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I was about to spec into crafting but after seeing this, gave up on it. I’ll just hope to find good loot. Hopefully they can fix this absurdity soon.

My Paradox game savefiles can reach into a hundred megabytes without problem, why are we having such a low limit in 2020? The game takes up 60GBs and 8MB had to be the Y2K limit for savegames?

I was about to spec into crafting but after seeing this, gave up on it. I’ll just hope to find good loot. Hopefully they can fix this absurdity soon.

My Paradox game savefiles can reach into a hundred megabytes without problem, why are we having such a low limit in 2020? The game takes up 60GBs and 8MB had to be the Y2K limit for savegames?

after 5.5 MBs it takes about a minute to load saves. Maybe it was their safeguard maybe they knew there was a problem with it. Who knows I just hope they fix this ASAP

114 hours in, I just got this same message. Been doing side missions and earning money to buy gear needed to progress without enemies being bullet sponges. So, while I havent progressed far in the Main story, I’ve done a rather silly amount of side missions.

I’ve already long since saved over older files before using crafting for money. Everything I pick up that sells for less than the components they break down into are disassembled and used to create new weapons to sell.

I’ve noticed the same thing others have:
1- Load times hang on a black screen for between 30 seconds to 2 minutes. (I can only guess the time increases based on file size)
2 — then the save files become «damaged» and can no longer be loaded.

Who in their right mind designs a game with 8mb total capacity for a load, for a game that was over 60 gigs to play no less?

I love the game, but if after 114 hours, I lose all my work… I’ll drop it and play something else.
Minor bugs such as graphical glitches, low FPS for AMD CPU and an un-optimized game I can deal with. To make it so that crafting, a part of the game some of us enjoy and a way to generate money (there’s even a perk to increase sale prices), breaks the save files is just plain wrong.

I’ve submitted reports to the technical forums. As of now, crafting is a useless tree to spec in if crafted goods break the game by increasing the file size.

Edit: for anyone curious, I save over older files because I dont want to be able to go back and make new choices (as I know I would) if my choices turn out to be less than satisfactory. Makes any playthrough unique.

Not all games are designed for unlimited, endless play. Not all games are designed for NG++++ etc. CP2077, as of now, seems to have been designed with upper limits in place (likely to avoid issues elsewhere in the engine, just like TW3).

The workaround for now?

Don’t do it. Play the game until the end, then start a new game. Don’t continue saving and reloading the same character for too long. Don’t craft thousands of items at once.

Is that ideal? No. And hopefully it can be worked out in the future. Although…maybe not. No game that CDPR has ever created has ever been designed for ongoing, unlimited play. (NG+ was added into TW3 after its release; it was never intended. It was extremely difficult to get working without major issues, is capped at level 100, still gets wildly weird at higher levels, and there is no NG++. It can only be done once per playthrough.) CDPR designs their games with a finite structure: with a beginning, a middle, and an end. They are not meant to be played on and on like Dark Souls, GTA, or an MMO. They’re meant to be restarted from the beginning with a new character and played differently. Love it or loathe it, that’s the design.

I’m sorry but this is a gross misinterpretation of the problem, people’s save files are being corrupted before even finishing the game.

I never had any problems with the Witcher 3 even when playing deep into NG+. They have a crafting skill tree in this game, it seems like passing the blame onto players in disingenuous. How many items should one be able to craft? How many times should one be able to save? How many hours is acceptable to clock for a single playthrough? I get that this game has a laundry list of bugs and a ton of fires to put out, but this one simply needs to be added to that list and not hand waved away.

I’ve never had to deal with it in my game, either, but I assure you there were quite a few people that wound up with inventory issues because of this inherent limitation of the engine. There were even some members of the community that built a utility to help (PC players at least) recover a functional save if it happened. But there is no «fix» for it — it’s just not how the game was designed. It sounds like it may be a manifestation of the same type of thing here.

And it has nothing to do with blame. It has to do with reality. If I buy a Dodge pick-up, then try to outrun a Ferrari…I’m gonna lose. Every single time. If I try to haul a grand piano with a Ferrari…it’s not gonna fit. Ever. That’s not anyone’s «fault». I’m just trying to use the machine for something it wasn’t designed to do.

I can be disappointed. I can complain. I can get all upset about it. The Dodge is never going to win races against sports cars, and the Ferrari is never going to work like hauler. That’s not the way the machines were built.

