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Plugin Manager — Status: Error

Having difficulties getting Decimort 1/2 (D16 Group) to run with FL Studio 12 (latest release) on a Surface Pro 4.
I’m using the Plugin Manager to scan for new items. It will find the plugins but they’re marked in red with status «error».
Does this maybe has something to do with permissions to access the files? Tried running FL as admin or lower the Windows security level — no luck.
Any help appreciated!




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Error Status in Plugin Manager

Hello! I’ve recently switched PCs — new motherboard, cpu, and memory — and ran into some issues when installing external VSTs that ran fine on my previous computer. When trying to install Volumeshaper 4 x64 by Cableguys but an error status is given in the Plugin Manager, however the x32 version of the plugin runs fine. Another method that I tried was manually applying the changes to the VST so that it becomes an ‘effect’, but there was still no luck running the plugin from within FL64. I am currently running the same OS as before, Windows 7 x64.

Anyone have an idea on what’s causing this problem?

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Fruity plugins and VST plugins are in status ‘error’

So, yesterday I purchased Serum the VST and installed it on my designated VST folder on Fl Studio. I quickly closed the program to refreshed my Laptop and launched Studio back again, and as soon as I did it, the first problem came to me. A little window that said ‘Fruity Limiter Plugin could not be found’. This is not a big deal, we’ll keep in touch.’ My first thought was that maybe the Plugin accidentally deactivated itself, so I went to Plugin Management, and boom, my big problem was there. All my plugins, both fruity and VST were in status ‘error’, all 272. I tried opening a project of my own, and there was no sound whatsoever! Only audio files had sound, but not the plugins. And some plugins had status ‘OK’, but when I tried to launch ’em it said that Fruity Wrapper could not be found. I honestly don’t know what to do, but I would appreciate some help. I haven’t touched anything since yesterday. So, I’m ready for instructions. Thank you.

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    Hi Everyone, when I click on ‘Find plugins’ in the Plugin Manager, these vsts all always return an error. They are being discovered and populating the Plugin Manager list, but aren’t valid or usable. I’ve tried over a dozen different plugins multiple times over the past couple of days, trying to troubleshoot on my own. I honestly don’t know what I’m doing wrong. (Look at Pic1) it seems that fl studio is not recognizing the vsts?

    Last week they we’re all working, but then when I tried to open a instrument (vst plugin: Ample Guitar M for example), this message came up: «This plugin failed to load: ‘Plugin NAME‘ (AU ( — native))» (Look at pic2)

    and I can’t right or left click, or click on the little star left of the plugin. Someone had this issue before? please help

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    So what changed from when it was working last week, and now?

    If nothing at all, the first thing I would do would be to take a look at my firewall ruleset, and my hosts file.


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    Last week, when I clicked on a vst, it opened like every normal vst plugin would open.
    Now, when I click on a vst plugin to open, i get this message all the time: «This plugin failed to load: ‘Plugin NAME‘ (AU ( — native))» (Look at pic2)

    But When I open the Standalone, the vst works. I tried opening the vsts in logic x pro, and there it also works. Only FL Studio is making a problem out of it.

    My firewall is off. and what do you mean by hosts file?

    Thank you very much for your answer!


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    Things should not just change on your system, without you doing something to cause it. Example: installing a new version of anything, switching plugin types… something you should already know about. (

    Should FL even be finding your AU plugins? I thought this would not matter because your screenshot shows all errors with the VST versions. /Plugins/ is not listed in your scan options. Did you already disable all scan locations, restart the program, and then re-enable each location one at a time already?

    I am sorry it has been 1 day longer since I installed Logic than I deleted that poor little guy FL. I’m not sure why it is even finding your /Components folder. I’d still firewall it :)

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    Hey, So I turned my firewall on, I restarted my macbook, and I tried scanning again; but i still get error as status. (look picture)

    Do you know how I can, for example, merge the vst of ‘AGM.vst’ with ‘Ample Guitar M’?

    Because when you look at the screenshot, ‘Ample Bass J’ has a filename, in this case ‘ABJ.vst’, and this one is working. So I don’t get why the other vsts are not functioning.

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    Duplicate instances are never good. This is why I suggested disabling all folders you are letting it scan.

    If the cause is your firewall being off, that is another issue. Turning it back on isn’t just going to fix it.


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    I’m only able to disable the second and third folder. That’s what I did, and tried rescanning, still errors all over the place…

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    This is what I mean, how come the Valhalla Plugins for example (check out picture), are seperated from the vst column?
    Literally last week, it was still working.

