Rammap error refreshing database

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    the RAMMAP.EXE (Version 1.22 ) fails with an error dialog:
    error refreshing database

    Does anybody has an idea what’s going wrong?

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  • I’m having the same problem.  Running latest 1.30 on Windows 8 Pro 64bit 6.2.9200

    Trying to track down something that is leaking memory and this looks like the best tool.  Task Manager and Process explorer don’t show what is hovering up memory.

    Thanks

  • RAMMap 1.31 released 28th October to fix Windows 8 bug but does not work on Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit — Error refreshing database.

  • «RAMMap 1.31 released 28th October to fix Windows 8 bug but does not work on Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit — Error refreshing database.»

    Same problem here. Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit

  • Rammap V1.31 still failing with «error refreshing database». My version is Pro 64Bit) 8.1 originally OEM

  • I already wrote this to Mark. Looks like the Pfn Databse has changed between 8.0 and 8.1 and now it only works for 1.

  • RAMMap 1.3 works in Windows 8.1. RAMMap 1.31 seems to have regressed. Lucky I kept a copy of 1.3.

  • 1.32 is out Check if it works now all the time

  • 270 miles from 8.1 laptop. I’ll try it on Wednesday.

  • Working for me so far. Win Pro 8.1 64bit

  • RAMMap 1.32 is working with Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit.

  • RAMMap 1.32 shows «error refreshing database» with Vista version 6.0 Build 6000 (without Service pack). Tested on 2 different computers. The same error with RamMap versions 1.3, 1.11, 1.10, 1.0.

  • I posted it in a hope, that this problem could be maybe fixed in the next release of RAMMap Smile. Users with Vista without Service Pack may appreciate it.

  • Vista RTM is out of support for many years. Always use an up to date system to have the best experience in performance, security and stability.

  • Now this occurs with a clean windows 10 x64 installation :(

  • I already asked Mark. He will publish an update to fix it. So wait a bit.

  • version 1.4 same error on win 10 pro x64 version 1511

  • @MagicAndre1981
    Same as previous poster, can you please ask Mark for an update for Windows 10 x64 (build 10586) and thank you both!

  • ok, I’ve asked Mark again. When I get an answer, I’ll post it here.

  • I get the «error refreshing database»on a Windows Server Enterprise 2008 x64 SP2 using the RAMMAP 1.4

  • @MagicAndre1981
    I see RAMMAP 1.5 is out, working fine now, thank you! Beer

  • 1.32 is out Check if it works now all the time

    Thank you for adviсe. It was same problem. Now RamMap 1.50 is working for my Microsoft Windows 10 x64 [Version 10.0.16299.192].

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Rammap error refreshing database

perfmon.exe memory usage

I’ve noticed that Resource Monitor app uses a lot of RAM recently. Up to

12 GB. Here’s a screenshot with 2.9 GB usage:

moreover, after 25 minutes, it uses 3.4 GB already:

the only major activity currently happening is the Windows Defender Security Center «Full Scan».

  1. Is it possible that this large RAM usage is associated, say, with the fact that a lot of files are being processed during the «Full Scan», and Resource Monitor keeps «the full log» or something?
  2. Is it possible that this is a normal behavior? AFAIU, I’ve not seen anything like this before, even though Resource Monitor was working for weeks sometimes.

The backing-file for the real-time session

I’m not sure if this is important, but I’ve also noticed that there’s a number of «The backing-file for the real-time session «WDC.BE95A9B1-DE15-4B78-B923-A12AB70BE951″ has reached its maximum size» messages in Administrative Events in Event Viewer.

AFAIU, this Event Trace Session is started by Resource Monitor’s needs. And these messages mean that time to time, Resource Monitor UI is not able to process all the events generated. One the second screenshot Event Monitor eats

3% CPU, which is about one full CPU core. Since it is effectively a single-thread app, it looks like it’s working with a maximum possible throughput. This probably explains why these messages are generated. But. I still can’t say whether or not this is significant for the «whole picture».