Basically I discovered that with perks, you can craft items like the bounce back, then disassemble it for more materials than it cost to craft it. I’m using this to get lots of materials to then upgrade my equipment to the max and also get crafting to level 20. After further review of the save game files, I found there’s a max limit of 8MB on save game files because the save files would stop increasing in size once they hit that limit.

Crafting seems to cause the save file to increase in size fairly quickly, even if you use up the components or sell them to a vendor, the save file does not decrease in size.

I’ve already loaded a previous save to continue playing. I would consider the save file max size and/or crafting causing the save file to grow in size counts as a bug, but not sure which is the easier problem to fix.

Cool — if you’re willing, can you confirm if the same type of thing happens when your craft different items…or does the size of the save file increase that way with everything? Not sure why the limit is there, but there’s got to be some reason. What I’m guessing now is that it might be some sort of «bloat», like in Beth games. For example, a script that never terminates properly when you craft the items, running on and on. Then using the crafting skill again creates another instance of the same script, and the references start to dogpile onto your save. Something like that.

I’ve never had to deal with it in my game, either, but I assure you there were quite a few people that wound up with inventory issues because of this inherent limitation of the engine. There were even some members of the community that built a utility to help (PC players at least) recover a functional save if it happened. But there is no «fix» for it — it’s just not how the game was designed. It sounds like it may be a manifestation of the same type of thing here.

And it has nothing to do with blame. It has to do with reality. If I buy a Dodge pick-up, then try to outrun a Ferrari…I’m gonna lose. Every single time. If I try to haul a grand piano with a Ferrari…it’s not gonna fit. Ever. That’s not anyone’s «fault». I’m just trying to use the machine for something it wasn’t designed to do.

I can be disappointed. I can complain. I can get all upset about it. The Dodge is never going to win races against sports cars, and the Ferrari is never going to work like hauler. That’s not the way the machines were built.

Cool — if you’re willing, can you confirm if the same type of thing happens when your craft different items…or does the size of the save file increase that way with everything? Not sure why the limit is there, but there’s got to be some reason. What I’m guessing now is that it might be some sort of «bloat», like in Beth games. For example, a script that never terminates properly when you craft the items, running on and on. Then using the crafting skill again creates another instance of the same script, and the references start to dogpile onto your save. Something like that.

But if I buy a Dodge I know it won’t outrun a Ferrari. If I buy a Ferrari I know I can’t haul a grand piano. If I use crafting in a game that promotes it I cannot be expected to know it will break. If this was a known issue in TW3 then it should either have gotten more attention in Cyberpunk’s development or the ability should not have been added in the first place.

The blame cannot be placed with players who had no idea this was an issue. Not that I necessarily blame the devs either; it was probably just an oversight. But it should still be fixed, not just for new players but for those with files already affected as well, and considering it’s literally gamebreaking it should be given a priority.

Also, this was said to be a game that would last you well over a hundred hours if you wanted to do everything with one character. I don’t think any of us are playing it «wrong».

All that said, I hope you don’t take any of this the wrong way. Everyone here is frustrated, including me (I put 85 hours into it and can’t continue) but I appreciate you giving your take on this issue, even though I don’t agree with it.

The real question becomes:

How hard is it to increase or simply remove the 8mb cap from the game’s launcher/loader?

Find a couple of lines of code and change it so that the cap is 50mb, 100, or uncapped? I am no coder, but there are posts about changing a single number in a line of HEX to make the game run better on AMD CPUs. I cant see changing the 8mb cap as being insurmountable.

The game is 60+ gigs and we are limited to playing with less than 8mb… the answer cannot be to simply not craft. In any game where there is crafting, gamers grind out crafted goods for resale. CDPR didn’t see gamers grinding out goods when there were perks that made it easier to disassemble crap weapons and create better ones for resale or for leveling? The same way that you basically need to punch walls for 8 hours to level athletics to 8 or 9. If grinding out levels in something creates a «damaged» file, that seems like something that should’ve been tested or warned about before release.

Yes. Obviously there’s an issue. What I’m saying is: it’s something like this.

E.g. if the game was designed to be completed in 30-50 hours, and players don’t complete the game, same difference. They play for 80+ hours, and/or also use skills that were never designed for endless grinding 10,000 times — you may trigger something the engine isn’t ready for.

So, we have two options:

1.) Avoid that issue, if we can, and try to figure out what’s causing it. There’s probably a way to work around or fix it, but it will likely take time.

2.) Repeatedly do the same things again and again and wind up with a whole folder full of corrupted saves that are not going to help anyone.

Everyone is welcome to choose either option…but either way the problem is still going to be there.