    How could an simple (pkg-next-next-next-install) installation could go wrong?
    Please let me know

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    Uninstall Fl Studio — Clean your system and install it according to the instructions in the download.

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    okay so, I Uninstalled FL Studio, Cleaned my mac, and installed it back. I rescanned, and now the text just became yellow. (Look at pic)

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    okay so, I Uninstalled FL Studio, Cleaned my mac, and installed it back. I rescanned, and now the text just became yellow. (Look at pic)

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    Delete the VST3 Valhalla in the VST3 Folder !


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    It is finding that AU still also. that is in /Components. (normally). Who knows here?


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    Sorry — I don’t own a Mac and have no idea about Mac.

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    I deleted the vst3, i rescanned, again, all errors. Then I decided to remove all files from this plugin: all vst3, all vst, and all AU files (in /components). When I refreshed, I saw this: (look at pic)

    The Au Files don’t seem to go away, even though I removed them from the Components Folder.

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    I worked using that dumbass program on pc for like 80 versions of it or something. When I bought a Mac, specifically so I could use Logic again; that sucker lasted about a day. It is a ported program, and you can tell. Unless you have a Maschine or Komplete Kontrol S series, You can save gigs of internal ssd space by not having a VST copy of every Audio Unit plugin.
    Learn Logic with FL deleted, so your crutch is gone and you have to look a few things up. delete it! Best favor I could ever ever do for you :)

    figure out how to code sign your plugins and you are done. The only thing faster about using FL, is not learning how to use Logic.

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    I deleted the vst3, i rescanned, again, all errors. Then I decided to remove all files from this plugin: all vst3, all vst, and all AU files (in /components). When I refreshed, I saw this: (look at pic)

    The Au Files don’t seem to go away, even though I removed them from the Components Folder.

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    • Valhalla.png

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    HHAHAHAAH, you’re right, but fl is so good too! the only thing that i hate about logic is that it doesn’t have a step sequencer on sierra 12.6, otherwise, I need to get a new Macbook :( I know how to use logic, but for now i need fl still


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    Can you uninstall Valhalla completely and then rescan it?
    I suspect one of the companies has a bug in their software !

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I am trying to use Melodyne Editor with Reason 10 but it isn’t showing up in my effects. The «Manage Plugins» window tells me that the plugin’s status is «Crashed» and also says «This plugin was automatically disabled because it crashed or caused Reason to hang.» Trying to enable it causes a window at restart that says:

«Plugin Errors

There were errors when inspecting some plugins. Check plugin status in the Manage Plugins window.»

Am I not able to use Melodyne in Reason at all? I plan on using it on polyphonic audio, which is something that Reason’s own pitch correction feature cannot do. I am grateful for your help.


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It works for me. What version of editor do you have? (and is it the latest?)

The integration with Reason isn’t great (since Reason doesn’t support ARA integration), but generally you can get things done: You can capture audio, and then manipulate it to your heart’s content


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I’m on Editor version 4.1.1.011 and 64-bit. Works fine for Reason 10.0.3 on my system, though I have seen the plugin crash occasionally at startup. It’s rock solid running stand alone, though.

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i have surprizingly never realized melodyne can work as a vst in reason until today, i have been using it as a separate app due to habit from version 1.
how exactly do i get reason to register melodyne as a vst? it doesn’t show up in my vst list, and it is in my osx mojave vst folder as melodyne.vst


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What’s wrong with Pitch Edit? What do you miss?


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Ok. As I recall for Mac Melodyne is only VST 3 with no intent of changing that. :(
Reason doesn’t do VST 3.

D.


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S1GNL wrote: ↑

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What’s wrong with Pitch Edit? What do you miss?

you have clearly never used melodyne.
it’s quality is leagues beyond reason’s native pitch edit. melodyne sounds undetectable. reason’s pitch edit is ok for some uses, but on vocals it’s not ideal unless you want an electronica sound.
plus you can change individual strings pitch in a guitar chord so you can turn a major into a minor
plus you can edit the formants
plus you can edit pitch drift separate from pitch vibrato
plus the transitions between notes are more editable
plus it can pitch correct drums, which in reason i can’t do at all without it sounding like digital artifacts.
but the main difference is quality.
it’s like subtractor vs europa, one is just more capable.


