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I am using the lastes version of both InDesign 16.1 and my macOS Big Sur

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Are you using an Adobe «Pro» font? Also, not all Pro fonts support all the OpenType features—that’s up to the font designer. 

The OT properties can work with extended fonts from other foundries, but you already have access to many Adobe Pro fonts.

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A few questions:

  • Which specific typefaces are you trying?
  • Which OpenType features do you need?
  • When you go the the Character panel menu > Open Type, do the features have square brackets indicating they are not available with that typeface?
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  Hello Jane, 

sorry for this delay,

if you are still here to help,

i wanted to inform you i am merely a beginner and may take a bit longer to process any new topics and excuse that.

i am using an Avenir with a Light typeface. For the OpenType features I needed them to just play around  with different styles and ligatures. Kind of an exploration thing. 

And yes, when i go into Character panel menu, OpenType, the feautures have sq brakets Screenshot 2021-02-17 at 11.44.35.png

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If this is not an Adobe font or Linotype font (Avenir is/was licensed by Adobe from Linotype), then it may not be OpenType. Adobe fonts [usually] have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. Linotype also has the Pro distinction on the Avenir font name. 

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If you are using the Mac version of Avenir, it probably is not an extended (Pro) font. I’m not in front of my Mac right now, but you can check the Glyphs panel to see how many characters and features the font has. 

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If this is an Adobe font (Avenir is licensed by Adobe from Linotype), then it is not OpenType. Adobe fonts have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. 


This makes no sense at all! All Adobe fonts now are OpenType. They can be OpenType Pro with more glyphs or just ‘standard’, that is still OpenType.

You seem somewhat confused here.

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That was a typing error on my part from too much cut-and-paste while writing the response.

>You seem somewhat confused here.

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If this is an Adobe font (Avenir is licensed by Adobe from Linotype), then it is not OpenType. Adobe fonts have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. Linotype also has the Pro distinction on the Avenir font name. …

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Correct—but it is included in the Adobe Font Folio CD. That is where my screen capture came from. I was referring to that font in my capture. 

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  • When you go the the Character panel menu > Open Type, do the features have square brackets indicating they are not available with that typeface?

Hi @fanbrahms 

It’s up to the type designer to choose what to build into each typeface.

Since you are just playing around, open the Glyphs panel from the Type menu as you play and keep an eye on it. Some OpenType features, such as Swash, may be available only on the Italic (or Bold Italic) style of a typeface and will apply to Uppercase letters only.

In addition, if there are OpenType features, there will be a small «o» icon on the bottom of a frame when it is selected with the Selection tool. Click the icon to see a list of OpenType features available.

Ligatures are available to you in Avenir Light. Try typing «efficient» and turn ligatures on and off with the word selected.

Have fun playing!

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There is your answer, when there are square brackets around the option they are not available in that specific font… Best to try another, extended, OT Font.

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I have a same issue. Yesterday .indd let me make this PDF. (see 1)
but today I open the same .indd (packaged file. no fonts are missing) not does not display the font in the layout. (see 2)

This is not because the text box is smaller and is cutting off the text. It does not even highlight the content.
HELP. 

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Are you using an Adobe «Pro» font? Also, not all Pro fonts support all the OpenType features—that’s up to the font designer. 

The OT properties can work with extended fonts from other foundries, but you already have access to many Adobe Pro fonts.

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Hi

A few questions:

  • Which specific typefaces are you trying?
  • Which OpenType features do you need?
  • When you go the the Character panel menu > Open Type, do the features have square brackets indicating they are not available with that typeface?
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    ~ Jane

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  Hello Jane, 

sorry for this delay,

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i wanted to inform you i am merely a beginner and may take a bit longer to process any new topics and excuse that.

i am using an Avenir with a Light typeface. For the OpenType features I needed them to just play around  with different styles and ligatures. Kind of an exploration thing. 

And yes, when i go into Character panel menu, OpenType, the feautures have sq brakets Screenshot 2021-02-17 at 11.44.35.png

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If this is not an Adobe font or Linotype font (Avenir is/was licensed by Adobe from Linotype), then it may not be OpenType. Adobe fonts [usually] have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. Linotype also has the Pro distinction on the Avenir font name. 

image.png

If you are using the Mac version of Avenir, it probably is not an extended (Pro) font. I’m not in front of my Mac right now, but you can check the Glyphs panel to see how many characters and features the font has. 

