Waves license error no valid waves licenses found

Waves Plugins — No License Found RonnyC New Member When I installed Luna, I did not have my Waves USB Dongle inserted. Now that the Waves USB dongle is connected, I get a «No License Found» prompt when I try to insert a Waves plugin. Am I missing something? Is there a way to […]

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Waves Plugins — No License Found

RonnyC

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When I installed Luna, I did not have my Waves USB Dongle inserted.

Now that the Waves USB dongle is connected, I get a «No License Found» prompt when I try to insert a Waves plugin.

Am I missing something?

Is there a way to rescan my available Waves Central licenses ?

How can I force Luna to update License preferences, etc?

Any other advice?

Thanks for your help, in advance.

Matt Hepworth

Master of the UADiverse

When I installed Luna, I did not have my Waves USB Dongle inserted.

Now that the Waves USB dongle is connected, I get a «No License Found» prompt when I try to insert a Waves plugin.

Am I missing something?

Is there a way to rescan my available Waves Central licenses ?

How can I force Luna to update License preferences, etc?

Any other advice?

Thanks for your help, in advance.

From Drew in the Mega Thread:
«Try this to force a rescan:

/Library/Application Support/Universal Audio/workspace/AUPlug-Ins.json

and relaunch LUNA»

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Waves license error no valid waves licenses found

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Waves Licensing Error

Hello, when I try to open some of my older projects that have a lot of tracks, instruments and Fx, everything loads fine except my Waves Plugins. I get an error message saying. «Waves Licensing Error» (Waves Plugin does not have a license. Please Check that you have a valid license.) It will do this for every waves plugin that is used in the project.

All of my waves plugins are updated and registered perfectly. They will load up on any new sessions and any older ones that don’t have a lot of tracks and memory usage.

Again, its ONLY when opening projects with high memory usage (Memory usage is high but not maxed out).

If anyone has had this problem and fixed it please let me know.

I have to go back and change a few tracks for a client but I can’t get into these sessions. This error message is causing me to lose money and reputation.
As every producer knows, its an absolute necessity to be able to open up older projects to tweak for their clients, so this problem needs to be fixed.

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Waves license error no valid waves licenses found

Hi and welcome to the forums!
Have you tried doing a clear/rescan of your vst locations box in reaper?
It could be that simple. Because Waves use their prorietary waveShell system to allow all DAWs to translate their plugins, it means reaper never really sees the plugins, just the shell. So unless you CLEAR and rescan, Reaper will assume nothing changed. Not saying this is a surefire fix, but worth a try.
My advice would be to go back to Waves Central & reinstall/authorise everything, then do a full clear/re-scan, not just a re-scan.

I am now having the same problem. Reaper not seeing Waves C1 Comp VST plugin.

First the easy part.

There are two ways to open reaper without the plugins that are in your project opening (or trying to) as well.
Easiest one is just go to the folder in your start bar/windows key labelled «reaper » or «reaper 64» and click on the «open a new project» option.
This will open a clean new project with no plugins & allow you to see if you can fix the issues you have.

The reason plugins are appearing «everywhere» is because you have both the 32bit and 64bit versions installed, which is the default installation method fior most plugin devs.

If you go to reaper.fm and download the user giude, plus check out the free video tutorials, one of which by Kenny Gioia explains all the ins and outs of plugin locations, etc., very well.

I am going to stress the difference between the re-scan optionand the clear/re-scan option in the options/preferences/plugins/vst window whee the plugin locations you have are listed. Waves hide their plugins in a special shell, which means that when you install a new waves plugin, reaper doesnt see a change because it`s just looking at the waveshell file. You have to do a clear rescan, which resets everything to zero and finds ALL your plugins anew. As far as you r actual waves installation is concerned, I would suggest you poen Waves Central and redo the installation making a note of where stuff is and then do another clear/re-scan.

I have always had issues with slate`s software, so you might want to temporarily uninstall it till your system is stable again.
GOod luck

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Waves license error no valid waves licenses found

I had a scarily similar issue with all Waves products over a year ago, and the Waves support response, after a few days, was to do a remote takeover (Teamviewer type thing) and «have a look around.

I have retired my Waves plugins.

. they basically laughed and told me that they were fairly confident that the problem was user error.

. I strongly urge you to start looking for replacement plugins. They are out there, and most are even better than what you had.