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Ok. As I recall for Mac Melodyne is only VST 3 with no intent of changing that. :(
Reason doesn’t do VST 3.

D.

it’s in the vst folder with a .vst extention
vst3 format plug ins have a .vst3 extention, which reason does not utilize and which is what you are thinking of


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WeLoveYouToo wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019

eusti wrote: ↑

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Ok. As I recall for Mac Melodyne is only VST 3 with no intent of changing that. :(
Reason doesn’t do VST 3.

D.

it’s in the vst folder with a .vst extention
vst3 format plug ins have a .vst3 extention, which reason does not utilize and which is what you are thinking of

Not sure if you are on a Mac or not.
Here’s a quote from Celemony from an email exchange a while ago:

«…we do not offer VST2 in 64 bit under macOS.
You will need to ask for VST3 support for Reason, since this newer version has been around for years.»

D.


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WeLoveYouToo wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019

S1GNL wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2019


What’s wrong with Pitch Edit? What do you miss?

you have clearly never used melodyne.
it’s quality is leagues beyond reason’s native pitch edit. melodyne sounds undetectable. reason’s pitch edit is ok for some uses, but on vocals it’s not ideal unless you want an electronica sound.

Sorry, but I disagree. Reason’s Audio Pitch Editor sounds no different than Melodyne, and I’ve got the latest version of Melodyne Editor. I mean sure — you can get that electronica sound if you want (just like you can in Melodyne), but I’m seriously interested in what you’re doing in that you can’t get similar results with Reason’s own pitch editor.

Now had you gone on about Melodyne Editor’s DNA, then I’d say hell yeah. Direct Note Access is the stuff magic is made of, and Melodyne’s witchcraft isn’t matched by anything out there to my knowledge.

WeLoveYouToo wrote: ↑

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plus you can change individual strings pitch in a guitar chord so you can turn a major into a minor
plus you can edit the formants
plus you can edit pitch drift separate from pitch vibrato
plus the transitions between notes are more editable
plus it can pitch correct drums, which in reason i can’t do at all without it sounding like digital artifacts.
but the main difference is quality.
it’s like subtractor vs europa, one is just more capable.

Reason’s Audio Pitch Editor is comparable to Melodyne Essentials. Reason’s allows you to edit formants, drift/vibrato, drift expression (preservation), and of course transition along with other typical things (clip position, quantize, etc). It sounds fantastic to my ears, and can be just as natural as you need it to be.

I still use Melodyne Editor for DNA though, as well as extracting a tempo track.

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EnochLight wrote: ↑

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Sorry, but I disagree. Reason’s Audio Pitch Editor sounds no different than Melodyne, and I’ve got the latest version of Melodyne Editor.

I agree with your disagreement. Reason’s Pitch Editor sounds transparent, as long as you aren’t pushing beyond sensible bounds. (The same as Melodyne.)

I’ll also add, that maybe Melodyne can be quickly used as a VST, but without ARA (Audio Random Access) provided by the VST3 host, it feels clunky. You have to «play» the audio to be tuned into Melodyne, and it makes its own copy of it. If you change anything with the audio in the host, you have to replay it again.

I have Melodyne Studio. For any real work, I’d rather treat it as its own process. Record in Reason, edit for the take(s) that I want. Bounce those to disk, and load into Melodyne. Do the corrections there, and export for use in Reason. That’s what’s happening when you use the VST anyway, albeit a little more automated.

So until Reason gets VST3 with ARA, pitch correction is it’s own process.


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So until Reason gets VST3 with ARA, pitch correction is it’s own process.

I’m willing to bet the farm that Reason never gets ARA support. :puf_bigsmile: :lol:

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06 Mar 2019

ScuzzyEye wrote: ↑

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So until Reason gets VST3 with ARA, pitch correction is it’s own process.

I’m willing to bet the farm that Reason never gets ARA support. :puf_bigsmile: :lol:

so are you using melodyne as a plugin or not?
i am hearing 2 different things.

so the issue is maybe the .vst plugin is 32 bit or requires ada?

also, regardless of which version of melodyne you use, it’s the same sound quality, and you simply cannot compare reason pitch edit to melodyne. i think the essential locks you out of changing anything besides pitch, but it should sound the same.
basically, i don’t want to drop an extra 400 bucks just to be able to hear my instrument track while editing pitch in melodyne, but it seems even as a vst it wouldn’t help. i have been using reason pitch edit alot, hoping it would sound usable each time i try, but always go back to melodyne and re-importing vocals.


