Ошибка p0523 кадиллак эскалейд

Загорелся чек … сканер выдал ошибки U0073/P0138/P0523/P069E/P0700

U0073/U0109/P0521

Его величество интернет дал полную инфу…

Опыт подсказывает что реле регулятор «пургу гонит»)))

Что думают форумчане … 

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А что пишет сканер по модулю зарядки.

Как скачет?

Пробег?

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Напряжение не постоянное от 13.7 до 15.4  и чем больше  передвигаешься по городу тем меньше напряжение.Ну мне так показалось

пробег за 300 000 км

может номерок волшебной таблетки кто знает? 

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Напряжение не постоянное от 13.7 до 15.4  и чем больше  передвигаешься по городу тем меньше напряжение.Ну мне так показалось

Так и должно быть, с ростом температуры напряжение падает.

В 2007 году не может быть U0109.

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Поменял реле-регулятор.Бортовая сеть 10,9v … это очень мало .Должно быть 13,7    КАк так …может заводской брак? Буду ставить старый,который давал перезаряд  до 15,2

Что поменяли ? Такой детали НЕТ давно в Cadi Как отдельного элемента

15,2- это НОРМАЛЬНОЕ бортовое напряжение.

Не должно быть 13,7. Должно быть в очень широких пределах, от 10,5 до почти 16.

Бросайте подход от Жигулей к Cadi, а то бессмысленно будете еще много чего менять.

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Что поменяли ? Такой детали НЕТ давно в Cadi Как отдельного элемента

15,2- это НОРМАЛЬНОЕ бортовое напряжение.

Не должно быть 13,7. Должно быть в очень широких пределах, от 10,5 до почти 16.

Бросайте подход от Жигулей к Cadi, а то бессмысленно будете еще много чего менять.

Хорошего времени суток ВСЕМ

1.Никого не хотел обидеть своей технической необразованостью

Моя цель нахождения на форуме это получения инфы

Я был уверен что реле-регулятор есть в любом генераторе ,любой марки АВТО…спасибо что просветили

А какая деталь есть в КАДИ?

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Charging System: Description and Operation

12-Volt Battery

The following information is for the 12-Volt battery only.

For information about charging the high voltage drive motor batteries, refer to Jump Assist Description and Operation See: Hybrid Drive

Systems/Description and Operation/Jump Assist Description and Operation.

Electrical Power Management (EPM) Overview

The electrical power management (EPM) system is designed to monitor and control the charging system and send diagnostic messages to alert the

driver of possible problems. This EPM system primarily utilizes existing on-board computer capability to maximize the effectiveness of the charging

system, manage the load, improve battery state-of-charge and life, and minimize the system’s impact on fuel economy. The EPM system performs 3

functions:

* It monitors the battery voltage and estimates the battery condition.

* It takes corrective actions by adjusting the regulated voltage.

* It performs diagnostics and driver notification.

The battery condition is estimated during ignition off and during ignition on. During ignition off the state-of-charge (SOC) of the battery is

determined by measuring the open-circuit voltage. The SOC is a function of the acid concentration and the internal resistance of the battery, and is

estimated by reading the battery open circuit voltage when the battery has been at rest for several hours.

The SOC can be used as a diagnostic tool to tell the customer or the dealer the condition of the battery. Throughout ignition-on, the algorithm

continuously estimates SOC based on adjusted net amp hours, battery capacity, initial SOC, and temperature.

While running, the battery degree of discharge is primarily determined by a battery current sensor, which is integrated to obtain net amp hours.

In addition, the EPM function is designed to perform regulated voltage control (RVC) to improve battery SOC, battery life, and fuel economy. This

is accomplished by using knowledge of the battery SOC and temperature to set the charging voltage to an optimum battery voltage level for

recharging without detriment to battery life.

Charging System Components

Drive Motor/Generators

The drive motor/generators are serviceable components located within the transmission housing. When the rotors are spun, an alternating current

(AC) is induced into the stator windings. This AC voltage is then sent to the drive motor generator power inverter module (PIM) where it is

converted to high voltage direct current (DC) power. The output of the PIM is converted into low voltage electrical power by the accessory DC

power converter module (APM) for use by the vehicle’s electrical system to maintain electrical loads and battery charge.

Body Control Module (BCM)

The body control module (BCM) is a GMLAN device. It communicates with the engine control module (ECM) and the instrument panel cluster

(IPC) for electrical power management (EPM) operation. The BCM determines the desired voltage set point and sends the information to the APM.

The BCM monitors a battery current sensor, the battery positive voltage circuit, and estimated battery temperature to determine battery state of

charge (SOC).

Battery Current Sensor

The battery current sensor is a serviceable component that is connected to the negative battery cable at the battery. The battery current sensor is a

3-wire hall effect current sensor. The battery current sensor monitors the battery current. It directly inputs to the BCM. It creates a 5-volt pulse width

modulation (PWM) signal of 128 Hz with a duty cycle of 0-100 percent. Normal duty cycle is between 5-95 percent. Between 0-5 percent and

95-100 percent are for diagnostic purposes.

Engine Control Module (ECM)

The ECM receives control decisions based on messages from the BCM.

Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC)

The IPC provides a means of customer notification in case of a failure and a voltmeter. There are 2 means of notification, a charge indicator and a

driver information center (DIC) message of SERVICE BATTERY CHARGING SYSTEM.

Charging System Operation

The purpose of the charging system is to maintain the battery charge and vehicle loads. There are 6 modes of operation and they include:

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* Battery Sulfation Mode

* Normal Mode

* Fuel Economy Mode

* Headlamp Mode

* Voltage Reduction Mode

* Plant Assembly Mode

Battery Sulfation Mode

The BCM will enter this mode when the interpreted charging system voltage is less than 13.2 volts for 30 minutes. When this condition exists the

BCM will enter Normal Mode for 5 minutes. The BCM will then determine which mode to enter depending on voltage requirements.