General memory usage

It looks like Resource Monitor is only a small part of the story, actually. For some reason, Windows is currently consuming

Users’s apps definitely do not use that much. Except Resource Monitor, I can see no apps with abnormal RAM usage (see screenshots of the «Details» tab of the Task Manager app above.

Just for reference, here’s what Resource Monitor shows:

Restarting Resource Monitor

If I restart Resource Monitor, (via «Monitor->Stop Monitoring» & «Monitor->Start Monitoring») its memory usage goes back to normal

100MB. For a few minutes.

But on the whole, memory usage does not decrease much:

This feels like a higher-than-normal memory usage. But. well. I’m not sure whether it could be considered as «normal» or not. Maybe Windows is just trying to utilize empty RAM by caching some stuff somehow. By not closing some memory-mapped files or whatever. Usually, I’ve used RamMap tool to get more insights. To check what’s actually happening. But. it looks like RamMap is not working for me any more.

It works OK for a few minutes after a reboot, but than it fails like this.

This does not look nice. And it raises my suspiciousness — it looks like something is very wrong.

Ah. Yep, the final thing. I had 3 BSODs on this machine within last 7 days. Maybe this is what actually raises my suspiciousness. 🙂

So. Maybe it’s a memory leak in «iaStorA.sys» ? Any idea how to check this?

It looks like I have to try PoolMon..

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Yep, you’re right. I’ve compared the keys I see there with another PC and it looks like there’s nothing unexpected, actually.

Few more things I’ve noticed during the last few weeks:

  1. I’ve installed few updates, now I’m on 1703 15063.1088. Nothing changed.
  2. Resource Monitor memory usage is not growing above Commit Size = 13.6 GB. So, it’s hardly a real memory leak. Maybe that’s some hard-coded percentage of the amount of RAM installed or something.
  3. Resource Monitor Commit Size never decreases, though. Working Set goes down easily, when the system is low on memory. And if there’s not much load — it’s not growing again. (That is — Resource Monitor is not actually using the memory it allocated, AFAIU). This looks like a memory leak a bit. Maybe that’s «as designed». Not a big deal, anyway.
  4. I had no BSODs since I’ve uninstalled those Intel SATA ACHI driver.
  5. The Paged/NonPaged Pool easily goes up to

45GB /18GB (and probably even more) not only when Windows Defender «full scan» is running. Simple unpack of a large archive (few millions of files) gives the same result. It easily goes down if some app (e.g. dummy memory test app) allocates a lot of RAM. So, there’s no leak.

So, AFAIU, there’s nothing wrong. Everything is working as intended.

Thanks for your help!

What is perfmon running for? if you open perfmon does it have monitoring it runs?

What is this system, 384GB? is that correct?

@Mr Happy — good catch, I missed that.
Then a non-paged pool of 7Gb is probably ok and needed by memory manager.

When you have a «Killer» network card: their drivers are known to cause this.

Nope, I don’t have anything like that. Only built in Intel NIC.

What is perfmon running for? if you open perfmon does it have monitoring it runs?

What is this system, 384GB? is that correct?

I use perfmon in many cases to monitor possible performance bottlenecks. I’ve never noticed that it’s using that much RAM before. But in this case I was just trying to find something suspicious, after those BSODs, related to «iaStorA.sys». Like 100% hdd load for no reason, which usually indicates that HDD is failing. (Even though the only (non-used) DVD drive is attached to Intel SATA controller).

The system is Dell T7910, 384GB is correct.

@Mr Happy — good catch, I missed that.
Then a non-paged pool of 7Gb is probably ok and needed by memory manager.

It’s true that non-paged pool is typically larger than 200 MB on this system. But still, to my experience, usually both non-paged pool and paged-pool are at least 2x-3x smaller than now.

I’ve just tried PoolMon. And. Found nothing. The top row are:

Top nonpaged:

File

related to some general FileIO?

Ntfx

MmCa

Mm control areas for mapped files

EtwB

Event tracing buffer

FMsl

FSro

File System Run Time

ReTa

Resource Extended Table

Top paged:

Ntff

MmSt

Mm section object prototype ptes.