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Not sure if you are on a Mac or not.
Here’s a quote from Celemony from an email exchange a while ago:

«…we do not offer VST2 in 64 bit under macOS.
You will need to ask for VST3 support for Reason, since this newer version has been around for years.»

thanks for that heads up, i’m on mojave, yes

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in case anyone is reading this forum and takes y’alls «advice» that reason and melodyne sound the same, here is a simple comparison of rsn pitch shift vs melodyne that anyone can do in 5 minutes:

i took a kick drum ( AM_BD1_1_FE_RG_R_H03 )from reason drum kits 2.0 and then shifted it down 5 semitones in reason, and then melodyne.
in reason i tried each of the 3 algorithms, they all sounded about the same.
in melodyne i used percussive.

1) original file
2) reason shifted down 5 semitones
3) melodyne shifted down 5 semitones

i did no processing ir editing beyond simply click dragging down 5 semitones.
if you can genuinely say these are «comparable» then i hereby eat my words.


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also, regardless of which version of melodyne you use, it’s the same sound quality, and you simply cannot compare reason pitch edit to melodyne. i think the essential locks you out of changing anything besides pitch, but it should sound the same.

You can actually compare them. In fact, we did blind tests with Melodyne and our own Pitch Edit on vocals. No one we tested it on could tell the difference and when counting any preferences for one or the other, it was pretty much an even split.

There are of course differences in how you use them, and what I think you’re getting at is that Melodyne’s leagues ahead on content that isn’t vocals, but for vocals I’d say we’re on pretty even footing when you get to know it. The Pitch Edit mode in Reason is designed only for vocals really. :)

On a more general note, Reason has three different pitch/time stretch algorithms depending on the content. Melody, vocal and allround. We try to auto-select what makes sense, but you might have to double-check that.


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07 Mar 2019

WeLoveYouToo wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2019


also, regardless of which version of melodyne you use, it’s the same sound quality, and you simply cannot compare reason pitch edit to melodyne. i think the essential locks you out of changing anything besides pitch, but it should sound the same.

You can actually compare them. In fact, we did blind tests with Melodyne and our own Pitch Edit on vocals. No one we tested it on could tell the difference and when counting any preferences for one or the other, it was pretty much an even split.

There are of course differences in how you use them, and what I think you’re getting at is that Melodyne’s leagues ahead on content that isn’t vocals, but for vocals I’d say we’re on pretty even footing when you get to know it. The Pitch Edit mode in Reason is designed only for vocals really. :)

On a more general note, Reason has three different pitch/time stretch algorithms depending on the content. Melody, vocal and allround. We try to auto-select what makes sense, but you might have to double-check that.

I use it on DI guitar all the time, works like a charm!


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WeLoveYouToo wrote: ↑

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also, regardless of which version of melodyne you use, it’s the same sound quality, and you simply cannot compare reason pitch edit to melodyne. i think the essential locks you out of changing anything besides pitch, but it should sound the same.

You can actually compare them. In fact, we did blind tests with Melodyne and our own Pitch Edit on vocals. No one we tested it on could tell the difference and when counting any preferences for one or the other, it was pretty much an even split.

There are of course differences in how you use them, and what I think you’re getting at is that Melodyne’s leagues ahead on content that isn’t vocals, but for vocals I’d say we’re on pretty even footing when you get to know it. The Pitch Edit mode in Reason is designed only for vocals really. :)

On a more general note, Reason has three different pitch/time stretch algorithms depending on the content. Melody, vocal and allround. We try to auto-select what makes sense, but you might have to double-check that.

i appreciate you chiming in, but in practice, i have definitely not felt they are comparable.
here’s a demo i am working on with a vocalist at the moment. it was recorded in the studio with an sm57 singing along to the monitors as we are figuring out the melody (it’s obviously not a final vocal) but i upped the word «you» by 2 semitones in both melodyne and rsn.
you can hear the comb filtering sound that plagues rsn pitch edit. to be fair, at first i tried it with the syllables «lea» and «ving» but they sounded similar.
(she sings «leaving you»)
the point is if i do anything more dramatic, or work with harder passages with lots of sibilance, it can get even worse, so i alwasy default to melodyne. now, in the previous bassdrum example, it was apples vs apples, but in this example, i realize melodyne and reason do not auto detect the syllable transitions the same, etc, so it’s not a perfect example, but i just want to show the artifacts i constantly hear when using rsn pitch tool. it’s good, but not melodyne good.