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If this is an Adobe font (Avenir is licensed by Adobe from Linotype), then it is not OpenType. Adobe fonts have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. 


This makes no sense at all! All Adobe fonts now are OpenType. They can be OpenType Pro with more glyphs or just ‘standard’, that is still OpenType.

You seem somewhat confused here.

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If this is an Adobe font (Avenir is licensed by Adobe from Linotype), then it is not OpenType. Adobe fonts have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. Linotype also has the Pro distinction on the Avenir font name. …

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The Avenir font family is not provided by the Adobe Fonts service. And not all “Adobe fonts” (assuming you mean fonts available through the Adobe Fonts service) have either Pro or Std in their name.

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  • When you go the the Character panel menu > Open Type, do the features have square brackets indicating they are not available with that typeface?

Hi @fanbrahms 

It’s up to the type designer to choose what to build into each typeface.

Since you are just playing around, open the Glyphs panel from the Type menu as you play and keep an eye on it. Some OpenType features, such as Swash, may be available only on the Italic (or Bold Italic) style of a typeface and will apply to Uppercase letters only.

In addition, if there are OpenType features, there will be a small «o» icon on the bottom of a frame when it is selected with the Selection tool. Click the icon to see a list of OpenType features available.

Ligatures are available to you in Avenir Light. Try typing «efficient» and turn ligatures on and off with the word selected.

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I have a same issue. Yesterday .indd let me make this PDF. (see 1)
but today I open the same .indd (packaged file. no fonts are missing) not does not display the font in the layout. (see 2)

This is not because the text box is smaller and is cutting off the text. It does not even highlight the content.
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Are you using an Adobe «Pro» font? Also, not all Pro fonts support all the OpenType features—that’s up to the font designer. 

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A few questions:

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  • Which OpenType features do you need?
  • When you go the the Character panel menu > Open Type, do the features have square brackets indicating they are not available with that typeface?
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  Hello Jane, 

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i wanted to inform you i am merely a beginner and may take a bit longer to process any new topics and excuse that.

i am using an Avenir with a Light typeface. For the OpenType features I needed them to just play around  with different styles and ligatures. Kind of an exploration thing. 

And yes, when i go into Character panel menu, OpenType, the feautures have sq brakets Screenshot 2021-02-17 at 11.44.35.png

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If this is not an Adobe font or Linotype font (Avenir is/was licensed by Adobe from Linotype), then it may not be OpenType. Adobe fonts [usually] have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. Linotype also has the Pro distinction on the Avenir font name. 

image.png

If you are using the Mac version of Avenir, it probably is not an extended (Pro) font. I’m not in front of my Mac right now, but you can check the Glyphs panel to see how many characters and features the font has. 

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If this is an Adobe font (Avenir is licensed by Adobe from Linotype), then it is not OpenType. Adobe fonts have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. 


This makes no sense at all! All Adobe fonts now are OpenType. They can be OpenType Pro with more glyphs or just ‘standard’, that is still OpenType.

You seem somewhat confused here.

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The Avenir font family is not provided by the Adobe Fonts service. And not all “Adobe fonts” (assuming you mean fonts available through the Adobe Fonts service) have either Pro or Std in their name.

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  • When you go the the Character panel menu > Open Type, do the features have square brackets indicating they are not available with that typeface?

Hi @fanbrahms 

It’s up to the type designer to choose what to build into each typeface.

Since you are just playing around, open the Glyphs panel from the Type menu as you play and keep an eye on it. Some OpenType features, such as Swash, may be available only on the Italic (or Bold Italic) style of a typeface and will apply to Uppercase letters only.

In addition, if there are OpenType features, there will be a small «o» icon on the bottom of a frame when it is selected with the Selection tool. Click the icon to see a list of OpenType features available.

Ligatures are available to you in Avenir Light. Try typing «efficient» and turn ligatures on and off with the word selected.

Have fun playing!

~ Jane

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There is your answer, when there are square brackets around the option they are not available in that specific font… Best to try another, extended, OT Font.

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I have a same issue. Yesterday .indd let me make this PDF. (see 1)
but today I open the same .indd (packaged file. no fonts are missing) not does not display the font in the layout. (see 2)

This is not because the text box is smaller and is cutting off the text. It does not even highlight the content.
HELP. 

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I’m not sure what your issue is, which version of InDesign and OS do you have?

