:Hermann_Hess_Helfenstein&create=Create+new+article+draft

Dears: It is not possible to upload any Images. Please¿What Could Happen with this Biography?
Thanks for support.
Roland Hess

200.104.134.44 (talk) 23:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_11_6) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/80.0.3987.149 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Georgina_Downer?veaction=editsource

I was editing the first ref, attempting to change cite web to cite news, but with the cursor just after the b of web, backspacing and typing news did nothing visually, but then the https in the url was changed to newspps

Newystats (talk) 21:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikimedia group — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.115.125.84 (talk) 10:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:75.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/75.0

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bengali_language&action=edit&section=10

Simrin Khan (talk) 04:08, 15 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; CrOS x86_64 12739.111.0) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/80.0.3987.162 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:IPA&preload=Template%3ASubmit+an+edit+request%2Fpreload&action=edit&section=new&editintro=Template%3AEdit+template-protected%2Feditintro&preloadtitle=Template-protected+edit+request+on+22+April+2020&preloadparams%5B%5D=edit+template-protected&preloadparams%5B%5D=Template%3AIPA

14bauhr (talk) 18:11, 22 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don’t think that VE works on any talk page.—3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 20:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/81.0.4044.138 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:In_the_Custody_of_Strangers&section=new&veaction=editsource

The webserver is blocking me from choosing an edit summary Custody_of_Strangers.

Dhsert (talk) 22:22, 14 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Dhsert: This isn’t specific to 2017 wikitext editor; it also occurs by design in the new-section mode of Visual Editor, the «classic» textarea editor, and the mobile wikitext editor. Pelagic ( messages ) Z – (06:57 Sat 23, AEST) 20:57, 22 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Since this involves adding a new section to a Talk page, I’ve left a note ([1]) at the Talk Pages Project. I have also copied your feedback to mw:VisualEditor/Feedback#Can’t modify edit summary for new section in NWE [2]. — Pelagic ( messages ) Z – (07:33 Sat 23, AEST) 21:33, 22 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_3) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/80.0.3987.149 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanisation_in_India?action=edit

There is a spelling error in the title that I cannot fix

IanFreebern (talk) 00:47, 26 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, Ian, this page is for feedback on the Visual Editor (VE) and New Wikitext Editor (NWE), though «leave feedback on this software» mightn’t be clear in that regard. The best forum for questions like yours would be the Wikipedia:Teahouse, but I can answer here. Page titles are different from other headings in articles: changing them involves «moving» the page to a new name. Urbanisation rather than urbanization is the correct spelling outside USA, so that spelling change wouldn’t be supported by the community. (I blame Noah Webster.) We do have guidelines about when to use US English versus British/Commonwealth English; sorry I don’t have the relevant links handy. We do have a redirect from the alternate spelling Urbanization in India. Thanks for your interest in helping to improve spelling on Wikipedia, I’m sure you’ll find plenty of other spelling and grammar issues to fix! Please reply about whether you found this answer satisfactory. — Pelagic ( messages ) Z – (08:03 Sat 23, AEST) 22:03, 22 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/80.0.3987.163 Safari/537.36

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Palmer_(author)?action=edit

I am attempting to upload a photograph of Helen Palmer from her 1920 passport. It is a picture in the public domain. I am unsure why wikipedia will not let me upload it. It adheres to the guidelines.

Aazacz (talk) 20:13, 17 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Aazacz: the preferred process for public-domain images is to upload them to Wikimedia Commons, then insert a special File: link into the Wikipedia page to display the image. You can get more help at Wikipedia:Teahouse. Pelagic ( messages ) Z – (08:26 Sat 23, AEST) 22:26, 22 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 20:04, 17 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, 3family6, thanks for the detailed error report. I tried your example and confirm the behaviour (iOS Safari, both Vector and Timeless). I also couldn’t insert columns in this case. If I remove scope="col" rowspan="2" from all cells, then things return to normal. After adding back the rowspan on just one cell, it still seems okay. Have you seen this in other situations, or is it possibly isolated to cases where all cells in a row have rowspan? (I’m not a dev, just another Wikipedian.) Pelagic ( messages ) Z – (09:28 Sat 23, AEST) 23:28, 22 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think it’s particular to cells that have a row in rowspan, but I’m not sure. I can’t even reproduce this error all the time.—3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 23:42, 22 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Opinion_polling_for_the_2020_New_Zealand_general_election&action=edit&section=3

Hi all,

This article has an error in the tables. It fails to include the number of voters who were «Don’t know» or «Refused to answer». For the latest 1 News poll this was a massive 16%, so must be shown in the results table.