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in case anyone is reading this forum and takes y’alls «advice» that reason and melodyne sound the same, here is a simple comparison of rsn pitch shift vs melodyne that anyone can do in 5 minutes:

i took a kick drum ( AM_BD1_1_FE_RG_R_H03 )from reason drum kits 2.0 and then shifted it down 5 semitones in reason, and then melodyne.
in reason i tried each of the 3 algorithms, they all sounded about the same.
in melodyne i used percussive.

1) original file
2) reason shifted down 5 semitones
3) melodyne shifted down 5 semitones

i did no processing ir editing beyond simply click dragging down 5 semitones.
if you can genuinely say these are «comparable» then i hereby eat my words.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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so are you using melodyne as a plugin or not?
i am hearing 2 different things.

It works with Reason on Windows as a plug-in. It works best in other DAWs that support VST3 with ARA. It only works on the Mac with DAWs that support VST3, as they’ve not released a VST2 on that platform.


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What’s wrong with Pitch Edit? What do you miss?

you have clearly never used melodyne.
it’s quality is leagues beyond reason’s native pitch edit. melodyne sounds undetectable. reason’s pitch edit is ok for some uses, but on vocals it’s not ideal unless you want an electronica sound.
plus you can change individual strings pitch in a guitar chord so you can turn a major into a minor
plus you can edit the formants
plus you can edit pitch drift separate from pitch vibrato
plus the transitions between notes are more editable
plus it can pitch correct drums, which in reason i can’t do at all without it sounding like digital artifacts.
but the main difference is quality.
it’s like subtractor vs europa, one is just more capable.

That’s all possible with the Editor version?


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i appreciate you chiming in, but in practice, i have definitely not felt they are comparable.
here’s a demo i am working on with a vocalist at the moment. it was recorded in the studio with an sm57 singing along to the monitors as we are figuring out the melody (it’s obviously not a final vocal) but i upped the word «you» by 2 semitones in both melodyne and rsn.
you can hear the comb filtering sound that plagues rsn pitch edit. to be fair, at first i tried it with the syllables «lea» and «ving» but they sounded similar.
(she sings «leaving you»)

Sure they are comparable, even if you don’t feel they sound the same. ;)

They both sounds great to me, and both would work great in a track…but there IS a difference or two between the three versions you provided. For one, the melodyne version has the last word a little sharp from where it should be whereas the Reason version is perfectly in tune. I’d pick the Reason version for tuning accuracy.

Also, the Reason version has a timing change which you can see when you compare each of your three versions side by side. I did my own tuning in Reason using the original file, and there was no timing difference, so I’m not sure why your version has any timing difference — could be something about how you changed the pitch in Reason?

But between the timing difference and the pitch difference, yes there IS a difference. Below, you can see the timing difference in your Reason version (in yellow, third track down):

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so are you using melodyne as a plugin or not?
i am hearing 2 different things.

Voices in your head? Yeah — that’s always fun! :lol: ;)

Yes, I use Melodyne Editor as I mentioned earlier in this thread, almost a year ago. Sometimes I’ll run it as a plugin inside Reason, and sometimes I’ll use it standalone.

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so the issue is maybe the .vst plugin is 32 bit or requires ada?

It doesn’t require ADA, but I think this has already been answered for you.

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also, regardless of which version of melodyne you use, it’s the same sound quality, and you simply cannot compare reason pitch edit to melodyne. i think the essential locks you out of changing anything besides pitch, but it should sound the same.
basically, i don’t want to drop an extra 400 bucks just to be able to hear my instrument track while editing pitch in melodyne, but it seems even as a vst it wouldn’t help. i have been using reason pitch edit alot, hoping it would sound usable each time i try, but always go back to melodyne and re-importing vocals.

For pitch editing vocals, there simply is no difference between Essentials and Reason’s built-in. I’ve yet to hear any proof that there’s a difference, but I’m all ears. If you can create a project file that demonstrates what you’re claiming, then go for it. Otherwise, the burden of proof is on you.

That said, I’m not suggesting you’re crazy. Clearly you must be hearing something. Perhaps it’s a setting? What exactly are you doing to get such drastic differences between Reason and Melodyne? We’re talking just vocals, correct?