FMfn

IoNm

Io parsing names

(The basic info is from here)

  1. Almost everything seem to be related to «heavy IO», «NTFS», «Files». No 3rd party drivers. Just core Windows stuff. I doubt there’s an actual memory leak in there. And I doubt that their high memory usage might result in BSOD. Well, I hope so.
  2. All «heavy IO activity» is caused by Windows Defender Full Scan, which is still running. It’s reading from one HDD at a time, with

7-20 MB/s speed. Well, I’m not sure if it actually benefits much from all those «caches». Probably this is just how Windows works. I’m not blaming it for trying to cache some stuff, if it is possible.

  • There’s nothing related to iaStorA.sys. That’s a pity.
  • The only questionable thing, IMHO, is the EtwB. It sounds like something that might be connected with the Resource Monitor. Or it’s just working with poolmon itself, or something else. Not sure. Probably that’s OK state as well..

    So. I still don’t get

    1. why RamMap is broken,
    2. why ResourceMonitor is eating more and more RAM if it’s left running
    3. what’s the reason behind those BSODs 🙂

    Maybe I’ve missed something?

    you have Bit9 installed?
    Can you try this again without any 3rd party Antivirus installed, or even in a Safe Boot?

    As for the BSOD’s: Intel did not yet answer this, but I guess they would need the dump files anyway (instead of your html reports).

    From your Detailed-System-Report.html you are still on Windows 10 1703, so you could update to a newer version, perhaps this was already fixed.

    From your Detailed-System-Report.html you are still on Windows 10 1703, so you could update to a newer version, perhaps this was already fixed.

    Upgrading Windows version sounds like a good idea, but in-place-upgrade fails for some reason. I’ve tried few things and it looks like there’s some progress (the setupact.log is longer now). Maybe I’ll start a separate thread for that in a while.

    I guess they would need the dump files anyway (instead of your html reports).

    I do keep all the minidumps (and one larger 30GB “automatic dump”) – I’ve copied them to a separate folder. But they’ve not asked to share them yet.

    you have Bit9 installed? Can you try this again without any 3rd party Antivirus installed, or even in a Safe Boot?

    Booting into Safe Mode and attempting to run the Windows Defender Full Scan from there is another possible experiment, yep. I’m not sure how to interpret either result of it, but maybe I’ll try this a bit later.

    I’ve also noticed some users report that this driver (but different version) might cause high nonpaged pool usage by «MmSt» poolmon tag :

    RST 11.5 removal instructions (since it doesn’t clean up properly)
    This driver is actually based on the RSTe branch, it installs a filter driver that registers to the host lower filter reg keys.
    SMART is not available in this driver and it causes MmSt (see poolmon/pooltag) to rapidly consume paged pool when heavy file access (searching for instance) is performed.
    The removal of this driver is not as simple as uninstalling the driver (which is also performed when doing an RST upgrade install). The iastorA and iastorF(filter) services are not disabled and removed during the update, and the iaStorF filter is not removed from the HDD bus lowerfilter, which means the driver is still loaded even with a different version of the IRST driver. This as the case, it results in the MmSt paging out heavily when buffering pte’s during a search. To remove this driver properly, the user must do the following exactly in this order

    There are also other reports about memory leaks, related to these drivers. This time, iaStoreV.sys (SpDN tag) .

    So, for now, I’ve tried to test the same thing without this Intel driver first.

    1. manually “updated driver” to Microsoft “Standard SATA ACHI Controller” instead.
    2. pnputil /enum-drivers . Found : iastora.inf, iastorac.inf, iastorb.inf, iastors.inf (there was no iastorF)
    3. pnputil /delete-driver oem. inf for each of them
    4. reboot
    5. Sanity check:
      1. The pnputil /enum-drivers does not see them any longer
      2. driverquery /v do see them, but reports that they are stopped and in “Manual” start mode.
      3. DriverView tool does not see them

    So, for now I cannot see any significant changes in memory consumption:

      Shortly-after-restart memory usage is about the same as before (that’s a pity I don’t have explicit “before” screenshot):
  • RamMap is working shortly after the reboot, but fails after a few hours of “Windows Defender Full Scan”
  • After