However, I’m a new Wikipedia user and don’t want to mess it up. I also don’t have the time to do it. How then, do I leave an action/suggestion in here?

Cheers
Geoff

Geoffnz1 (talk) 21:27, 25 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequoia_sempervirens?action=edit

When I click «Publish changes», nothing happens. The button blinks dark blue, but the page never saves. The pencil tool to switch to source editing is similarly disabled. I can reload the page, after clicking yes to the «discard your changes?» dialog, and the resulting page will helpfully reload my unsaved edits. But I still can’t save them. Firefox 74.0 under Win 7E (I edit all the time, never had this problem before.). Any suggestions? Thanks!

Gould363 (talk) 13:33, 26 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greifswald&action=edit&section=3

2607:9880:4068:98:4578:951:F5D8:74A1 (talk) 11:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Democrats?action=edit

I attempted to insert the group logo (a png file), and keep running up against limitations. Unclear how to proceed. Thanks for any help.

Jwhelan2020 (talk) 17:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think IP users should be able to use this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsla1337 (talk • contribs) 10:45, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, Tsla1337 / 1.Ayana! There are two entry points to Visual Editor (that I know of) that are disabled for IP editors on English Wikipedia:

1. Dual edit tabs for Edit source and Edit [visual].
2. Switching edit mode with the pencil icon.

(Actually, I didn’t realise before now that the second one was unavailable for IPs)

French Wikipédia has both, Japanese has single edit tab (wikitext) but you can switch. Enabling the switcher might be a proposal for Wikipedia:Village Pump. Pelagic ( messages ) Z – (19:13 Sat 23, AEST) 09:13, 23 May 2020 (UTC) — minor edit Pelagic ( messages ) Z – (19:20 Sat 23, AEST) 09:20, 23 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It was meant to be available (and has been for years), but they accidentally broke it earlier this year. A fix was just released. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:58, 18 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I tried to find the answer to this but wasn’t sure where to find it, or if there is one: Is there an estimate on how much longer it will be before Visual Editor can actually, properly work for table editing? I don’t even mean bug free, but usable to the point where it’s quicker and easier than markup editing. Example: How on earth do I create the following in VE?

Until that is doable, VE is next to useless in creating discography articles or new sections in discography articles. I’ve spent probably three hours at this point trying to figure it out, because I want to learn, but it’s getting extremely aggravating and frustrating.—3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 19:45, 17 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry for the delay. You can ping me when you have questions. This edit shows me adding a table like this one. You click in the empty places to add your content, select multiple cells when you want to merge them for rowspan and colspans. To set the background formatting, you go to the dropdown menu in the toolbar that usually says «Paragraph», and select either «content cell» (plain) or «header cell» (bold text and gray background). Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:07, 18 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isola_delle_Femmine?action=edit
I have only been editing in Visual mode. I have three references that have been flagged as circular as they reference other Wikipedia pages. I can change those three references to underlying references but I cannot change the type of reference, i.e. the template from a web citing to a book citing. I thought to delete the three and add new ones be again, I see no instructions to delete a reference.

One last question, in the READ mode the circular references have one set of numbers but in edit mode the reference numbers change with the circular tag. I guess I change what is flagged as circular even though the reference number is different?