Normal Mode

The BCM will enter Normal Mode when ever one of the following conditions are met.

* The wipers are ON for more than 3 seconds.

* GMLAN Climate Control Voltage Boost Mode Request is true, as sensed by the HVAC control head. High speed cooling fan, rear defogger

and HVAC high speed blower operation can cause the BCM to enter the Charge Mode.

* The estimated battery temperature is less than 0°C (32°F).

* Vehicle Speed is greater than 145 km/h (90 mph)

* Current Sensor Fault Exists

* System Voltage was determined to be below 12.56 volts

* Tow/Haul Mode is enabled

When any one of these conditions is met, the system will set targeted generator output voltage to a charging voltage between 13.9-15.5 volts,

depending on the battery state of charge and estimated battery temperature.

Fuel Economy Mode

The BCM will enter Fuel Economy Mode when the ambient air temperature is at least 0°C (32°F) but less than or equal to 80°C (176°F), the

calculated battery current is greater than -8 amps but less than 5 amps, and the battery state of charge (SOC) is greater than or equal to 85 percent. Its

targeted APM set-point voltage is the open circuit voltage of the battery and can be between 12.6-13.2 volts. The BCM will exit this mode and enter

Normal Mode when any of the conditions described above are present.

Headlamp Mode

The BCM will enter Headlamp Mode when ever the high or low beam headlamps are ON. Voltage will be regulated between 13.9-14.5 volts

Voltage Reduction Mode

The BCM will enter Voltage Reduction Mode when the calculated battery temperature is above 0°C (32°F) and the calculated battery current is

greater than -7 amps but less than 1 amp. Its targeted APM set-point voltage is 12.9-13.2 volts. The BCM will exit this mode once the criteria are

met for Normal Mode.

Plant Assembly Mode

The BCM will increase charging voltage for the first 500 miles of operation in an effort to ensure that the 12 volt battery is fully charged when the

vehicle is delivered to the customer.

Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Operation

Charge Indicator Operation

The instrument panel cluster (IPC) illuminates the charge indicator and displays a warning message in the driver information center (DIC) when the

one or more of the following occurs:

* The engine control module (ECM) detects system voltage less than 11 volts or greater than 16 volts. The IPC receives a GMLAN message

from the ECM requesting illumination.

* The BCM determines that the system voltage is less than 11 volts or greater than 16 volts.

* The IPC receives a GMLAN message from the body control module (BCM) indicating there is a system voltage range concern.

* The IPC performs the displays test at the start of each ignition cycle. The indicator illuminates for approximately 3 seconds.

* The ignition is ON, with the engine OFF.

Battery Voltage Gauge Operation

The IPC displays the system voltage as received from the BCM over the GMLAN serial data circuit. If there is no communication with the BCM

then the gauge will indicate minimum.

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This vehicle is equipped with a regulated voltage control (RVC) system. This will cause the voltmeter to fluctuate between 12 and 14 volts, as

opposed to non-regulated systems which usually maintain a more consistent reading of 14 volts. This fluctuation with the RVC system is normal

system operation and NO repairs should be attempted.

SERVICE BATTERY CHARGING SYSTEM

The BCM and the ECM will send a GMLAN message to the DIC for the SERVICE BATTERY CHARGING SYSTEM message to be displayed. It

is displayed whenever the charge indicator is commanded ON due to a failure.

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Хорошего времени суток ВСЕМ

1.Никого не хотел обидеть своей технической необразованостью

Моя цель нахождения на форуме это получения инфы

Я был уверен что реле-регулятор есть в любом генераторе ,любой марки АВТО…спасибо что просветили

А какая деталь есть в КАДИ?

Может растолкуете откуда у меня чек над Р0523

И похожими ошибками плакал

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Charging System: Description and Operation

12-Volt Battery

The following information is for the 12-Volt battery only.

For information about charging the high voltage drive motor batteries, refer to Jump Assist Description and Operation See: Hybrid Drive

Systems/Description and Operation/Jump Assist Description and Operation.

Electrical Power Management (EPM) Overview

The electrical power management (EPM) system is designed to monitor and control the charging system and send diagnostic messages to alert the

driver of possible problems. This EPM system primarily utilizes existing on-board computer capability to maximize the effectiveness of the charging

system, manage the load, improve battery state-of-charge and life, and minimize the system’s impact on fuel economy. The EPM system performs 3

functions:

* It monitors the battery voltage and estimates the battery condition.

* It takes corrective actions by adjusting the regulated voltage.

* It performs diagnostics and driver notification.

The battery condition is estimated during ignition off and during ignition on. During ignition off the state-of-charge (SOC) of the battery is

determined by measuring the open-circuit voltage. The SOC is a function of the acid concentration and the internal resistance of the battery, and is

estimated by reading the battery open circuit voltage when the battery has been at rest for several hours.

The SOC can be used as a diagnostic tool to tell the customer or the dealer the condition of the battery. Throughout ignition-on, the algorithm

continuously estimates SOC based on adjusted net amp hours, battery capacity, initial SOC, and temperature.

While running, the battery degree of discharge is primarily determined by a battery current sensor, which is integrated to obtain net amp hours.

In addition, the EPM function is designed to perform regulated voltage control (RVC) to improve battery SOC, battery life, and fuel economy. This

is accomplished by using knowledge of the battery SOC and temperature to set the charging voltage to an optimum battery voltage level for

recharging without detriment to battery life.

Charging System Components

Drive Motor/Generators

The drive motor/generators are serviceable components located within the transmission housing. When the rotors are spun, an alternating current

(AC) is induced into the stator windings. This AC voltage is then sent to the drive motor generator power inverter module (PIM) where it is

converted to high voltage direct current (DC) power. The output of the PIM is converted into low voltage electrical power by the accessory DC

power converter module (APM) for use by the vehicle’s electrical system to maintain electrical loads and battery charge.