Now, if I were able to psychically know what’s in the developers’ heads, or use transcendent powers to look into the future for the ultimate resolution, I would happily do so and post the fix here. As it stands, I’m only a mortal. So, instead, I’ll use my experience with a similar issue from the past, suggest what may work here, too, and hopefully save people some frustration.

If people are dissatisfied with that, they’re welcome to ignore it. Got no idea what’s happening for sure. Only what it sounds like.

I had to log in just because of this post. I’m sorry but this response is absolutely baffling. A moderator on this forum trying to blame the players for playing an open ended game wrong. «Hurry up you are not supposed to play this over certain number of hours!» «Stop grinding crafting». It’s not like grinding crafting is some sort of glitch people are abusing. This is a severe issue that needs to be fixed. «Stop playing the game wrong» coming from someone who represents this site as a moderator is absolutely unacceptable.

The real question becomes:

How hard is it to increase or simply remove the 8mb cap from the game’s launcher/loader?

Find a couple of lines of code and change it so that the cap is 50mb, 100, or uncapped? I am no coder, but there are posts about changing a single number in a line of HEX to make the game run better on AMD CPUs. I cant see changing the 8mb cap as being insurmountable.

The game is 60+ gigs and we are limited to playing with less than 8mb… the answer cannot be to simply not craft. In any game where there is crafting, gamers grind out crafted goods for resale. CDPR didn’t see gamers grinding out goods when there were perks that made it easier to disassemble crap weapons and create better ones for resale or for leveling? The same way that you basically need to punch walls for 8 hours to level athletics to 8 or 9. If grinding out levels in something creates a «damaged» file, that seems like something that should’ve been tested or warned about before release.

I am a developer and am a bit worried that people think about it so lightly. Don’t get me wrong; There *could* be a hardcoded cap. If that hardcoded cap exists, it rarely exists because it’s fun to have one. If there is a hardcoded cap, then it’s most likely there to prevent stuff from happening or to prevent stuff from not happening.

There seems to be something a bit weird about the savegames in Cyberpunk. I’m not sure what it is, but when you’ve got a couple of saves that are about 6~ mb’s big, opening the «save game» and «load game» options in the menu takes a while. So apparently the game is doing something with those saves. It could simply be a cloud connection, but it could also be that it is doing something funky with the files.

Then the points UrielSicarius wrote down: They almost make me think that, for whatever reason, the crafting resources are being saved as separate items instead of a currency. Even when I’m making a stretch I can’t really think of a reason to do that, so I’m not sure that is actually the case. It would explain why crafting 25 items with 50.000 resources lowers the save file size and it would also somewhat explain that it increases the save file size when creating 3000 items with 50.000 resources. If they store every item seperately (including resources), then it’s most likely also keeping attributes and the likes per item. Which could mean that flavortext, names, actions are being saved by items which would probably mean that 3.000 real items take more data then 50.000 resources.

I don’t know exactly what these save files contain. I don’t know why they contain certain stuff. But I do know that even if there is a hardcoded cap, that it most likely is there to prevent shit from not happening (Now it’s also preventing from shit not happening )

Maybe they’re lucky and increasing the cap is exactly the thing they can safely do. Amazing. But most of the time it’s not that simple.

I think they’ve got a lot of annoying things to look at right now, and I’m quite sure that this safe file problem is rather annoying too. Somewhere decisions have been made and if those decisions mean trouble now… well. That sucks and is going to take time to fix.

Dear Moderator,
People are rightfully pissed and most of us just want to go back to playing this bug-ridden game that we love.
You’re handling this wrong.

EDIT:

Ok, I’m just theorycrafting here, but the whole thing might be connected to the last perk in crafting tree, which increases cost of crafted items. Since the game allows to spend multiple points into it, in theory, the cost of the same item could be different every time and that might be the reason the game is tracking what you have crafted cuz it needs to know the selling multiplier of that exact item. Of course after you get rid of that crafted item the game should delete any info of that item from your save, but it looks like that is not happening for some reason. So, if the theory is right, it is fine to just dismantle stuff or upgrade items you have, but crafting any new item actually bloats your save every time.

80 hours in, same problem. Lots of crafting and disassembling but I haven’t leveled up the last skill on the tree. So I’m guessing your theory might be wrong.

There seems to be something a bit weird about the savegames in Cyberpunk. I’m not sure what it is, but when you’ve got a couple of saves that are about 6~ mb’s big, opening the «save game» and «load game» options in the menu takes a while. So apparently the game is doing something with those saves. It could simply be a cloud connection, but it could also be that it is doing something funky with the files.