JiminiVecchio (talk) 18:39, 21 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I want to remove previously entered edit summaries that the visual editor remembers (which is entered in the pop up after you press the blue «Publish changes» button. Where do I delete the previous edit summaries that are visible in the dropdown on the editing box? The help section has nothing on it, nor the help editing community central at Fandom. Outside the visual editor I can delete those by simply pressing delete (or swiping them away on mobile presumably). I wasn’t able to do this from within the Visual Editor. —Loginnigol (talk) 08:41, 29 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crossings_TV&oldid=962716746&action=edit

I keep getting a visual editing error while editing this page

Crossings TV (talk) 16:04, 29 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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i like school and it is fun and do you like school as well thank you

95.146.212.205 (talk) 15:45, 30 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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i love math and do you?

95.146.212.205 (talk) 15:46, 30 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Inserting tables using VE would be much more efficient if one could select the desired number of columns and rows similar to how one can when using source editing. — Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:16, 30 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9bastien_Haller?action=edit

I cannot do visual editing on this page. Please assist

Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 13:54, 3 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Disregard. I figured it out.

Shreerajtheauthor (talk) 13:59, 3 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vermabhishek/sandbox?action=edit&veswitched=1&oldid=966136096

Vermabhishek (talk) 09:43, 6 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pomnyun&action=edit&editintro=Template%3ABLP_editintro

Taeyeun (talk) 02:25, 10 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I came to the page Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Keyboard_shortcuts to see a full list of keyboard shortcuts available in VisualEditor. Especially the uncommon ones; the others (such as Ctrl+C) are more generally known and thus less important to mention on that page.

But I can see that not all keyboard shortcuts are mentioned. For instance, typing <ref will open an «Add a citation» dialog, and typing {{ will open an «Add a template» dialog. These are not mentioned. I came here to see other shortcuts like these. And I believe the primary place to place information about keyboard shortcuts would be on the page for keyboard shortcuts. Could someone who knows all the shortcuts add them to the page (or at least tell me where the list is so I can add them)? I only discover them by chance/accident with a few years in between, but I would like to actually see the entire list. —Jhertel (talk) 13:42, 13 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry for a late reply, Jhertel, I don’t normally monitor or visit this page. I have a list of magic character sequences compiled at mw:User:Pelagic/Mobile keyboard shortcuts for Visual Editor. Pelagic ( messages ) Z – (20:26 Sat 23, AEST) 10:26, 23 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you, Pelagic! Perfect! —Jhertel (talk) 12:02, 10 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:SMangal77/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1&preload=Template%3AUser+sandbox%2Fpreload

SMangal77 (talk) 18:31, 10 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mabel_May?action=edit
Here is the issue with the title:
The title of this article needs to be changed to Henrietta Mabel May because:

1) the woman’s name was not simply Mabel May but Henrietta Mabel May (indeed, per a biographer, Evelyn Walters, her nickname was «Henry»),

2) May’s life overlapped with that of an American painter named Mabel May Woodward (1877-1945). Contemporaries in the art world may have similar palettes, styles, & subject matter, as is the case with these two painters. In fact, the two paintings this article links to are actually & inaccurately those of the American artist Mabel May Woodward, not the Canadian artist Henrietta Mabel May, so you can see why it’s important to distinguish between the names as much & as accurately as possible.

I am explaining why this change needs to be made instead of simply making it because this editing mechanism does not allow me to make such a change. I am guessing that’s because not just the title but the file itself has to be changed to change the title. & if you change the file name, you probably will break some links, unless you have some kind of aliasing mechanism to help out. Nonetheless, in the interests of accuracy & to avoid the kinds of mistakes already made, I encourage whoever is empowered to do this to undertake the work required.

Clizjaxon (talk) 17:55, 12 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperGrid_(film)
i’m haviing trouble adding/editing a plot section….

A.payne32 (talk) 18:40, 12 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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67.70.90.145 (talk) 21:20, 13 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Superdupont.jpg?action=edit

Why not also use this image to illustrate the French version of the very same article? Fluide Glacial and co will never sue any of us! They are on the «same side»! 

Dr. Barbich’ (talk) 13:08, 15 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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How can I change the topic?