Body Control Module (BCM)

The body control module (BCM) is a GMLAN device. It communicates with the engine control module (ECM) and the instrument panel cluster

(IPC) for electrical power management (EPM) operation. The BCM determines the desired voltage set point and sends the information to the APM.

The BCM monitors a battery current sensor, the battery positive voltage circuit, and estimated battery temperature to determine battery state of

charge (SOC).

Battery Current Sensor

The battery current sensor is a serviceable component that is connected to the negative battery cable at the battery. The battery current sensor is a

3-wire hall effect current sensor. The battery current sensor monitors the battery current. It directly inputs to the BCM. It creates a 5-volt pulse width

modulation (PWM) signal of 128 Hz with a duty cycle of 0-100 percent. Normal duty cycle is between 5-95 percent. Between 0-5 percent and

95-100 percent are for diagnostic purposes.

Engine Control Module (ECM)

The ECM receives control decisions based on messages from the BCM.

Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC)

The IPC provides a means of customer notification in case of a failure and a voltmeter. There are 2 means of notification, a charge indicator and a

driver information center (DIC) message of SERVICE BATTERY CHARGING SYSTEM.

Charging System Operation

The purpose of the charging system is to maintain the battery charge and vehicle loads. There are 6 modes of operation and they include:

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* Battery Sulfation Mode

* Normal Mode

* Fuel Economy Mode

* Headlamp Mode

* Voltage Reduction Mode

* Plant Assembly Mode

Battery Sulfation Mode

The BCM will enter this mode when the interpreted charging system voltage is less than 13.2 volts for 30 minutes. When this condition exists the

BCM will enter Normal Mode for 5 minutes. The BCM will then determine which mode to enter depending on voltage requirements.

Normal Mode

The BCM will enter Normal Mode when ever one of the following conditions are met.

* The wipers are ON for more than 3 seconds.

* GMLAN Climate Control Voltage Boost Mode Request is true, as sensed by the HVAC control head. High speed cooling fan, rear defogger

and HVAC high speed blower operation can cause the BCM to enter the Charge Mode.

* The estimated battery temperature is less than 0°C (32°F).

* Vehicle Speed is greater than 145 km/h (90 mph)

* Current Sensor Fault Exists

* System Voltage was determined to be below 12.56 volts

* Tow/Haul Mode is enabled

When any one of these conditions is met, the system will set targeted generator output voltage to a charging voltage between 13.9-15.5 volts,

depending on the battery state of charge and estimated battery temperature.

Fuel Economy Mode

The BCM will enter Fuel Economy Mode when the ambient air temperature is at least 0°C (32°F) but less than or equal to 80°C (176°F), the

calculated battery current is greater than -8 amps but less than 5 amps, and the battery state of charge (SOC) is greater than or equal to 85 percent. Its

targeted APM set-point voltage is the open circuit voltage of the battery and can be between 12.6-13.2 volts. The BCM will exit this mode and enter

Normal Mode when any of the conditions described above are present.

Headlamp Mode

The BCM will enter Headlamp Mode when ever the high or low beam headlamps are ON. Voltage will be regulated between 13.9-14.5 volts

Voltage Reduction Mode

The BCM will enter Voltage Reduction Mode when the calculated battery temperature is above 0°C (32°F) and the calculated battery current is

greater than -7 amps but less than 1 amp. Its targeted APM set-point voltage is 12.9-13.2 volts. The BCM will exit this mode once the criteria are

met for Normal Mode.

Plant Assembly Mode

The BCM will increase charging voltage for the first 500 miles of operation in an effort to ensure that the 12 volt battery is fully charged when the

vehicle is delivered to the customer.

Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Operation

Charge Indicator Operation

The instrument panel cluster (IPC) illuminates the charge indicator and displays a warning message in the driver information center (DIC) when the

one or more of the following occurs:

* The engine control module (ECM) detects system voltage less than 11 volts or greater than 16 volts. The IPC receives a GMLAN message

from the ECM requesting illumination.

* The BCM determines that the system voltage is less than 11 volts or greater than 16 volts.

* The IPC receives a GMLAN message from the body control module (BCM) indicating there is a system voltage range concern.

* The IPC performs the displays test at the start of each ignition cycle. The indicator illuminates for approximately 3 seconds.

* The ignition is ON, with the engine OFF.

Battery Voltage Gauge Operation

The IPC displays the system voltage as received from the BCM over the GMLAN serial data circuit. If there is no communication with the BCM

then the gauge will indicate minimum.

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This vehicle is equipped with a regulated voltage control (RVC) system. This will cause the voltmeter to fluctuate between 12 and 14 volts, as

opposed to non-regulated systems which usually maintain a more consistent reading of 14 volts. This fluctuation with the RVC system is normal

system operation and NO repairs should be attempted.

SERVICE BATTERY CHARGING SYSTEM

The BCM and the ECM will send a GMLAN message to the DIC for the SERVICE BATTERY CHARGING SYSTEM message to be displayed. It

is displayed whenever the charge indicator is commanded ON due to a failure.

I agree with you, but then tell me why P0523 error

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I agree with you, but then tell me why P0523 error

You’ve got code P0523 because of faulty oil pressure sensor.

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I agree with you, but then tell me why P0523 error

Как сказано выше — потому что because.

Чините то что сломалось , а не то что не понятно ! ))

Традиционно сдох  датчик давления масла. Сервис по таким машинам меняет их примерно по 2-4  в неделю

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Как сказано выше — потому что because.

Чините то что сломалось , а не то что не понятно ! ))

Традиционно сдох  датчик давления масла. Сервис по таким машинам меняет их примерно по 2-4  в неделю

Спасибо за науку

Не будете так добры дать волшебный номерок ,,,сразу закажу ,пусть будет

Но для чистоты эксперимента я вернул на место старый РР который мне показывал от 13,7 до 15,3    Вот покатаюсь, посмотрю когда чек загорится ?