Then the points UrielSicarius wrote down: They almost make me think that, for whatever reason, the crafting resources are being saved as separate items instead of a currency. Even when I’m making a stretch I can’t really think of a reason to do that, so I’m not sure that is actually the case. It would explain why crafting 25 items with 50.000 resources lowers the save file size and it would also somewhat explain that it increases the save file size when creating 3000 items with 50.000 resources. If they store every item seperately (including resources), then it’s most likely also keeping attributes and the likes per item. Which could mean that flavortext, names, actions are being saved by items which would probably mean that 3.000 real items take more data then 50.000 resources.

I don’t know exactly what these save files contain. I don’t know why they contain certain stuff. But I do know that even if there is a hardcoded cap, that it most likely is there to prevent shit from not happening (Now it’s also preventing from shit not happening )

Maybe they’re lucky and increasing the cap is exactly the thing they can safely do. Amazing. But most of the time it’s not that simple.

I think they’ve got a lot of annoying things to look at right now, and I’m quite sure that this safe file problem is rather annoying too. Somewhere decisions have been made and if those decisions mean trouble now… well. That sucks and is going to take time to fix.

I initially thought of cloud save issues to, but that wouldn’t seem to line up with the 8 MB limit. And the problem manifesting at that limit seems too coincidental and reproduceable already to be uninvolved.

Let me post this link again, from the TW3 days. Does anything there seem to line up with what you’re seeing here? It still feels very similar to me.

I am a developer and am a bit worried that people think about it so lightly. Don’t get me wrong; There *could* be a hardcoded cap. If that hardcoded cap exists, it rarely exists because it’s fun to have one. If there is a hardcoded cap, then it’s most likely there to prevent stuff from happening or to prevent stuff from not happening.

The real question becomes:

How hard is it to increase or simply remove the 8mb cap from the game’s launcher/loader?

Find a couple of lines of code and change it so that the cap is 50mb, 100, or uncapped? I am no coder, but there are posts about changing a single number in a line of HEX to make the game run better on AMD CPUs. I cant see changing the 8mb cap as being insurmountable.

The game is 60+ gigs and we are limited to playing with less than 8mb… the answer cannot be to simply not craft. In any game where there is crafting, gamers grind out crafted goods for resale. CDPR didn’t see gamers grinding out goods when there were perks that made it easier to disassemble crap weapons and create better ones for resale or for leveling? The same way that you basically need to punch walls for 8 hours to level athletics to 8 or 9. If grinding out levels in something creates a «damaged» file, that seems like something that should’ve been tested or warned about before release.

There are several things about the game right now that are definitely inconvenient or odd, but obviously done purposefully. (This savegame size cap and keyboard keys being hard-bound are the two that stand out to me.) Again, the only thing I can infer is that the limitations are somehow there to prevent errors from occurring. Not really that far of a stretch to think they might be causing still other errors.

Of course, I think they knew that players would do it. I think TW3 made that clear. But on the same token, that doesn’t mean that the engine could be made to allow for it to happen. Since this seems to happening so quickly, though, I think it’s more down to a script or inventory glitch.

Ok, I’m just theorycrafting here, but the whole thing might be connected to the last perk in crafting tree, which increases cost of crafted items. Since the game allows to spend multiple points into it, in theory, the cost of the same item could be different every time and that might be the reason the game is tracking what you have crafted cuz it needs to know the selling multiplier of that exact item. Of course after you get rid of that crafted item the game should delete any info of that item from your save, but it looks like that is not happening for some reason. So, if the theory is right, it is fine to just dismantle stuff or upgrade items you have, but crafting any new item actually bloats your save every time.

It’s all theory right now. That’s the fun of troubleshooting! But yes, I agree that what’s happening does seem to be in line with the «bloat» idea. I was speculating earlier about it maybe being a script associated with crafting that would never correctly terminate, so that every save would add another instance of it that would also never terminate.

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Dear Moderator,
People are rightfully pissed and most of us just want to go back to playing this bug-ridden game that we love.
You’re handling this wrong.

EDIT:

80 hours in, same problem. Lots of crafting and disassembling but I haven’t leveled up the last skill on the tree. So I’m guessing your theory might be wrong.

I’m not saying that you need that to take that perk to save bloat. I’m saying that the system records crafting history because that perk exists. Doesn’t matter if you’ve taken it or not the history is being recorded anyway. That perk is like the only reason to do that really imo.