Famous People Of The World 1 (talk) 13:48, 21 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aliaksadr_Tsyrkunov&action=edit
Please, help me change the title, the name of artist is Aliaksandr.

Наста Свікрос (talk) 08:51, 1 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliaksadr_Tsyrkunov?action=edit
Калі ласка, дадайце літару N у імя мастака, правільнае напісанне імя: Aliaksandr.

Наста Свікрос (talk) 09:57, 1 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_art&action=edit&section=7

SeikilosLin (talk) 11:57, 4 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vans&action=edit&oldid=968643691fuhz udgjKYf jdfyht6r

2605:A000:1134:A12E:9522:9C2C:EA38:6CE6 (talk) 18:16, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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49.145.70.203 (talk) 12:28, 7 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Yes_(band)&action=edit

174.245.193.92 (talk) 23:33, 18 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans?action=edit

I can’t publish my changes or change to the source editor. The error message is «Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 404)».

Swiftestcat (talk) 08:52, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Swiftestcat. Can you try with another browser? Chrome 84 includes a major change on how cookies are handled between domains (by default, cookies, like session cookies, are not transferred between domains unless they are explicitly configured to be sent (SameSite attribute of the cookie). —NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 09:51, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi NicoV. How do I transfer my edits over to another browser? They’re currently saved on a tab on Chrome. Is there any way to save them to Wikipedia as a draft? Swiftestcat (talk) 09:54, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don’t know about that  —NicoV ^{(Talk on frwiki)} 10:09, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You could cut and paste the text from the edit window into notepad or similar text editor. You might need to switch to the old text editor. To be able to do this.

There is a chance that your edit session has expired. You get this if there is a long time between the time you first stated the edit and the time when you eventually try to publish. I get this with the text editor, and its normally cured by just pressing submit again. In VE try switching to the normal text editor.

There might be a related bug T255963 Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 404). It seems to occur if you take longer than 24 hours. —Salix alba (talk): 11:02, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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i am not able to access the visual editor. why?

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Despina_Stratigakos?action=edit

Loriannbrown (talk) 21:12, 24 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:47, 31 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello. I’ve noticed that visual editor automatically inserts carriage returns between onlyinclude tags and any table or template the tags are used around (see e.g. this or this). This has the effect of creating whitespace on the page the pages the templates/tables are transcluded on. Can this be fixed? Cheers, Number 57 16:09, 1 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Its rare for <onlyinclude>...</onlyinclude> tags to appear in the main article namespace as they only apply when the page is transcluded. These are normally found in the template namespace where transclusion is common, but visual editor is not enabled. Really we are trying to get visual editor to do a task it was not designed for. You could try filling a bug at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/ but I would not be optimistic about getting it fixed. A better solution might be to move the common text to the template namespace. This would prevent the Visual Editor from messing things up.—Salix alba (talk): 18:41, 1 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• So how do we fix it? I always get the same problem and its incredibly annoying 71.208.32.185 (talk) 13:13, 9 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bum_Phillips&action=edit
You have the wrong date of death. It is 2018 not 2013.

172.58.102.158 (talk) 06:47, 12 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Music_Album_(TV_series)&action=edit&oldid=977404083

2601:500:C280:6720:2021:DBC0:914:CBAF (talk) 03:43, 16 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brandonbott111?action=edit&veswitched=1

Hi, I’d like to change the title of the article but it is defaulting to my username which is «User:Brandonbott111.» I’d like to put the actual company name there but it is not letting me, please help! Thanks.

Brandonbott111 (talk) 04:39, 22 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The page looks like it might be self promotion and might not meet the notability standards for an article in the main encyclopedia, see WP:COISELF and WP:ORG. As such you should submit the article to the Wikipedia:Articles for creation process, and if an independent editor finds its notable enough they will move it to article space. To do this add the template {{subst:submit}} to the top of your article. You will need to do this using the normal editor and not the visual editor. —Salix alba (talk): 09:02, 22 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 22:12, 23 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Despina_Stratigakos?action=edit

Loriannbrown (talk) 14:54, 29 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Sandbox&veaction=edit

The citations are not showing up…please help. Thank you!