Ошибку Р0523 я перевожу как :Датчик давления моторного масла

Высокое напряжения в цепи.

Поэтому я и меняю РР что считаю что в сети должно быть 13,7 это в идеале Допускаю скачки напряжение  до 14,5 но не больше  что конкретно для генератора D44

Это лишь мои выводы. Можем провести голосование по поводу личного мнения каждого из Форумчан

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A L L Diagnostic Trouble Codes ( DTC ): P Code Charts

P0523

DTC P0521, P0522, or P0523

Diagnostic Instructions

* Perform the Diagnostic System Check — Vehicle See: Testing and Inspection/Initial Inspection and Diagnostic Overview/Diagnostic System

Check — Vehicle prior to using this diagnostic procedure.

* Review Strategy Based Diagnosis See: Testing and Inspection/Initial Inspection and Diagnostic Overview/Strategy Based Diagnosis for an

overview of the diagnostic approach.

* Diagnostic Procedure Instructions See: Testing and Inspection/Initial Inspection and Diagnostic Overview/Diagnostic Procedure Instructions

provides an overview of each diagnostic category.

DTC Descriptors

DTC P0521

— Engine Oil Pressure (EOP) Sensor Performance

DTC P0522

— Engine Oil Pressure (EOP) Sensor Circuit Low Voltage.

DTC P0523

— Engine Oil Pressure (EOP) Sensor Circuit High Voltage

Diagnostic Fault Information

Circuit/System Description

The engine oil pressure (EOP) sensor changes voltage based on the engine oil pressure. The EOP sensor is a 3-wire sensor comprising of the signal

circuit, the low reference circuit and the 5-volt reference circuit. The engine control module (ECM) supplies 5 volts to the EOP sensor via the 5-volt

reference circuit and provides ground via the EOP low reference circuit. The ECM monitors the signal circuit of the EOP sensor to determine the

EOP sensor voltage is within the normal operating range of approximately 1-4 volts. When the engine oil pressure is high, the EOP sensor voltage is

high and the ECM senses a high signal voltage. When the engine oil pressure is low, the EOP sensor voltage is low and the ECM senses a low signal

voltage. The ECM sends the EOP information to the instrument panel cluster (IPC) via GMLAN serial data message.

Conditions for Running the DTC

The engine is running.

Conditions for Setting the DTC

P0521

The ECM detects that the difference between the predicted oil pressure and the actual oil pressure is either less than 47 kPa (6.8 psi) or greater than

50 kPa (7.3 psi).

P0522

* The ECM detects that the EOP sensor signal circuit is less than 0.1 volt.

* The above condition is present for greater than 10 seconds.

P0523

* The ECM detects that the EOP sensor signal circuit is greater than 4.4 volts.

* The above condition is present for greater than 10 seconds.

Action Taken When the DTC Sets

* The ECM records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostics test fails. The ECM displays this information in the Failure Records on

the scan tool.

* The IPC illuminates the EOP indicator.

Conditions for Clearing the DTC

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* The DTC becomes history when the conditions for setting the DTC are no longer present.

* The history DTC clears after 40 malfunction-free warm-up cycles.

Reference Information

Schematic Reference

Instrument Cluster Schematics See: Diagrams/Electrical Diagrams/Instrument Panel, Gauges and Warning Indicators/System Diagram/Instrument

Cluster Schematics

Connector End View Reference

Component Connector End Views See: Diagrams/Connector Views/Connector End Views By Name

Description and Operation

Instrument Cluster Description and Operation See: Instrument Panel, Gauges and Warning Indicators/Description and Operation/Instrument Cluster

Electrical Information Reference

* Circuit Testing See: Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General Diagnostics/Circuit Testing/Circuit Testing

* Connector Repairs See: Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General Diagnostics/Connector Repairs/Connector Repairs

* Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections See: Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General Diagnostics/Circuit

Testing/Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections

* Wiring Repairs See: Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General Diagnostics/Wiring Repairs/Wiring Repairs

Scan Tool Reference

Control Module References See: Testing and Inspection/Programming and Relearningfor scan tool information

Circuit/System Verification

1. Engine running, observe the scan tool Engine Oil Pressure Sensor parameter. The reading should be between 41-448 kPa (6-65 psi).

2. Verify the engine oil pressure, refer to:

* Oil Pressure Diagnosis and Testing See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust/Engine/Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General

Diagnostics/Oil Pressure Diagnosis and Testingfor the 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 6.2L or 7.0L engines

* Oil Pressure Diagnosis and Testing See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust/Engine/Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General

Diagnostics/Oil Pressure Diagnosis and Testingfor the 6.0L (LFA) engine.

Circuit/System Testing

1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the engine oil pressure (EOP) sensor.

2. Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm between the low reference circuit terminal 1 and ground.

‹› If greater than the specified range, test the low reference circuit for an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the ECM.

3. Ignition ON, test for 4.8-5.2 volts between the 5-volt reference circuit terminal 2 and ground.

‹› If less than the specified range, test the 5-volt reference circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal,

replace the ECM.

‹› If greater than the specified range, test the 5-volt reference circuit for a short to voltage. If the circuit tests normal, replace the ECM.

4. Verify the scan tool Engine Oil Pressure Sensor parameter is less than 8 kPa (1.2 psi).

‹› If greater than the specified range, test the signal circuit terminal 3 for a short to voltage or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests

normal, replace the ECM.

5. Install a 3A fused jumper wire between the signal circuit terminal 3 and the 5-volt reference circuit terminal 2. Verify the scan tool Engine Oil

Pressure Sensor parameter is greater than 550 kPa (80 psi).

‹› If less than the specified range, test the signal circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the

ECM.

6. If all circuits test normal, test or replace the EOP sensor.

Repair Instructions

Perform the Diagnostic Repair Verification See: Verification Tests after completing the diagnostic procedure.