    14 hours of “Full Scan”, Resource Monitor RAM usage (Working Set) is 1.2GB. Paged Pool is 5.5GB, Non-paged pool is 3.1GB

  • It’s interesting to note, that EtwB is on top, currently, 1.1GB. Maybe this is the maximum, and it’s not going to grow more than that. And, thus, there’s no leak.
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    perfmon.exe memory usage

    I’ve noticed that Resource Monitor app uses a lot of RAM recently. Up to

    12 GB. Here’s a screenshot with 2.9 GB usage:

    moreover, after 25 minutes, it uses 3.4 GB already:

    the only major activity currently happening is the Windows Defender Security Center «Full Scan».

    1. Is it possible that this large RAM usage is associated, say, with the fact that a lot of files are being processed during the «Full Scan», and Resource Monitor keeps «the full log» or something?
    2. Is it possible that this is a normal behavior? AFAIU, I’ve not seen anything like this before, even though Resource Monitor was working for weeks sometimes.

    The backing-file for the real-time session

    I’m not sure if this is important, but I’ve also noticed that there’s a number of «The backing-file for the real-time session «WDC.BE95A9B1-DE15-4B78-B923-A12AB70BE951″ has reached its maximum size» messages in Administrative Events in Event Viewer.

    AFAIU, this Event Trace Session is started by Resource Monitor’s needs. And these messages mean that time to time, Resource Monitor UI is not able to process all the events generated. One the second screenshot Event Monitor eats

    3% CPU, which is about one full CPU core. Since it is effectively a single-thread app, it looks like it’s working with a maximum possible throughput. This probably explains why these messages are generated. But. I still can’t say whether or not this is significant for the «whole picture».

    General memory usage

    It looks like Resource Monitor is only a small part of the story, actually. For some reason, Windows is currently consuming

    Users’s apps definitely do not use that much. Except Resource Monitor, I can see no apps with abnormal RAM usage (see screenshots of the «Details» tab of the Task Manager app above.

    Just for reference, here’s what Resource Monitor shows:

    Restarting Resource Monitor

    If I restart Resource Monitor, (via «Monitor->Stop Monitoring» & «Monitor->Start Monitoring») its memory usage goes back to normal

    100MB. For a few minutes.

    But on the whole, memory usage does not decrease much:

    This feels like a higher-than-normal memory usage. But. well. I’m not sure whether it could be considered as «normal» or not. Maybe Windows is just trying to utilize empty RAM by caching some stuff somehow. By not closing some memory-mapped files or whatever. Usually, I’ve used RamMap tool to get more insights. To check what’s actually happening. But. it looks like RamMap is not working for me any more.

    It works OK for a few minutes after a reboot, but than it fails like this.

    This does not look nice. And it raises my suspiciousness — it looks like something is very wrong.

    Ah. Yep, the final thing. I had 3 BSODs on this machine within last 7 days. Maybe this is what actually raises my suspiciousness. 🙂

    So. Maybe it’s a memory leak in «iaStorA.sys» ? Any idea how to check this?

    It looks like I have to try PoolMon..

    Answers

    Yep, you’re right. I’ve compared the keys I see there with another PC and it looks like there’s nothing unexpected, actually.

    Few more things I’ve noticed during the last few weeks:

    1. I’ve installed few updates, now I’m on 1703 15063.1088. Nothing changed.
    2. Resource Monitor memory usage is not growing above Commit Size = 13.6 GB. So, it’s hardly a real memory leak. Maybe that’s some hard-coded percentage of the amount of RAM installed or something.
    3. Resource Monitor Commit Size never decreases, though. Working Set goes down easily, when the system is low on memory. And if there’s not much load — it’s not growing again. (That is — Resource Monitor is not actually using the memory it allocated, AFAIU). This looks like a memory leak a bit. Maybe that’s «as designed». Not a big deal, anyway.
    4. I had no BSODs since I’ve uninstalled those Intel SATA ACHI driver.
    5. The Paged/NonPaged Pool easily goes up to

    45GB /18GB (and probably even more) not only when Windows Defender «full scan» is running. Simple unpack of a large archive (few millions of files) gives the same result. It easily goes down if some app (e.g. dummy memory test app) allocates a lot of RAM. So, there’s no leak.