ALLBN (talk) 18:09, 29 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stance_(journal)?action=edit
I am unable to «move» this page and change the title of it. Could I permission?

Mariahbowman (talk) 19:53, 29 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_(business)?action=edit
I would recommend that the implementation section has more information and articles that can help readers take the information in the article and use it in the business workplace. By showing examples, previously used forms and information on how to deal with conflict regarding diversity. NeumeyerL (talk) 03:37, 4 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leela_Majumdar&action=edit&section=6

45.112.242.4 (talk) 02:14, 11 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=William_J._Dorgan&action=edit

Mtm10647 (talk) 18:16, 15 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2007?action=edit

Richblox999FX17 (talk) 15:03, 16 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Adding More Cast Members to Jurassic World: Dominion

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jurassic_World:_Dominion&action=edit&section=1

Ariana Richards as Lex Murphy
Joseph Mazzello as Tim Murphy
Julianne Moore as Dr. Sarah Harding
Vince Vaughn as Nick Van Owen
Vanessa Lee Chester as Kelly Curtis
Peter Stormare as Dieter Stark
Harvey Jason as Ajay Sidhu
Richard Schiff as Eddie Carr
Thomas F. Duffy as Dr. Robert Burke
Pete Postlethwaite as Roland Tembo
Arliss Howard as Peter Ludlow
Richard Attenborough as John Hammond
Samuel L. Jackson as Ray Arnold
Wayne Knight as Dennis Nedry
Ty Simpkins as Gray Mitchell
Nick Robinson as Zachary «Zach» Mitchell
Irrfan Khan as Simon Masrani
Lauren Lapkus as Vivian
Katie McGrath as Zara
Judy Greer as Karen Mitchell,
Andy Buckley as Scott Mitchell
Vincent D’Onofrio as Vic Hoskins
Brian Tee as Hamada
James Cromwell as Sir Benjamin Lockwood
Toby Jones as Mr. Eversoll
Rafe Spall as Eli Mills
Ted Levine as Ken Wheatley
Geraldine Chaplin as Iris
Peter Jason as Senator Sherwood
Camilla Belle as Cathy Bowman
Jerry Molen as Dr. Harding
Miguel Sandoval as Juanito Rostagno
Martin Ferrero as Donald Gennaro
Bob Peck as Robert Muldoon
Alessandro Nivola as Billy Brennan
William H. Macy as Paul Kirby
Téa Leoni as Amanda Kirby
Trevor Morgan as Eric Kirby
Michael Jeter as Udesky
John Diehl as Cooper
Bruce A. Young as Nash
Taylor Nichols as Mark
Mark Harelik as Ben Hildebrand
Julio Oscar Mechoso as Enrique Cardoso
Blake Bryan as Charlie

Nick Ferrante 02:38, 18 October 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NickF4401 (talk • contribs)

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=7_World_Trade_Center&action=edit

100.34.202.120 (talk) 20:45, 19 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MiCorr/citing_sources?action=edit&veswitched=1

MiCorr (talk) 08:06, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2400:AC40:705:E082:B4A9:F41F:48B9:9877 (talk) 16:58, 31 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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I love this BECAUSE i THOUGHT THAT I COULD NEVER EDIT IN GOOGLE BUT I CAN EDIT IN GOOGLE

182.77.39.13 (talk) 07:23, 2 November 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

He was not killed in Jasper, Tx. Only the trial was there, as it is the county seat. He was murdered near the Harrisburg, TX community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C5:4300:7280:A845:6546:6422:C8FC (talk) 15:44, 5 November 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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4″ Alien Collection Battle figures image have to be modified as Wildmutt is missing from it and Cannonbolt figure is the one from the previous wave. I made an updated image but I can’t upload it.