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i respect mattias and selig, so let me just say one final thing becasue this is absolutely ridiculous.
can neither of you two hear the blatent comb filter sound? this is what i often come accross in reason pitch edit.

first of all, neither reason nor melodyne auto split the word “you” so i just used the razor tool, it may not have been in the exact same spot, but the point is that i just showed you an example of what i am talking about, it’s not a proffesional a/b i am doing here, its for illustrative purposes so you know what sound i am refferencing.
if you all cannot hear the comb filter sound in the reason version, then i say enjoy tuning vocals with reason to your hearts content. to me, it is very obvious and what i would consider unusable.

i am not going to spend anymore time on this, i have supplied a drum and a vocal both showing how terrible reason’s pitch adjust can sound where melodyne shines. i am not saying reason pitch edit is terrible, but its not polished enough to replace melodyne.
if you disagree, then good for you, but the proof is right here.
if you want me to spend anymore time provinding you exact comparisons, pay me for my time and i will, but i do not have any collection of comparisons because when i hear a bad pitch edit, i dont bounce it, i work in melodyne instead. i have gone out of my way to show instances in both drums and vocals where reason craps out from scratch just to illustrate a point. if this is unsatisfactory, i am sorry but i stand by my efforts which i believe are more than enough to illustrate what i am saying.

i did not intend this to be a melodyne vs rsn pitch thread. i could care less what someone else thinks when i have my own ears.

this thread was originally about vst implementation which i STILL am not understanding by the way.
how can you use melodyne as a vst in reason like you said?

also, to the person that asks what melodyne editor does, it says it on their website in the comparison screen. the only feature in studio i have really been jealous of is the multi track editing, off phand i dont know what the other differences are


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this thread was originally about vst implementation which i STILL am not understanding by the way.
how can you use melodyne as a vst in reason like you said?

also, to the person that asks what melodyne editor does, it says it on their website in the comparison screen. the only feature in studio i have really been jealous of is the multi track editing, off phand i dont know what the other differences are

We can use the Melodyne VST because we’re on Windows.

It was the multi-track feature that made me switch to Melodyne. Being able to see the target notes (export vocal guide track with a simple sine synth) while doing corrections, makes the process so much faster. I was really hoping Reason’s multi-track feature would let me see MIDI and audio at the same time.


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It is common that while we are working on any of our audio projects with the FL Studio DAW, occurs certain issues due to crashes of the software itself, a fact that impacts negatively on our progress, as in many cases we lose all the work done, being this a big headache for most of us.

In summary, a large number of the problems that occur while running FL Studio are due to a malfunction of the DAW itself, plugin errors, computer failures due to insufficient resources or conflicts in its operating system, and also using a pirated version of Fruity Loops or a cracked plugin, which is a very usual situation.

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Below we will show you how to fix most of the FL Studio crashes in an easy-to-understand way.

Having Issues in FL Studio? (Fix Them All Easily)

Table of Contents

  • FL Studio won’t open
    • FL Studio is not responding
  • FL Studio doesn’t play sound
    • No sound from the pattern
    • Won’t play sound on Mobile
  • Fruity Loops is lagging and running slow
  • Fruity Loops Runtime error 216
  • Fruity Loops download error
  • Plugin manager error
  • Undefined external error
  • Edison is not recording
  • Fix most problems with FL Studio’s diagnostic tool
  • Final Thoughts

FL Studio won’t open

There can be many reasons why FL Studio doesn’t start, but that doesn’t have to be a reason to stop everything, on the contrary, we will show you how to fix it easily.

Better yet, the tool can be faster to use after completing this process.

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How to fix the issue:

  • The first thing you should do is reboot the system to eliminate any problems having to do with the computer and free up resources.
  • Also, it is good to check if there are any pending updates eliminating any doubts on the subject.
  • Reset the DPI scale and then reboot again.
  • Stop the antivirus of the device and is recommended to include FL Studio into its exclusion list.
  • Keep all your drivers up to date, especially the audio ones and plugins as well.
  • Also, reset all your settings to factory defaults or do a new installation from the scratch.
  • Finally, it is highly recommended to use a deep cleaning tool (such as Ccleaner or similar) to correct errors in the Regedit of the system.

FL Studio is not responding

There are multiple causes that provoke Fruity Loops Studio to freeze or become unresponsive when you want to produce in it.

One of the most frequent factors is related to low PC resources, conflicts between the audio card and some plugins (like ASIO or ASIO4ALL), or maybe with the audio output.

Sometimes these glitches have been reported because of incompatibility due to the use of older versions of these tools.