How much RAM do you have?

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I am using the lastes version of both InDesign 16.1 and my macOS Big Sur

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Are you using an Adobe «Pro» font? Also, not all Pro fonts support all the OpenType features—that’s up to the font designer. 

The OT properties can work with extended fonts from other foundries, but you already have access to many Adobe Pro fonts.

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Hi

A few questions:

  • Which specific typefaces are you trying?
  • Which OpenType features do you need?
  • When you go the the Character panel menu > Open Type, do the features have square brackets indicating they are not available with that typeface?
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  Hello Jane, 

sorry for this delay,

if you are still here to help,

i wanted to inform you i am merely a beginner and may take a bit longer to process any new topics and excuse that.

i am using an Avenir with a Light typeface. For the OpenType features I needed them to just play around  with different styles and ligatures. Kind of an exploration thing. 

And yes, when i go into Character panel menu, OpenType, the feautures have sq brakets Screenshot 2021-02-17 at 11.44.35.png

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If this is not an Adobe font or Linotype font (Avenir is/was licensed by Adobe from Linotype), then it may not be OpenType. Adobe fonts [usually] have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. Linotype also has the Pro distinction on the Avenir font name. 

image.png

If you are using the Mac version of Avenir, it probably is not an extended (Pro) font. I’m not in front of my Mac right now, but you can check the Glyphs panel to see how many characters and features the font has. 

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If this is an Adobe font (Avenir is licensed by Adobe from Linotype), then it is not OpenType. Adobe fonts have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. 


This makes no sense at all! All Adobe fonts now are OpenType. They can be OpenType Pro with more glyphs or just ‘standard’, that is still OpenType.

You seem somewhat confused here.

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That was a typing error on my part from too much cut-and-paste while writing the response.

>You seem somewhat confused here.

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If this is an Adobe font (Avenir is licensed by Adobe from Linotype), then it is not OpenType. Adobe fonts have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. Linotype also has the Pro distinction on the Avenir font name. …

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Correct—but it is included in the Adobe Font Folio CD. That is where my screen capture came from. I was referring to that font in my capture. 

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  • When you go the the Character panel menu > Open Type, do the features have square brackets indicating they are not available with that typeface?

Hi @fanbrahms 

It’s up to the type designer to choose what to build into each typeface.

Since you are just playing around, open the Glyphs panel from the Type menu as you play and keep an eye on it. Some OpenType features, such as Swash, may be available only on the Italic (or Bold Italic) style of a typeface and will apply to Uppercase letters only.

In addition, if there are OpenType features, there will be a small «o» icon on the bottom of a frame when it is selected with the Selection tool. Click the icon to see a list of OpenType features available.

Ligatures are available to you in Avenir Light. Try typing «efficient» and turn ligatures on and off with the word selected.

Have fun playing!

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I have a same issue. Yesterday .indd let me make this PDF. (see 1)
but today I open the same .indd (packaged file. no fonts are missing) not does not display the font in the layout. (see 2)

This is not because the text box is smaller and is cutting off the text. It does not even highlight the content.
HELP. 

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Are you using an Adobe «Pro» font? Also, not all Pro fonts support all the OpenType features—that’s up to the font designer. 

The OT properties can work with extended fonts from other foundries, but you already have access to many Adobe Pro fonts.

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A few questions:

  • Which specific typefaces are you trying?
  • Which OpenType features do you need?
  • When you go the the Character panel menu > Open Type, do the features have square brackets indicating they are not available with that typeface?
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i wanted to inform you i am merely a beginner and may take a bit longer to process any new topics and excuse that.

i am using an Avenir with a Light typeface. For the OpenType features I needed them to just play around  with different styles and ligatures. Kind of an exploration thing. 

And yes, when i go into Character panel menu, OpenType, the feautures have sq brakets Screenshot 2021-02-17 at 11.44.35.png

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If this is not an Adobe font or Linotype font (Avenir is/was licensed by Adobe from Linotype), then it may not be OpenType. Adobe fonts [usually] have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. Linotype also has the Pro distinction on the Avenir font name. 

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If you are using the Mac version of Avenir, it probably is not an extended (Pro) font. I’m not in front of my Mac right now, but you can check the Glyphs panel to see how many characters and features the font has. 

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If this is an Adobe font (Avenir is licensed by Adobe from Linotype), then it is not OpenType. Adobe fonts have either Pro or Std at the end of the font name. 