    So, AFAIU, there’s nothing wrong. Everything is working as intended.

    Thanks for your help!

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    What is perfmon running for? if you open perfmon does it have monitoring it runs?

    What is this system, 384GB? is that correct?

    @Mr Happy — good catch, I missed that.
    Then a non-paged pool of 7Gb is probably ok and needed by memory manager.

    When you have a «Killer» network card: their drivers are known to cause this.

    Nope, I don’t have anything like that. Only built in Intel NIC.

    What is perfmon running for? if you open perfmon does it have monitoring it runs?

    What is this system, 384GB? is that correct?

    I use perfmon in many cases to monitor possible performance bottlenecks. I’ve never noticed that it’s using that much RAM before. But in this case I was just trying to find something suspicious, after those BSODs, related to «iaStorA.sys». Like 100% hdd load for no reason, which usually indicates that HDD is failing. (Even though the only (non-used) DVD drive is attached to Intel SATA controller).

    The system is Dell T7910, 384GB is correct.

    @Mr Happy — good catch, I missed that.
    Then a non-paged pool of 7Gb is probably ok and needed by memory manager.

    It’s true that non-paged pool is typically larger than 200 MB on this system. But still, to my experience, usually both non-paged pool and paged-pool are at least 2x-3x smaller than now.

    I’ve just tried PoolMon. And. Found nothing. The top row are:

    Top nonpaged:

    File

    related to some general FileIO?

    Ntfx

    MmCa

    Mm control areas for mapped files

    EtwB

    Event tracing buffer

    FMsl

    FSro

    File System Run Time

    ReTa

    Resource Extended Table

    Top paged:

    Ntff

    MmSt

    Mm section object prototype ptes.

    FMfn

    IoNm

    Io parsing names

    (The basic info is from here)

    1. Almost everything seem to be related to «heavy IO», «NTFS», «Files». No 3rd party drivers. Just core Windows stuff. I doubt there’s an actual memory leak in there. And I doubt that their high memory usage might result in BSOD. Well, I hope so.
    2. All «heavy IO activity» is caused by Windows Defender Full Scan, which is still running. It’s reading from one HDD at a time, with

    7-20 MB/s speed. Well, I’m not sure if it actually benefits much from all those «caches». Probably this is just how Windows works. I’m not blaming it for trying to cache some stuff, if it is possible.

  • There’s nothing related to iaStorA.sys. That’s a pity.
  • The only questionable thing, IMHO, is the EtwB. It sounds like something that might be connected with the Resource Monitor. Or it’s just working with poolmon itself, or something else. Not sure. Probably that’s OK state as well..

    So. I still don’t get

    1. why RamMap is broken,
    2. why ResourceMonitor is eating more and more RAM if it’s left running
    3. what’s the reason behind those BSODs 🙂

    Maybe I’ve missed something?

    you have Bit9 installed?
    Can you try this again without any 3rd party Antivirus installed, or even in a Safe Boot?

    As for the BSOD’s: Intel did not yet answer this, but I guess they would need the dump files anyway (instead of your html reports).

    From your Detailed-System-Report.html you are still on Windows 10 1703, so you could update to a newer version, perhaps this was already fixed.

    From your Detailed-System-Report.html you are still on Windows 10 1703, so you could update to a newer version, perhaps this was already fixed.

    Upgrading Windows version sounds like a good idea, but in-place-upgrade fails for some reason. I’ve tried few things and it looks like there’s some progress (the setupact.log is longer now). Maybe I’ll start a separate thread for that in a while.

    I guess they would need the dump files anyway (instead of your html reports).

    I do keep all the minidumps (and one larger 30GB “automatic dump”) – I’ve copied them to a separate folder. But they’ve not asked to share them yet.

    you have Bit9 installed? Can you try this again without any 3rd party Antivirus installed, or even in a Safe Boot?