* Engine Oil Pressure Sensor and/or Switch Replacement See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust/Engine/Engine Lubrication/Oil Pressure

Sensor/Service and Repairfor the 6.0L (LFA) engine

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* Engine Oil Pressure Sensor and/or Switch Replacement See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust/Engine/Engine Lubrication/Oil Pressure

Sensor/Service and Repairfor the 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 6.2L, or 7.0L engine.

* Control Module References See: Testing and Inspection/Programming and Relearningfor ECM replacement, setup and programming

датчик номер 12621234

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Но для чистоты эксперимента я вернул на место старый РР который мне показывал от 13,7 до 15,3    Вот покатаюсь, посмотрю когда чек загорится ?

Ошибку Р0523 я перевожу как :Датчик давления моторного масла

Высокое напряжения в цепи.

Поэтому я и меняю РР что считаю что в сети должно быть 13,7 это в идеале Допускаю скачки напряжение  до 14,5 но не больше  что конкретно для генератора D44

Это лишь мои выводы. Можем провести голосование по поводу личного мнения каждого из Форумчан

это троллинг такой или глупость??

как с такими выводами вы лезете ремонтировать машину?

ошибка по датчику давления масла — вы лезете и ищите реле как в жиге. При этому считая, что 13,7В опять же как жигулях, должно быть постоянное напряжение. Что за бред?

На всех моделях уже лет 15 напряжение меняется от нагрузки от 12 до 16 вольт

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P0523

DTC P0521, P0522, or P0523

Diagnostic Instructions

* Perform the Diagnostic System Check — Vehicle See: Testing and Inspection/Initial Inspection and Diagnostic Overview/Diagnostic System

Check — Vehicle prior to using this diagnostic procedure.

* Review Strategy Based Diagnosis See: Testing and Inspection/Initial Inspection and Diagnostic Overview/Strategy Based Diagnosis for an

overview of the diagnostic approach.

* Diagnostic Procedure Instructions See: Testing and Inspection/Initial Inspection and Diagnostic Overview/Diagnostic Procedure Instructions

provides an overview of each diagnostic category.

DTC Descriptors

DTC P0521

— Engine Oil Pressure (EOP) Sensor Performance

DTC P0522

— Engine Oil Pressure (EOP) Sensor Circuit Low Voltage.

DTC P0523

— Engine Oil Pressure (EOP) Sensor Circuit High Voltage

Diagnostic Fault Information

Circuit/System Description

The engine oil pressure (EOP) sensor changes voltage based on the engine oil pressure. The EOP sensor is a 3-wire sensor comprising of the signal

circuit, the low reference circuit and the 5-volt reference circuit. The engine control module (ECM) supplies 5 volts to the EOP sensor via the 5-volt

reference circuit and provides ground via the EOP low reference circuit. The ECM monitors the signal circuit of the EOP sensor to determine the

EOP sensor voltage is within the normal operating range of approximately 1-4 volts. When the engine oil pressure is high, the EOP sensor voltage is

high and the ECM senses a high signal voltage. When the engine oil pressure is low, the EOP sensor voltage is low and the ECM senses a low signal

voltage. The ECM sends the EOP information to the instrument panel cluster (IPC) via GMLAN serial data message.

Conditions for Running the DTC

The engine is running.

Conditions for Setting the DTC

P0521

The ECM detects that the difference between the predicted oil pressure and the actual oil pressure is either less than 47 kPa (6.8 psi) or greater than

50 kPa (7.3 psi).

P0522

* The ECM detects that the EOP sensor signal circuit is less than 0.1 volt.

* The above condition is present for greater than 10 seconds.

P0523

* The ECM detects that the EOP sensor signal circuit is greater than 4.4 volts.

* The above condition is present for greater than 10 seconds.

Action Taken When the DTC Sets

* The ECM records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostics test fails. The ECM displays this information in the Failure Records on

the scan tool.

* The IPC illuminates the EOP indicator.

Conditions for Clearing the DTC

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* The DTC becomes history when the conditions for setting the DTC are no longer present.

* The history DTC clears after 40 malfunction-free warm-up cycles.

Reference Information

Schematic Reference

Instrument Cluster Schematics See: Diagrams/Electrical Diagrams/Instrument Panel, Gauges and Warning Indicators/System Diagram/Instrument

Cluster Schematics

Connector End View Reference

Component Connector End Views See: Diagrams/Connector Views/Connector End Views By Name

Description and Operation

Instrument Cluster Description and Operation See: Instrument Panel, Gauges and Warning Indicators/Description and Operation/Instrument Cluster

Electrical Information Reference

* Circuit Testing See: Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General Diagnostics/Circuit Testing/Circuit Testing

* Connector Repairs See: Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General Diagnostics/Connector Repairs/Connector Repairs

* Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections See: Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General Diagnostics/Circuit

Testing/Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections

* Wiring Repairs See: Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General Diagnostics/Wiring Repairs/Wiring Repairs

Scan Tool Reference

Control Module References See: Testing and Inspection/Programming and Relearningfor scan tool information

Circuit/System Verification

1. Engine running, observe the scan tool Engine Oil Pressure Sensor parameter. The reading should be between 41-448 kPa (6-65 psi).

2. Verify the engine oil pressure, refer to:

* Oil Pressure Diagnosis and Testing See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust/Engine/Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General

Diagnostics/Oil Pressure Diagnosis and Testingfor the 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 6.2L or 7.0L engines

* Oil Pressure Diagnosis and Testing See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust/Engine/Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General

Diagnostics/Oil Pressure Diagnosis and Testingfor the 6.0L (LFA) engine.

Circuit/System Testing

1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the engine oil pressure (EOP) sensor.

2. Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm between the low reference circuit terminal 1 and ground.

‹› If greater than the specified range, test the low reference circuit for an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the ECM.

