Error rlink32 out of memory

Today I tried to compile a delphi project with a huge resource file and received the following error message:

[DCC Fehler] E2161 Error: RLINK32: Out of memory!

The resource file was created with brcc32 without errors. It contains 360 resources with a total of 475 MB of memory.

Additional Informations:

IDE = Embarcadero® Delphi® 2010 Version 14.0.3513.24210 
OS = Windows 7 Ultimate x64 (Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600)
RAM = 12 GB, avail 11.3 GB

brcc32.exe / 19. August 2009 / 169.008 Bytes
rlink32.exe / 19. August 2009 / 75.264 Bytes

Looks like I'm very close to the limitation (if there is any), cause when I reduce the size of the resource file to ~430 MB or less I don't get any errors.

Are there known issues or known limitations? Any ideas or workarounds? BTW, splitting up the single file into multiple smaller files doesn't help, same error.

I doubt there is a "natural" limitation, cause the problem occurs somewhere in the bracket of 430..475 MB size of the resource file with no 2^x values inside the range.

Thank you very much

Uwe

11/12/2009 3:47:50 PM

Uwe Kuhring wrote:

> Today I tried to compile a delphi project with a huge resource file
> and received the following error message:

Purely out of curiosity how long does an exe that size take to load?
I've never seen an exe that big.

-- 
-Mike (TeamB)

Mike

11/12/2009 4:20:07 PM

> {quote:title=Mike Williams (TeamB) wrote:}{quote}
> Uwe Kuhring wrote:
> 
> > Today I tried to compile a delphi project with a huge resource file
> > and received the following error message:
> 
> Purely out of curiosity how long does an exe that size take to load?
> I've never seen an exe that big.
> 
> -- 
> -Mike (TeamB)

Depends. Loading the file from a state of the art SSD drive takes about 3 seconds. Loading from standard usb 2.0 drives will take more than a minute.

Uwe

Uwe

11/12/2009 4:30:53 PM

"Uwe Kuhring" wrote in message news:[email protected]
> Today I tried to compile a delphi project with a huge resource file and 
> received the following error message:
>
> [DCC Fehler] E2161 Error: RLINK32: Out of memory!
>
> The resource file was created with brcc32 without errors. It contains 360 
> resources with a total of 475 MB of memory.


One solution is to put the resources in one or more DLLs instead of the main 
application. The main app can easily load resources (images, etc) from the 
"resource-only" DLLs.

-- 
Wayne Niddery (TeamB)

Wayne

11/12/2009 5:36:56 PM

Uwe Kuhring wrote:

> Today I tried to compile a delphi project with a huge resource file and
> received the following error message:

> [DCC Fehler] E2161 Error: RLINK32: Out of memory!

> RAM = 12 GB, avail 11.3 GB

Looks like Embarcadero needs 64bit Delphi to create a linker that can actually
use those 12GB on your system ;)

Jan Derk

Jan

11/12/2009 5:58:54 PM

> {quote:title=Wayne Niddery wrote:}{quote}
> "Uwe Kuhring" wrote in message news:[email protected]
>
> One solution is to put the resources in one or more DLLs instead of the main 
> application. The main app can easily load resources (images, etc) from the 
> "resource-only" DLLs.
> 
> -- 
> Wayne Niddery (TeamB)

Well, I agree, this should work. But putting the resources in multiple DLLs would have downsides:

- You have to divide the resoures into several groups without knowing the group limitations. So you either risk out of memory errors or create more DLLs than necessary.
- If single resources have to be exchanged or updated, things getting more complicated, cause you have to locate the appropriate resource DLL. You need some extra management here
- The advantage of resource files is partially lost, cause with this method you will have several external files. Probably that's exactly the thing you don't want to have.

Alternatively it is possible to create a single archive file containing all resources and read the required data from this archive at runtime. So no extra management for different DLLs would be needed. But again you would have at least two different files. Is there any way to put all the stuff into a single exe? In the past it was possible to append self defined data structures to an existing delphi exe. You had to open the exe at runtime and read data from the original end of the program. Actually this c
ant be done any more because this is the way some link virusses work and your customers will get a lot of annoying heuristic virus warnings when installing and/or starting such modified executables.

You have to go an official way...  Looks like resources files can't be used for huge amounts of data. Is there anything (official) left?

Thank you, Uwe

Edited by: Uwe Kuhring on Nov 12, 2009 11:28 AM

Uwe

11/12/2009 7:29:20 PM

Uwe Kuhring wrote:

> Today I tried to compile a delphi project with a huge resource file
> and received the following error message:
> 
> [DCC Fehler] E2161 Error: RLINK32: Out of memory!
> 
> The resource file was created with brcc32 without errors. It contains
> 360 resources with a total of 475 MB of memory.
> 
> Additional Informations:
> 
> IDE = Embarcadero® Delphi® 2010 Version 14.0.3513.24210 
> ...
> Looks like I'm very close to the limitation (if there is any), cause
> when I reduce the size of the resource file to ~430 MB or less I
> don't get any errors.
> 
> Are there known issues or known limitations? Any ideas or
> workarounds? BTW, splitting up the single file into multiple smaller
> files doesn't help, same error.

I am not aware of a limitation. I guess there is a problem with a least
one of your resources. You could try to find them and if you're
successful then you should create a QC report for the problem.

BTW, Delphi/RAD Studio 2010 Update 2 will hopefully released soon.
http://blogs.embarcadero.com/nickhodges/2009/11/13/39332

The list of fixed bugs doesn't contain your issue, but it's worth to
try it again with Update 2.
-- 
Uwe

Uwe

11/15/2009 10:47:15 AM

> {quote:title=Uwe Schuster wrote:}{quote}
>
> I am not aware of a limitation. I guess there is a problem with a least
> one of your resources. You could try to find them and if you're
> successful then you should create a QC report for the problem.
> 
> BTW, Delphi/RAD Studio 2010 Update 2 will hopefully released soon.
> http://blogs.embarcadero.com/nickhodges/2009/11/13/39332
> 
> The list of fixed bugs doesn't contain your issue, but it's worth to
> try it again with Update 2.

I don't think it's a problem with one of the resources, cause when I split them into two groups of resources, each group compiles well. So at least the problem is not independent from the sequence of the resource files which is no property of any resource file. Thank you for the link. I will try again with Update 2. 

I will flag the question as answered now, cause we found another way to integrate the resources. Thank you all for your answers.

Uwe

Uwe

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