    Booting into Safe Mode and attempting to run the Windows Defender Full Scan from there is another possible experiment, yep. I’m not sure how to interpret either result of it, but maybe I’ll try this a bit later.

    I’ve also noticed some users report that this driver (but different version) might cause high nonpaged pool usage by «MmSt» poolmon tag :

    RST 11.5 removal instructions (since it doesn’t clean up properly)
    This driver is actually based on the RSTe branch, it installs a filter driver that registers to the host lower filter reg keys.
    SMART is not available in this driver and it causes MmSt (see poolmon/pooltag) to rapidly consume paged pool when heavy file access (searching for instance) is performed.
    The removal of this driver is not as simple as uninstalling the driver (which is also performed when doing an RST upgrade install). The iastorA and iastorF(filter) services are not disabled and removed during the update, and the iaStorF filter is not removed from the HDD bus lowerfilter, which means the driver is still loaded even with a different version of the IRST driver. This as the case, it results in the MmSt paging out heavily when buffering pte’s during a search. To remove this driver properly, the user must do the following exactly in this order

    There are also other reports about memory leaks, related to these drivers. This time, iaStoreV.sys (SpDN tag) .

    So, for now, I’ve tried to test the same thing without this Intel driver first.

    1. manually “updated driver” to Microsoft “Standard SATA ACHI Controller” instead.
    2. pnputil /enum-drivers . Found : iastora.inf, iastorac.inf, iastorb.inf, iastors.inf (there was no iastorF)
    3. pnputil /delete-driver oem. inf for each of them
    4. reboot
    5. Sanity check:
      1. The pnputil /enum-drivers does not see them any longer
      2. driverquery /v do see them, but reports that they are stopped and in “Manual” start mode.
      3. DriverView tool does not see them

    So, for now I cannot see any significant changes in memory consumption:

      Shortly-after-restart memory usage is about the same as before (that’s a pity I don’t have explicit “before” screenshot):
  • RamMap is working shortly after the reboot, but fails after a few hours of “Windows Defender Full Scan”
  • After

    14 hours of “Full Scan”, Resource Monitor RAM usage (Working Set) is 1.2GB. Paged Pool is 5.5GB, Non-paged pool is 3.1GB

  • It’s interesting to note, that EtwB is on top, currently, 1.1GB. Maybe this is the maximum, and it’s not going to grow more than that. And, thus, there’s no leak.
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    I’m having some issues with the windows rammap tool. It used to work fine but by going to recent builds 17115/17120 it stopped working — when i start it up it does not show up anything. Refreshing it causes it to crash. I tried re-installing it but no luck. Searching through the web also does not show up anything useful, besides some stale forums.
    I’m wondering if anyone has faced similar issues or can point me to ways to resolve this. I’m on win10 pro build 17120 rs4 180309-1616.

    Edit — as pointed out by @Epoxy in the comments, here are the event error logs.

    1. Application Error event -----
    
    * 1.1 General *
    
    Faulting application name: RAMMap64.exe, version: 1.50.0.0, time stamp: 0x56a9c074
    Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 10.0.17120.1, time stamp: 0xe5136909
    Exception code: 0xc0000374
    Fault offset: 0x00000000000f50cb
    Faulting process id: 0x1954
    Faulting application start time: 0x01d3c1083d80f478
    Faulting application path: C:Program FilesRAMMapRAMMap64.exe
    Faulting module path: C:WINDOWSSYSTEM32ntdll.dll
    Report Id: 8002f6e8-ca88-49d2-a4d7-07aeda4dceed
    Faulting package full name: 
    Faulting package-relative application ID:  
    