3. Ignition ON, test for 4.8-5.2 volts between the 5-volt reference circuit terminal 2 and ground.

‹› If less than the specified range, test the 5-volt reference circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal,

replace the ECM.

‹› If greater than the specified range, test the 5-volt reference circuit for a short to voltage. If the circuit tests normal, replace the ECM.

4. Verify the scan tool Engine Oil Pressure Sensor parameter is less than 8 kPa (1.2 psi).

‹› If greater than the specified range, test the signal circuit terminal 3 for a short to voltage or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests

normal, replace the ECM.

5. Install a 3A fused jumper wire between the signal circuit terminal 3 and the 5-volt reference circuit terminal 2. Verify the scan tool Engine Oil

Pressure Sensor parameter is greater than 550 kPa (80 psi).

‹› If less than the specified range, test the signal circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the

ECM.

6. If all circuits test normal, test or replace the EOP sensor.

Repair Instructions

Perform the Diagnostic Repair Verification See: Verification Tests after completing the diagnostic procedure.

* Engine Oil Pressure Sensor and/or Switch Replacement See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust/Engine/Engine Lubrication/Oil Pressure

Sensor/Service and Repairfor the 6.0L (LFA) engine

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* Engine Oil Pressure Sensor and/or Switch Replacement See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust/Engine/Engine Lubrication/Oil Pressure

Sensor/Service and Repairfor the 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 6.2L, or 7.0L engine.

* Control Module References See: Testing and Inspection/Programming and Relearningfor ECM replacement, setup and programming

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Как я понял ваша трактовка говорит о моей правоте .

Спасибо за номерок

Установил старый РР . По дороге домой больше чем 14 v напряжение не подымалось

Сканером убрал ошибки,чек пропал. Но потом вернулся … опять прошёлся сканером … ошибок Нет    Прикольно ,,,

Завтра скину клемы в течении дня    Раньше помогало

Новое ( купленное)РР верну обратно  и заказал новое в том же производителе  Хочу проверить может заводской брак. С моим то счастьем))) ;D