This makes no sense at all! All Adobe fonts now are OpenType. They can be OpenType Pro with more glyphs or just ‘standard’, that is still OpenType.

You seem somewhat confused here.

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Hi @fanbrahms 

It’s up to the type designer to choose what to build into each typeface.

Since you are just playing around, open the Glyphs panel from the Type menu as you play and keep an eye on it. Some OpenType features, such as Swash, may be available only on the Italic (or Bold Italic) style of a typeface and will apply to Uppercase letters only.

In addition, if there are OpenType features, there will be a small «o» icon on the bottom of a frame when it is selected with the Selection tool. Click the icon to see a list of OpenType features available.

Ligatures are available to you in Avenir Light. Try typing «efficient» and turn ligatures on and off with the word selected.

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+100005000 в карму тому, кто сможет помочь мне с этой проблемой. 'alil' Уже ВСЁ перепробовала, я в отчаянии.

Ситуация:
Индийский текст копирую из файла вставляю в индизайн — слетают лигатуры (хотя даже в том же ворде они были!). Шрифт Adobe Devanagari или Siddhanta — результат один и тот же (видимо, дело не в шрифите). Как сделать лигатуры? Во всех остальных (фотошоп, иллюстратор) — он делает лигатуры автоматически.

А в индизе нафиг шлёт, отвечая, что, мол, «Свойство OpenType не могут быть применены.» Что делать? 'hz'

Всё наглядно видно в прикреплённых скринах.

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  • #2

Подозреваю, что для индийского текста есть какой-то индийский индизайн. По аналогии с еврейско-арабской версией.

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  • #3

Есть тут один санскритолог.
@gasyoun
Только давно не заходил сюда.

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  • #4

Подозреваю, что для индийского текста есть какой-то индийский индизайн. По аналогии с еврейско-арабской версией.

Подозреваю что нет, список есть в приложении Cloud

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  • #5

first that you needed Adobe World-Ready Paragraph Composer switched on in the Preferences

'hz'

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  • #6

Еще с 2018 устанавливается скрипт

118723

Indic Preferences. This script is actually not in the Samples folder; it’s loose at the top level of the Scripts panel. Indic refers to languages from the Indian subcontinent. If you’re typesetting in Hindi or Bengali or something like that, you’d use this to turn on an internal setting that helps with those languages. If you don’t, then ignore it. In fact, you should specifically not run it because there is no user interface and there is no way (other than rebuilding your preferences) to reverse it. See more in the links on this podcast page.

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  • #7

Есть тут один санскритолог.
@gasyoun
Только давно не заходил сюда.


Не по теме:
Меня терзают смутные сомнения, что даже если б он сидел тут круглосуточно, пользы от него в данном вопросе было б примерно столько, как козе от баяна '))'

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  • #8

В санскрите лигатур очень много. Попробуйте другой шрифт. Меня выручил Noto Sans Devanagari, когда делал справочник по грамматике.

Никаких других «заморочек» нет. Если Noto от Google не подойдет, ищите другой с максимальным количеством лигатур, но мне, честно говоря, более объемный шрифт не встречался

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  • #9

В санскрите лигатур очень много. Попробуйте другой шрифт. Меня выручил Noto Sans Devanagari, когда делал справочник по грамматике.

Никаких других «заморочек» нет. Если Noto от Google не подойдет, ищите другой с максимальным количеством лигатур, но мне, честно говоря, более объемный шрифт не встречался

Вы делали справочник в индизайне? И получалось скопировать и вставить лигатуру? Если да, то какая версия индизайна была?

Предложенный вами шрифт я попробовала, но проблема одна и та же — при вставке лигатура превращается в 2 отдельные буквы (через вираму короче).

Alasaila


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  • #11

А вот не надо присваивать общественное достояние.

Сантори не ваш герой, а всехний)))

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  • #12

Последнее редактирование модератором: 30.05.2019

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Для людей с подобной проблемой сделала простой поясняющий видос:

InDesign качество картинок жуткое, в чем может быть проблема?