How to fix FL Studio is not responding:

  1. Close FL Studio and all programs that are running in the background using audio (audio or video players and browsers.)
  2. Restart the computer and open FL Studio again.
  3. Restore the settings of FL DAW.
  4. Reinitialize the PC again.

If all this does not work, you can try to install a newer version of the software and configure everything according to your preferences, which can be very useful to locate configuration errors.

Pay attention to the VST plugins which are a recurrent cause of bugs, so you should test them one at a time.

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FL Studio doesn’t play sound

On the other hand, one of the glitches that most affects the Fruity Loops Studio application is the one related to failures at the moment of playing any sound while editing a music track.

This is undoubtedly a scary part because it can turn into a loss of the work done that has not been previously backed up.

However, there are some methods whose solutions contribute to fixing this bug avoiding the loss of all the progress obtained in our project so far.

No sound from the pattern

Sound playback failures in FL Studio occur when there are configuration conflicts between some plugins and the audio output that cause audio dropouts or long delays.

Here are the most effective tips to solve FL Studio no sound:

Method #1

  • Download the sound archive directly from the mixer and open a new file where you have to choose the desired track.
  • Then you have to move the chosen pattern or track to the playlist and modify it from there.
  • Finally, press play and wait to see if the process has been successful.

If you can’t solve it try to watch the next video to explore another solution related to the pattern mode.

Method #2

  • You have to use the Edison software and go to the database.
  • Make the modifications you want to the sound mix.
  • Make the required adjustments to the sound patterns.
  • Run play to test if everything works correctly.
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Method #3

  • Go to the audio tab and enter the configuration section.
  • Choose the Show ASIO option and launch its control panel.
  • And finally, configure the output and choose the correct audio output device.
  • Done, everything should work correctly.

Method #4

This method is a bit more extreme, but still easy to perform. You must reinstall the FL Studio application, as it is possible that it has become corrupted, causing failures that prevent it from working correctly.

On the other hand, it is recommended verify the ASIO, ASIO4ALL and DirectSound configurations or outputs. Also, check your VSTs ouputs and MIDI settings are properly set up.

In my experience, you should take a look to the Auto close funtionalities as well, because this is a common cause of audio lose or sound outputs issues. So go to the audio settings to disable this application.

Won’t play sound on Mobile

You have to take into consideration that the mobile app may be quite demanding for your mobile device, as its processing power does not keep up with the high demand for FL Studio resources due to the fact that these devices are designed to perform small tasks.

Therefore, due to these reasons, a lot of slowness occurs during execution resulting in faulty audio playback.

Also see: How to get FL Studio Mobile 3 for Android

What can I do to fix the slowness of FL Studio Mobile?

  • Close the apps that are running in the background.
  • Use an application to free up RAM memory and reduce CPU usage on your phone.
  • Another solution would be to delete unused files that take up a lot of storage space.
  • Delete the cache of the application by going to advanced settings, but be careful and go to delete the user data so you don’t lose your music projects.
  • Finally, if all of the above does not work, I recommend reinstalling the app with a previous backup of your files.

Fruity Loops is lagging and running slow

The most common issues that cause FL studio performance drop are related to sound hardware problems (distorted audio), insufficient plugin buffer length (such as ASIO or ASIO4ALL), misconfiguration of the MIDI audio outputs, and also overloading of the computer’s memory and processor.

How to make FL Studio run faster?

  • Make sure the audio outputs are set up correctly to the ones you are using.
  • Free up RAM space and CPU usage by closing unused applications.
  • Change the settings of your plugins to bridge mode.
  • Set the buffer length to the best (highest value). This increases latency.
  • Update the PC sound drivers to the latest version.
  • Set the pc power plan to maximum performance to increase CPU efficiency.
  • Verify that the plugin bits are compatible with the pc operating system bits.
  • Avoid excessive use of multiple plugins.
  • Consider upgrading your PC to one that is good enough for this purpose.
  • Clean the system cache and use some software to defragment the PC storage unit.
I would also recommend you to watch this video to get a better idea of what is explained above.

Fruity Loops Runtime error 216

This kind of error may be caused by multiple factors, such as memory problems, driver conflicts, sound card malfunctions, and finally, one of the most frequent is that your system has been infected by some type of malware or virus and is injecting some malicious code into Fruity Loops Studio which causes it to malfunction while it is running.