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Сообщений: 1837Карма: 167 / -4зверушаГород: МоскваМарка и модель автомобиля: Cadillac CTS 2Re:  Скачет напряжение в бортовой сети Эска 3 2007 гвторая минутка просвещения в чатике: A L L  Диагностические коды неисправностей (DTC): P-коды кодаP0523DTC P0521, P0522 или P0523Diagnostic  Инструкции * Выполните проверку диагностической системы — Vehicle See: Тестирование и проверка / Начальная  Проверка и диагностика Обзор / Диагностика SystemCheck — Автомобиль перед использованием этой диагностики  Процедура. * Обзор стратегии, основанной на диагностике. См .: Тестирование и инспекция / Первоначальная инспекция и  Диагностический обзор / Стратегическая диагностика для обзора диагностического подхода. * Диагностика  Инструкции по процедуре См.: Тестирование и осмотр / Первоначальная инспекция и диагностика  Обзор / Диагностическая процедура Инструкции содержит обзор каждой диагностической категории.  ДескрипторыDTC P0521- Датчик давления масла в двигателе (EOP) DTC P0522- Давление масла в двигателе  (EOP) Низкое напряжение цепи датчика. DTC P0523- Цепь датчика давления масла в двигателе (EOP) High  НапряжениеДиагностическая информация о неисправностиОсхема / система Описание Датчик давления масла в двигателе (EOP)  изменяет напряжение, основанное на давлении масла в двигателе.  Датчик EOP представляет собой трехпроводный датчик, состоящий из  signalcircuit, цепь низкого опорного напряжения и опорного напряжения 5 вольт.  Управление двигателем  модуль (ECM) подает 5 вольт к датчику EOP через схему с 5-вольтовой коррекцией и обеспечивает заземление  с помощью низкого опорного контура EOP.  ECM контролирует сигнальную цепь датчика EOP для  определяют, что напряжение датчика EOP находится в нормальном рабочем диапазоне приблизительно 1-4 вольта.  Когда давление масла в двигателе высокое, напряжение датчика EOP высокое и ECM воспринимает высокий  сигнальное напряжение.  Когда давление масла в двигателе низкое, напряжение датчика EOP низкое, а ECM  воспринимает низкое сигнальное напряжение.  ECM отправляет информацию EOP в кластер приборной панели (IPC)  через сообщение данных последовательных данных GMLAN. Условия для запуска DTC. Двигатель работает. Условия для  Установка DTCP0521 ECM обнаруживает, что разница между прогнозируемым давлением масла и  фактическое давление масла составляет менее 47 кПа (6,8 фунтов на квадратный дюйм) или больше 50 кПа (7,3 фунта на кв. дюйм). P0522 *  ECM обнаруживает, что сигнальная цепь датчика EOP меньше 0,1 В. * Приведенное выше условие  присутствует в течение более 10 секунд. P0523 * Контроллер ЭСУД обнаруживает, что сигнальная цепь датчика EOP  более 4,4 В. * Вышеуказанное условие присутствует более 10 секунд.  Когда коды DTC * ECM записывает рабочие условия в момент сбоя диагностического теста.  ECM отображает эту информацию в отчетах о сбоях на сканирующем приборе. * IPC освещает  Индикатор EOP.Conditions для очистки DTC2011 Cadillac Truck Escalade 4WD V8-6.0L Hybrid  Copyright © 2013, ALLDATA 10.52SS Page 2 * Код DTC становится историей, когда условия настройки  DTC больше не присутствуют. * Диагностический код ошибки очищается после 40 разминирования без сбоев  Циклы. Информация о референцииСпециальная ссылкаИнструмент кластерных схем См .:  Диаграммы / Электрические диаграммы / Панель приборов, Датчики и предупреждающие индикаторы / Система  Диаграмма / InstrumentCluster SchematicsConnector End View ReferenceComponent Connector End Views См.  Диаграммы / Коннекторные представления / Коннекторные конечные представления по имениНапись и операцияИнструмент кластера  Описание и эксплуатация См. Панель приборов, индикаторы и предупредительные индикаторы / описание и  Операция / Инструментальный кластерЭлектрическая информационная справочная система * Тестирование цепи См.: Тестирование и  Проверка / Компонентные тесты и общая диагностика / Тестирование цепи / Тестирование цепи * Разъем  Ремонт См.: Тестирование и осмотр / Компонентные тесты и общая диагностика / Разъем  Ремонт / Ремонт разъемов * Тестирование на прерывистые условия и плохие соединения См.: Тестирование  и инспекционные / компонентные испытания и общая диагностика / проверка цепи / тестирование для прерывистых  Условия и плохие соединения * Ремонт электропроводки См.: Тестирование и проверка / Компонентные испытания и  Общая диагностика / Ремонт электропроводки / Ремонт электропроводкиИнформация по инструменту ReferenceControl Module Ссылки:  Тестирование и проверка / Программирование и повторное обучение для информации о диагностическом инструментеCircuit / System  Verification1.  Двигатель работает, следите за параметром датчика давления масла в моторном масле.  показания должны быть между 41-448 кПа (6-65 фунтов на квадратный дюйм) .2.  Проверьте давление масла в двигателе, см.: * Масло  Диагностика и тестирование давления См.: Двигатель, Охлаждение и Выхлоп / Двигатель / Тестирование и  Инспекция / Компонентные тесты и общая диагностика / Диагностика давления масла и тестирование для 4,8 л,  5.3L, 6.0L, 6.2L или 7.0L * Диагностика и испытание давления масла См.: Двигатель, Охлаждение и  Выхлоп / Двигатель / Тестирование и проверка / Компонентные испытания и общая диагностика / Диагностика давления масла  и тестирование для двигателя 6.0L (LFA). Проверка цепи / системы1.  Выключить зажигание, отсоединить жгут  разъем датчика давления масла в двигателе (EOP).  Выключение зажигания, проверка на сопротивление менее 1,0 Ом  между клеммой цепи низкого опорного напряжения 1 и землей. <> Если значение больше указанного диапазона,  проверьте низкую опорную цепь для открытого / высокого сопротивления.  Если цепь проверена нормально, замените  ECM.3.  Включить зажигание, проверить напряжение 4,8-5,2 В между клеммой цепи опорного напряжения 5 вольт и 2  заземления. <> Если значение меньше указанного диапазона, проверить цепь опорного напряжения 5 вольт для короткого замыкания на землю  или открытое / высокое сопротивление.  Если цепь проверена нормально, замените ECM. <> Если больше, чем  задайте диапазон, проверьте опорную цепь 5 вольт на короткое замыкание на напряжение.  Если испытания цепи  нормальный, замените ECM.4.  Проверка диагностического прибора Датчик давления масла в двигателе меньше 8  кПа (1,2 фунта на квадратный дюйм). <> Если значение превышает указанный диапазон, проверьте клемму 3 сигнальной цепи для  короткое замыкание на напряжение или открытое / высокое сопротивление.  Если схема работает нормально, замените ECM.5.  устанавливать  3А плавкую проволочную перемычку между клеммой сигнальной цепи 3 и цепи опорного напряжения 5 вольт  клемма 2. Проверьте, что диагностический прибор Датчик моторного масла. Датчик давления превышает 550 кПа (80  psi). <> Если значение меньше указанного диапазона, проверьте сигнальную цепь на короткое замыкание на землю или  открытое / высокое сопротивление.  Если цепь протестирована нормально, замените ее.  Если все схемы протестированы нормально,  проверьте или замените датчик EOP. Инструкции по устранению неисправностейПроверьте диагностическую проверку ремонта См.  Проверка проверки после завершения процедуры диагностики. * Датчик давления масла в двигателе и / или  Замена переключателя См.: Двигатель, Охлаждение и Выхлоп / Двигатель / Смазка двигателя / Масло  Датчик давления / обслуживание и ремонт двигателя 6.0L (LFA )2011 Cadillac Truck Escalade 4WD V8-6.0L  Hybrid Copyright © 2013, ALLDATA 10.52SS Page 3 * Датчик давления масла в двигателе и / или переключатель  Замена См.: Двигатель, Охлаждение и выхлоп / Двигатель / Смазка двигателя / Датчик давления масла / Сервис  и ремонт для двигателей 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 6.2L или 7.0L. * Ссылки на модуль управления См.: Тестирование  и осмотр / программирование и повторное обучение для замены, настройки и программирования ECM  12621234

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это троллинг такой или глупость??

как с такими выводами вы лезете ремонтировать машину?

ошибка по датчику давления масла — вы лезете и ищите реле как в жиге. При этому считая, что 13,7В опять же как жигулях, должно быть постоянное напряжение. Что за бред?

На всех моделях уже лет 15 напряжение меняется от нагрузки от 12 до 16 вольт

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Дались Вам эти жигули…Это трооллинг такой?

Может поделитесь чем отличаются эти два номерка D3579  и D3587  Кроме  » ПАПЫ»

А я ВАМ отвечу ….НАПРЯЖЕНИЕМ…

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A L L Diagnostic Trouble Codes ( DTC ): P Code Charts

P0523

DTC P0521, P0522, or P0523

Diagnostic Instructions

* Perform the Diagnostic System Check — Vehicle See: Testing and Inspection/Initial Inspection and Diagnostic Overview/Diagnostic System

Check — Vehicle prior to using this diagnostic procedure.

* Review Strategy Based Diagnosis See: Testing and Inspection/Initial Inspection and Diagnostic Overview/Strategy Based Diagnosis for an

overview of the diagnostic approach.