Mario99marian (talk) 23:20, 9 November 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I use Mac. I regularly use Command + Enter as the shortcut for publishing an edit after writing an edit summary, and find it really useful. Having burnt that pattern into my brain, I now routinely press it while editing a page in VE, expecting it to take me to the edit summary box, and am disappointed that it doesn’t work. I would find this a useful shortcut while editing pages. Popcornfud (talk) 16:14, 1 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Humbly requesting this again, as I continue to press Cammand + Enter automatically when trying to save edits. Popcornfud (talk) 16:23, 12 November 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Haloila&veaction=editsource

Hi,
Haloila pages needs to be moved to Signode Finland

Haloila (talk) 11:52, 17 November 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ricardus_Cibarius/sandbox?action=edit
Dialog box does not provide the option to upload an image file from computer

Ricardus Cibarius (talk) 14:00, 20 November 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:IleRosario/sandbox?action=edit
I’ve attempted to save my work by clicking the «Publish changes» button and absolutely nothing happens. I do not want to lose my work.

IleRosario (talk) 05:41, 26 November 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why does the Visual Editor screw around with the text before blockquotes?

For example, while editing in the Visual Editor, go to Adaptation (film), go to the Production section, and select the text above the blockquote («Kaufman said»). The text is uneditable, and has to be edited instead inside the quote template, in the «content» field. This is apparently not a normal part of the quote template; the Visual Editor appears to be injecting something weird into it.

Does anyone know what’s going on here? It’s been annoying me for months or years now. Popcornfud (talk) 10:59, 30 November 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uee&action=edit&section=2&editintro=Template%3ABLP_editintroywywee e

2001:4455:46A:CC00:F85E:2A3A:88F5:6376 (talk) 11:15, 2 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The dialog for inserting a citation has a short menu of attributes that includes year but does not include date, making it necessary to use the search dialog. I have two suggestions:

1. Provide an option to do a source edit of the generated {{cite}}
2. Include all of |date= |edition=, |publisher= and |work= in the short list.

Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 19:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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How do I add a Rhodes Scholar who is omitted from the list?

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Rhodes_Scholars&action=edit

Chekeditor (talk) 21:37, 2 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

One problem I have is to operate splits/mergers of whole columns. The process cannot be automated, and one has to split or merge every column’s cells one by one.

It is still possible to resort to an external automation program. However, there is no keyboard shortcut for ‘merge cells’ or ‘split cell’.

Either one of the two should be done, and for programmers, it seems a shortcut is by far the easiest to implement.

Kahlores (talk) 06:06, 13 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(suggestion related to Popcornfud’s)

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Woshiyiweizhongguoren&action=edit

2603:8000:F93C:4114:7C74:F24A:434:D5C (talk) 21:10, 13 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Foreign_Manufacturers_Certification_Scheme_(FMCS)?action=edit

article in showing in draft mode and if possible please edit into article mode

Dheeraj budhori (talk) 08:03, 19 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:National_Defense_Authorization_Acts&action=edit&redlink=1

I recommend adding a preview button or menu option, for both visual editing and source editing (2017 editor). If the button already exists, consider making it more prominent, because I can’t find it.

–Novem Linguae (talk) 06:46, 24 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A facility that I have found very useful in other editors is changing case, e.g.,

• Change to lower case
• Change to upper case
• Change to sentence case
• Change to title case
• Invert case

I’d like to see icons and keystrokes for at least those. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 14:54, 24 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Greetings! This site is extremely secure and should not be deleted because it has sufficient resources as well as information

Shkupi Kumanova 1234 (talk) 21:47, 25 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Shkupi Kumanova 1234, multiple editors have tried to communicate with you already on your talk page and have replied to you when you reached out to them. Please review their comments, and contribute to the article draft at Draft:Adem Kastrati. Once you properly cite claims in the article with inline references and remove promotional language, you can resubmit the draft for review. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 22:09, 25 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Motizin/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1&preload=Template%3AUser+sandbox%2Fpreload

I’ve been editing this page. When I returned to this page I got a message asking if I want to resume editting. I confirmed that I want but no page came up, so I restarted the sandbox. It was empty. There was history of previous deletions or transfers but not any mention of my last edit. Looks like the contents is lost. Why?

Motizin (talk) 15:09, 26 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]