Качество png картинок (иконок — размер 240x240px) ужасное при экспорте документа в pdf из InDesign (см. скрин), хотя в InDesign отображается отлично. Картинки при вставке уменьшаю (50x50px) с соблюдением пропорций (но даже и без ресайза все ужасно).
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Просмотрел мануалы, пробежался по статьям и вопросам в интернете, перепробывал все указанное — не помогло, делал:
1) вставлял не только перетаскиванием, но и File -> Place.
2) переводил в формат jpg c заливкой фона
3) меня свойство у картинки на Display Performance -> High Quality Display
4) менял настройки при Export. на high

PS: если что-то пропустил в мануалах — ткните, пожалуйста, носом. Буду признателен, если найдется выход без перерисовки иконок в иллюстраторе.

Допечатная подготовка в inDesign

Корректно подготовить сверстанный проект к печати — довольно трудоемкая задача. Нужно проверить шрифты, изображения, цвета, формат, учесть прозрачные элементы, настроить экспорт, чтобы типография приняла файл в печать. Расскажу, что и как делаю я для периодического издания «Агроинвестор».

Параметр Bleed

Перед началом работы на этапе создания нового документа обязательно нужно установить параметр Bleed. Его значение можно узнать в типографии, как правило, это 3—5 мм:

Это нужно, чтобы контролировать элементы, которые идут под обрез. В документе Bleed отображается красной рамкой по контуру рабочей зоны. На изображении ниже видно, что линия в колонтитуле выходит за пределы листа и доходит до красной рамки:

Это значит, что в печатном виде страница будет выглядеть так:

Если линию довести не до красной рамки, а оставить в упор у края листа:

В печати мы рискуем получить такой результат:

Дело в том, что при печати под обрез всегда есть погрешность в 2—3 мм, как внутрь рабочей зоны, так и за ее пределы. Параметр Bleed помогает устранить эту погрешность.

Режим Preview

В процессе верстки я всегда переключаюсь между режимами просмотра Normal и Preview. Режим Preview помогает отследить, чтобы все вылеты под обрез действительно были под обрез, а значимые элементы оставались в пределах печатной зоны. На изображениях ниже можно увидеть, что линии в верхнем и нижнем колонтитулах выходят за пределы печатной зоны, а значит они будут корректно обрезаны. Preview показывает, как сверстанный разворот будет выглядеть в печати:

Режим просмостра High Quality Display

Чтобы контролировать разрешение изображений, я работаю в режиме High Quality Display. Если изображение размытое или пиксельное, значит нужно обратить на него внимание. Ниже я расскажу о более точном контроле изображений, но на этапе верстки режима High Quality Display вполне достаточно:

Текст и орфография

В процессе верстки всегда проверяю хвосты в текстовых боксах. Красный плюсик в правом нижнем углу значит, что внутри бокса остался скрытый текст, — это нужно исправить:

Чтобы посмотреть сколько текста висит хвостом, можно нажать на плюсик и создать еще один текстовый бокс, а еще можно включить Story Editor:

Тогда появится окно, которое покажет весь текст фрейма. Серая горизонтальная линия Overset и красная вертикальная линия обозначили кусок текста, который не отображается:

Для контроля орфографии я включаю режим Dynamic Spelling:

Он автоматически подчеркивает незнакомые слова и слова, которые могут содержать ошибку, совсем как текстовый редактор:

Красное подчеркивание означает грамматическую ошибку. Зеленое подчеркивание показывает, что перед словом стоит точка, а значит оно должно начинаться с заглавной буквы. В моем случае это ошибкой не считается 🙂

Если выбрать Check Spelling, то можно вручную пройтись по всем подчеркнутым словам и заменить их при необходимости.

Проверка изображений

Режим High Quality Display позволяет визуально отслеживать качество изображений. Для более точного контроля у меня настроена панель Links:

Мне удобно видеть следующие значения:

Так это отображается в документе с изображениями:

Видно, что цветовая схема изображений RGB и качество низкое, в печать такое не отправить. После подготовки изображений к печати (об этом будет отдельный пост), значения выглядят так:

Теперь я вижу, что все изображения в документе готовы к печати.

Проверка шрифтов

В работе над периодичным изданием я использую текстовые стили, о них писала в посте об оптимизации работы над журналом, поэтому со шрифтами у меня всегда порядок. Но если проект новый, то перед отправкой в типографию всегда проверяю, какие шрифты используются в документе. Это нужно для того, чтобы в печать случайно не ушел какой-то «левый» шрифт или шрифт без соответствующей лицензии. Посмотреть шрифты можно в самом документе:

И если необходимо, сразу заменить случайный шрифт:

Также все шрифты можно посмотреть непосредственно перед экспортом файла в печать, об этом расскажу дальше.