If you are a user of FL Studio versions 11, 12, or 20, it is likely that at some point you will be affected by runtime error 216, especially if your digital audio workstation is installed on one of the latest operating systems provided by Microsoft, such as Windows 7, 8.1 or 10.

Also see: Get FREE sound packs for Fruity Loops Studio 

Tips to fix runtime error 216:

  • Reinstall the Microsoft Visual C++ libraries or simply download a new version of it.
  • Free up space on the storage drive where FL Studio is installed.
  • Keep the operating system updated with the latest security patch.
  • Update your antivirus and scan your system for viruses.
  • Install some deep cleaning software to correct system failures, such as Tuneup or Ccleaner.
  • Disable automatic startup or close those programs that waste system resources using the Windows Task Manager.
  • Keep your computer drivers up to date, especially audio and video drivers.
  • Do not use pirated versions of FL Studio or any of its plugins, use the original software instead.
  • Check your internet connection, because while downloading or updating, if the connectivity becomes slow or interrupted it is a direct cause of error 216.

Fruity Loops download error

Download troubles related to FL Studio are very habitual and are essentially due to a malfunction of the internet connectivity.

If you are downloading this tool from its official site or simply downloading an update and the internet connection is interrupted, the program may be damaged resulting in crashes when running it. you must follow the next recommendations.

To solve the download error:

  • Restart your modem or router to get a more stable and clean connection quality.
  • Re-download the FL Studio utility from a reputable site or better yet, from its official website.
  • Reboot your computer to free up resources and avoid bugs before reinstalling the application.
  • Re-install the program.
  • Keep your network card drivers up to date.

Plugin manager error

Plugins can experience problems for various reasons, in that sense, some of them may come from a bad installation of the plugin or maybe the audio output configuration is incorrect.

The plugin manager is not the exception, sometimes it gets stuck or simply does not work, making the scanning process impossible.

Another recurrent failure is your VST plugin is not compatible with the version of FL you are using (old version) or with the bits supported by the system (32 / 64 bit), or it is simply a plugin conflict that provokes the famous error: FL Studio plugin failed to load.

How to fix FL Studio plugin manager stuck:

  • Restart the FL application.
  • Analyze them for bugs with the plugin analyzer.
  • Use the plugin database and plugin generator to correct possible issues.
  • Always use the latest plugin version.
  • Download only the plugins that are needed from secure websites.
Also see: Interesting facts about FL Studio You Should Know

Undefined external error

This glitch is due to corrupted data in Regedit, so you have to modify it manually which is really delicate. I recommend you make a backup of the system before applying the following method.

How to fix the undefined external issues:

  • Hold down the Windows key or function key + R.
  • Type Regedit to add the automatic codes.
  • Add Ctrl + F to open the search window.
  • Add the code: 4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318
  • Go to new and create a multichain value.
  • Right-click to rename the value to UpperFilters.
  • Then over this last one enter the following code: ksthunk
  • Finally, close the code editor and restart the computer.

Edison is not recording

Edison is a very powerful Fruity Loops Studio audio recording tool with which you can do many interesting things and is really popular among music producers.

However, it can sometimes malfunction for reasons related to the user’s incorrect use of the software’s features.

Tips to fix Edison:

  • Use Edison in the proper slot and not in any rack.
  • I recommend inserting the track in the master channel.
  • Set it to the correct audio input.
  • Make sure the ASIO drivers are working properly.

This is an advanced program designed for the purpose of troubleshooting errors or corrupted files affecting the DAW. It also functions as a help guide that creates error reports, which can be sent to and evaluated by Image-Line’s technical support, allowing the correct resolution of the error.

I suggest you always use this tool to find the appropriate solution to your problem as quickly as possible.

Below is a series of videos where you will learn how to use it.

1- How to make a technical support post?

2- How to send diagnostic reports to technical support?

Note: See the online guide

Final Thoughts

As you can see, although FL Studio is considered one of the best Digital Audio Workstations on the market, it is not free of bugs. Many of them are caused by the user himself, either by inexperience or by the use of illegal third-party software, but they have simple ways to solve them.

We strongly recommend that you avoid using plugins or software from unofficial sources, as these are a direct cause of DAW malfunctions.

Furthermore, not only are you exposed to malicious software infections, but you can also get into legal trouble by violating copyright laws through the use of cracked software.

It is also really healthy to clean your system regularly with one of the tools mentioned above, keep FL Studio and its plugins up to date, as well as your computer’s drivers.

Let us know in the comments if you have experienced any of these errors and how you solved them.

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