    * 1.2 Details * 
    
    - System 
    - Provider 
      [ Name]  Application Error 
    - EventID 1000 
      [ Qualifiers]  0 
    Level 2 
    Task 100 
    Keywords 0x80000000000000 
    - TimeCreated 
      [ SystemTime]  2018-03-21T11:32:45.093706100Z 
    EventRecordID 1843 
    Channel Application 
    Computer David-Desktop 
    Security 
    - EventData 
       RAMMap64.exe 
       1.50.0.0 
       56a9c074 
       ntdll.dll 
       10.0.17120.1 
       e5136909 
       c0000374 
       00000000000f50cb 
       1954 
       01d3c1083d80f478 
       C:Program FilesRAMMapRAMMap64.exe 
       C:WINDOWSSYSTEM32ntdll.dll 
       8002f6e8-ca88-49d2-a4d7-07aeda4dceed
    
    2. Windows Error Reporting event -----
    
    * 2.1 General * 
    
    Fault bucket 1880635345925225307, type 4
    Event Name: APPCRASH
    Response: Not available
    Cab Id: 0
    
    Problem signature:
      P1: RAMMap64.exe
    P2: 1.50.0.0
    P3: 56a9c074
    P4: StackHash_cbfa
    P5: 10.0.17120.1
    P6: e5136909
    P7: c0000374
    P8: PCH_20_FROM_ntdll+0x000000000009ABC4
    P9: 
      P10: 
    
      Attached files:
      \?C:ProgramDataMicrosoftWindowsWERTempWER123B.tmp.mdmp
    \?C:ProgramDataMicrosoftWindowsWERTempWER127A.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
    \?C:ProgramDataMicrosoftWindowsWERTempWER128B.tmp.xml
    WPR_initiated_DiagTrackMiniLogger_One Trace User Logger_20180319 Event Collector_0_inject.etl
    \?C:UsersDavid_JankoskiAppDataLocalTempWER1309.tmp.etl
    WPR_initiated_DiagTrackMiniLogger_WPR System Collector_inject.etl
    \?C:UsersDavid_JankoskiAppDataLocalTempWER130A.tmp.etl
    \?C:ProgramDataMicrosoftWindowsWERTempWER1308.tmp.csv
    \?C:ProgramDataMicrosoftWindowsWERTempWER1318.tmp.txt
    
    These files may be available here:
      C:ProgramDataMicrosoftWindowsWERReportArchiveAppCrash_RAMMap64.exe_1c39d666fb7c699d861d89961ee7a4e57d783d7d_92e8a64a_236b1911
    
    Analysis symbol: 
      Rechecking for solution: 0
    Report Id: 8002f6e8-ca88-49d2-a4d7-07aeda4dceed
    Report Status: 268435456
    Hashed bucket: 21e4a91eb4cb40a98a195be211eabb5b
    Cab Guid: 0
    
    * 2.2 Details *
    
    + System 
    
    - Provider 
    
    [ Name]  Windows Error Reporting 
    
    - EventID 1001 
    
    [ Qualifiers]  0 
    
    Level 4 
    
    Task 0 
    
    Keywords 0x80000000000000 
    
    - TimeCreated 
    
    [ SystemTime]  2018-03-21T11:32:46.920970900Z 
    
    EventRecordID 1844 
    
    Channel Application 
    
    Computer David-Desktop 
    
    Security 
    
    
    - EventData 
    
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    4 
    APPCRASH 
    Not available 
    0 
    RAMMap64.exe 
    1.50.0.0 
    56a9c074 
    StackHash_cbfa 
    10.0.17120.1 
    e5136909 
    c0000374 
    PCH_20_FROM_ntdll+0x000000000009ABC4 
    
    
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    RAMMap uses internal API to query the memory data. Such API change in new Windows 10 versions. And it looks like Microsoft made some changes in the last RS4 preview Builds that cause the tool to fail.

    So go back to the Windows 10 v1709 or wait until next month when Windows 10 v1803 gets official released. I think Mark will update all tools to make them compatible.

    answered Mar 21, 2018 at 16:16

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    Rammap 1.52 released June 28, 2019 works fine on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Version 1903.

    answered Jul 25, 2019 at 5:24

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    Hitting the «Empty — Standby List» still works in RamMap. To check open Resource Monitor (use search to find on your PC) and click on the Memory tab. At the bottom the memory use will show. Checking the before and after you will see that RamMap will reset the standby memory back to zero. The new Windows update has caused RamMap to no longer display the memory.