Кроме того следует проверить тип шрифтов — OpenType или TrueType. Некоторые типографии могут не принять макет, если в нем будут шрифты Трутайп, например. Такие шрифты можно перевести в кривые.

Проверка на ошибки

Ошибки в файле я отслеживаю в панели внизу слева:

Если визуально я не могу найти ошибку, то на помощь приходит панель Preflight. Также ей удобно пользоваться, если ошибок много:

Все ок, когда индикатор в нижней панели светится зеленым:

Панель Preflight можно настраивать для каждого нового проекта, но базовых настроек в целом достаточно.

Еще ошибки можно отследить непосредственно в процессе упаковки файлов в печать, об расскажу этом дальше.

Контроль черного

По требованиям типографии сумма красок для черного цвета в изображениях не должна превышать 300%. Проверить это можно с помощью панели Separations Preview, я установила значение Ink Limit 300%. Так я вижу фрагменты изображения с превышенным лимитом красок — они подсвечены красным цветом:

Чтобы это исправить, я сохраняю изображение в цветовом профиле ISO Coated v2 300 (ECI) — именно с ним работает наша типография. Про цветовые профили расскажу подробно в отдельном посте. Обновляю изображение и снова смотрю через Separations Preview:

Если где-то присутствует плашечный черный, важно не забыть сделать его составным, например, 50 50 50 100 (CMYK). Если взять черный составом 0 0 0 100, то есть 100% только черной краски, то в печати рискуем получить «выгоревший» цвет:

Прозрачность

Еще один момент — проверить макет на предмет прозрачных объектов. Это нужно для того, чтобы в печати все прозрачные объекты и элементы, на которые они влияют, пропечатались корректно — как задумано дизайном. Для примера я добавила в макет прозрачный прямоугольник. В режиме Flattener Preview все прозрачности выделены красным:

Там же можно посмотреть все подверженные прозрачности элементы, то есть те, которые затрагивает прозрачный прямоугольник:

Особенно важно проверять прозрачность, если типография требует файл совместимый с Acrobat 4 (PDF 1.3), так как именно эта версия не поддерживает прозрачные объекты. Это значит, что при экспорте все прозрачности будут растрированы и им нужно задать параметры экспорта. Сделать это можно в панели Flattener Preview:

Так мы создаем пресет с нужными настройками и используем его при экспорте. Я знаю, что в макетах журанала «Агроинвестор» нет прозрачностей, поэтому не заморачиваюсь с пресетом, а просто использую встроенный пресет High Resolution:

Экспорт

В работе с журналом я использую формат Book в InDesign (расскажу о нем в отдельном посте), поэтому для экспорта файла в печать использую команду Package Book For Print. Выскакивает окно, в котором я могу галочками отметить все, что хочу получить в пакет экспорта — мне нужен только PDF-файл, а также выбираю заранее сохраненный пресет экспорта для «Агроинвестора»:

Професионалы, помогите: мои изображения в InDesign теряют чёткость границ!?

Нажать Ctrl+Alt+H — переключение в режмим качественного просмотра. Ctrl+Alt+Z — обратно в режим превью. Неужели вы никогда не сталкивались с таким делом? ВСЕ абсолютно ВСЕ верстальные программы по умолчанию показывают графику в низком разрешении. Чтоб комп не перегружать.

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Прошу прощения за неосведомлённость, но я только не давно познакомилась с єтой программой и большинство из Ваших слов не поняла. Я делаю так: в фотошопе у меня разрешение 300 и RBG я выделяю фотку, нажимаю CTRL+C в фотошопе и в индиз CTRL+V. И так все фотки вставляю, но одни нормальные, а некоторые .

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Заранее прошу прощения, если такой вопрос уже поднимался. В интернете и в сообществе ничего не нашла по теме.. Либо не там искала, в общем, ткните носом?

Верстаю фотокниги в Индизайне СС. Проблема в том, что настройки качества изображений слетают после закрытия. Когда вставляю, по умолчанию Display Performance ставится «Use View Settings», фотографии пиксельные. В таком же виде и экспортируются, если не поменять. Ставлю «High Quality Display», картинка становится адекватной. Но при закрытии все эти настройки слетают и, когда снова открываю книгу, снова все картинки пиксельные.

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