* Diagnostic Procedure Instructions See: Testing and Inspection/Initial Inspection and Diagnostic Overview/Diagnostic Procedure Instructions

provides an overview of each diagnostic category.

DTC Descriptors

DTC P0521

— Engine Oil Pressure (EOP) Sensor Performance

DTC P0522

— Engine Oil Pressure (EOP) Sensor Circuit Low Voltage.

DTC P0523

— Engine Oil Pressure (EOP) Sensor Circuit High Voltage

Diagnostic Fault Information

Circuit/System Description

The engine oil pressure (EOP) sensor changes voltage based on the engine oil pressure. The EOP sensor is a 3-wire sensor comprising of the signal

circuit, the low reference circuit and the 5-volt reference circuit. The engine control module (ECM) supplies 5 volts to the EOP sensor via the 5-volt

reference circuit and provides ground via the EOP low reference circuit. The ECM monitors the signal circuit of the EOP sensor to determine the

EOP sensor voltage is within the normal operating range of approximately 1-4 volts. When the engine oil pressure is high, the EOP sensor voltage is

high and the ECM senses a high signal voltage. When the engine oil pressure is low, the EOP sensor voltage is low and the ECM senses a low signal

voltage. The ECM sends the EOP information to the instrument panel cluster (IPC) via GMLAN serial data message.

Conditions for Running the DTC

The engine is running.

Conditions for Setting the DTC

P0521

The ECM detects that the difference between the predicted oil pressure and the actual oil pressure is either less than 47 kPa (6.8 psi) or greater than

50 kPa (7.3 psi).

P0522

* The ECM detects that the EOP sensor signal circuit is less than 0.1 volt.

* The above condition is present for greater than 10 seconds.

P0523

* The ECM detects that the EOP sensor signal circuit is greater than 4.4 volts.

* The above condition is present for greater than 10 seconds.

Action Taken When the DTC Sets

* The ECM records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostics test fails. The ECM displays this information in the Failure Records on

the scan tool.

* The IPC illuminates the EOP indicator.

Conditions for Clearing the DTC

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* The DTC becomes history when the conditions for setting the DTC are no longer present.

* The history DTC clears after 40 malfunction-free warm-up cycles.

Reference Information

Schematic Reference

Instrument Cluster Schematics See: Diagrams/Electrical Diagrams/Instrument Panel, Gauges and Warning Indicators/System Diagram/Instrument

Cluster Schematics

Connector End View Reference

Component Connector End Views See: Diagrams/Connector Views/Connector End Views By Name

Description and Operation

Instrument Cluster Description and Operation See: Instrument Panel, Gauges and Warning Indicators/Description and Operation/Instrument Cluster

Electrical Information Reference

* Circuit Testing See: Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General Diagnostics/Circuit Testing/Circuit Testing

* Connector Repairs See: Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General Diagnostics/Connector Repairs/Connector Repairs

* Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections See: Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General Diagnostics/Circuit

Testing/Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections

* Wiring Repairs See: Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General Diagnostics/Wiring Repairs/Wiring Repairs

Scan Tool Reference

Control Module References See: Testing and Inspection/Programming and Relearningfor scan tool information

Circuit/System Verification

1. Engine running, observe the scan tool Engine Oil Pressure Sensor parameter. The reading should be between 41-448 kPa (6-65 psi).

2. Verify the engine oil pressure, refer to:

* Oil Pressure Diagnosis and Testing See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust/Engine/Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General

Diagnostics/Oil Pressure Diagnosis and Testingfor the 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 6.2L or 7.0L engines

* Oil Pressure Diagnosis and Testing See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust/Engine/Testing and Inspection/Component Tests and General

Diagnostics/Oil Pressure Diagnosis and Testingfor the 6.0L (LFA) engine.

Circuit/System Testing

1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the engine oil pressure (EOP) sensor.

2. Ignition OFF, test for less than 1.0 ohm between the low reference circuit terminal 1 and ground.

‹› If greater than the specified range, test the low reference circuit for an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the ECM.

3. Ignition ON, test for 4.8-5.2 volts between the 5-volt reference circuit terminal 2 and ground.

‹› If less than the specified range, test the 5-volt reference circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal,

replace the ECM.

‹› If greater than the specified range, test the 5-volt reference circuit for a short to voltage. If the circuit tests normal, replace the ECM.

4. Verify the scan tool Engine Oil Pressure Sensor parameter is less than 8 kPa (1.2 psi).

‹› If greater than the specified range, test the signal circuit terminal 3 for a short to voltage or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests

normal, replace the ECM.

5. Install a 3A fused jumper wire between the signal circuit terminal 3 and the 5-volt reference circuit terminal 2. Verify the scan tool Engine Oil

Pressure Sensor parameter is greater than 550 kPa (80 psi).

‹› If less than the specified range, test the signal circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the

ECM.

6. If all circuits test normal, test or replace the EOP sensor.

Repair Instructions

Perform the Diagnostic Repair Verification See: Verification Tests after completing the diagnostic procedure.

* Engine Oil Pressure Sensor and/or Switch Replacement See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust/Engine/Engine Lubrication/Oil Pressure

Sensor/Service and Repairfor the 6.0L (LFA) engine

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* Engine Oil Pressure Sensor and/or Switch Replacement See: Engine, Cooling and Exhaust/Engine/Engine Lubrication/Oil Pressure

Sensor/Service and Repairfor the 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 6.2L, or 7.0L engine.

* Control Module References See: Testing and Inspection/Programming and Relearningfor ECM replacement, setup and programming

датчик номер 12621234

Можно ли? использовать 12673134 …это взаимно заменяемая деталь?

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Дались Вам эти жигули…Это трооллинг такой?

Может поделитесь чем отличаются эти два номерка D3579  и D3587  Кроме  » ПАПЫ»

А я ВАМ отвечу ….НАПРЯЖЕНИЕМ…

А скинь ка ссылочки на тех характеристики обоих.

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