    answered May 16, 2018 at 13:06

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    There is no problem running it in Windows 7. Did you download it from

    RAMMap

    Yes, that’s where I got it. Just to make sure, I downloaded and ran it again, and got the same result:

    «Rammap requires Windows Vista or higher»

    And when I run it in compaitibility mode for Windows Vista with/without the service packs, I get the message

    «Error refreshing database»

    Now, when you say «There is no problem running it in Windows 7», you mean there’s no problem on your platform. But there is a problem with running it in Windows 7 on my platform. What version of Windows 7 are you running? Keep in mind that I’m running Windows 7 Home Premium. If you’re running any other version, that might have some bearing on the matter.

    Any other differences in our platforms could also affect how Rammap runs.

    Also, the message I received when running it Windows Vista compatibility mode suggests something going on with «refreshing the database». If that’s really the case, the problem I’m having with Rammap in Windows 7 Home Premium may have nothing to do with whatever version of Windows 7 I’m running.

    It wouldn’t be the first time error messages from MS software have nothing to do with the actual problem. In this case there are two different error messages, one from Rammap in Windows 7 Home Premium, and one from Rammap running in Vista Compatibility Mode. For all we know, they could both be misleading.

    Now we know you can run it in some version of Windows 7 while I can’t run it in Win7 Home Premium. We also know that there is some kind of database problem running it in Vista compatibility mode on my platform. It may be that some other component both Windows Vista and Windows 7 is the problem, or even some unrelated application on our respective platforms.

    To that end, here is some additional info:

    PCs (2): Dell Dimension 8300/8400 3.2GHz 4GB RAM 500GB HDD/350GB Free
    OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
    MS .Net Framework 3.5.1
    MS Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable 8.0.59193
    MS Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable x86 9.0.30729.4148
    MS Sync Framework Runtime v1.0 (x86) 1.1.1215.0
    MS Sync Framework Services v1.0 (x86) 1.1.1215.0
    MS Windows Debugging Symbols 7600
    MS Office, any version — NOT INSTALLED
    AV: AVG Free 9.0.829
    Firewall: Zonealarm Free 9.1.007.002

    Can anyone see a possible cause for the problem in any of the additional info?

    Thanks once again for your time,

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    • I am trying to debug memory pressure on SQL Server 2008 Enterprise Edition running on Windows 2008 Standard 64-Bit. 

      1. AWE is not enabled.

      2. SQL Server agent and service accounts are added to «Lock Pages in Memory»

      3. SQL Server max memory is set to 16GB (Out of 32 GB) and remaining 8 GB is allocated to OLAP (Analysis Services).

      Now I want to check if AWE showing as high in RamMAP is the cause for memory exhaustion ?


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    • You will get a better answer in the Database Engine forum.

      AWE has no meaning in a 64bit OS.  AWE is a method for 32bit OS to access >4GB of RAM.  This lmitation does not exist in 64bit OS.

      RamMAP displays «large page allocations» as AWE.

      The «max server memory» option in SQL Server 2008 only controls the buffer pool size, nothing else.  There are many allocaitons outside of the buffer pool which you have no control over.

      What exactly is your issue?  

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    • All currently supported versions of SQL Server Standard Edition support Locked Pages in Memory. 
      http://support.microsoft.com/kb/970070

      If the OS privilege is set for the SQL Server Service Account or the Per-Service SID, SQL Server will use AWE to allocate physical memory for the buffer pool (and perhaps other memory structures). 

      AWE is an API that not only allows 32bit applications to map windows of physical memory in and out of their limited Virtual Address Space.  It’s also the API that 64bit applications use to bypass the Windows virtual memory management and directly allocate
      physical memory into their (large) Virtual Address Space and prevent that memory from being paged out.

      The «AWE Enabled» setting has absolutely nothing to do with this.

      See, eg

      http://blogs.msdn.com/b/slavao/archive/2005/04/29/413425.aspx

      I don’t know what that tool is or why is shows what it does, but you should expect your SQL Server to have allocated up to 16GB of memory through AWE.

      David


      David http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dbrowne/

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