Very similar experience five years ago wherein Waves could care less that I had just purchased a $1900 bundle. I purchased the wrong one and had the wrong operating system as they did not support that version of windows. (the current one at the time).

They were glad to speak with me for $340 more and see what else I needed to purchase.

I retired the Waves plug-ins too. My iZotope tools are much better, and much more ethical in their business revenue/support model.

Waves is a great example of the King Has no Clothes fable — people just keep saying they are good. But they are not anything special, above what you can find as an ethical alternative if you do your homework. For example, epicVerb, a free reverb plugin tops anything that Waves had in its aresenal when I switched. Similarly, the band compression and spectrum capabilities of Sony Spectral Layers or iZotope Ozone 6 easily top Waves in comparison at a much better cost.

Very similar experience five years ago wherein Waves could care less that I had just purchased a $1900 bundle. I purchased the wrong one and had the wrong operating system as they did not support that version of windows. (the current one at the time).

They were glad to speak with me for $340 more and see what else I needed to purchase.

I retired the Waves plug-ins too. My iZotope tools are much better, and much more ethical in their business revenue/support model.

Waves is a great example of the King Has no Clothes fable — people just keep saying they are good. But they are not anything special, above what you can find as an ethical alternative if you do your homework. For example, epicVerb, a free reverb plugin tops anything that Waves had in its aresenal when I switched. Similarly, the band compression and spectrum capabilities of Sony Spectral Layers or iZotope Ozone 6 easily top Waves in comparison at a much better cost.

There is a way to load your project with all FX disabled to prevent crashing out on initialization.

I forget exactly what it is, but I seem to remember something like holding alt or something when opening reaper or something like that. There is a way for sure. I’ve had to do that before.

There is a way to load your project with all FX disabled to prevent crashing out on initialization.

I forget exactly what it is, but I seem to remember something like holding alt or something when opening reaper or something like that. There is a way for sure. I’ve had to do that before.

hay hay my my you all making me scared about waves, im completely opposite I tried all other plugins until I started using waves now I just dont bother with other plugins my go to plugins are waves.

on another note where is your license kept i did not see that or maybe I missed it, even if you have changed your net work card you should still be able to use waves, if licenses is on USB you can put them on cloud, sort your machine dude then bring them back,

waves are not that silly to think that we dont change components on our system, or even build a new system, or even system brake down, buying software online is very dodgy but there are some safe guards we can do.

you should be able to send your license to cloud and all license are registered with waves .

I have removed two HD from my system and I still have waves working.

I can totally understand when things get messed up we wont to blame the product and tell them its your fault, my systems perfect its got to be the products fault,

We do a lot of things our self on our workstation a kind of do it your self but if you were in a company system you could not and will not be able to touch that machine if it brakes down or there was an error, the company would call in technicians who understands all the information about software and PC.

there are some of us me included that install software and close our eyes and hope for the best, not understanding conflicts or what adverse effect it can have on other programs on our system.

Some times when we install things a window item pops up and says this product is not registered and it may do harm to your system, how many of us have had those warnings but we still go ahead and install it anyway because we just got to have it.

few weeks down the line some thing stops working and we forgot about all those warning pop ups

So of course when we go back to the supplier they dont want to know, they cant be sure what crap we have on our system of course they will say get out of here dude.

Can you pay every time something goes wrong with your system can you pay a technician to rectify it some of us cant but that is what software demands that you get the right person to do the job some one who understands the ins and outs, but hay where living in the real world you say, well its not what software says.

there are to many questions to be answered before we can just blame one product and a hundred 1000 people our using that same product with out problems.

hay hay my my you all making me scared about waves, im completely opposite I tried all other plugins until I started using waves now I just dont bother with other plugins my go to plugins are waves.

on another note where is your license kept i did not see that or maybe I missed it, even if you have changed your net work card you should still be able to use waves, if licenses is on USB you can put them on cloud, sort your machine dude then bring them back,

waves are not that silly to think that we dont change components on our system, or even build a new system, or even system brake down, buying software online is very dodgy but there are some safe guards we can do.

you should be able to send your license to cloud and all license are registered with waves .

I have removed two HD from my system and I still have waves working.

I can totally understand when things get messed up we wont to blame the product and tell them its your fault, my systems perfect its got to be the products fault,

We do a lot of things our self on our workstation a kind of do it your self but if you were in a company system you could not and will not be able to touch that machine if it brakes down or there was an error, the company would call in technicians who understands all the information about software and PC.

there are some of us me included that install software and close our eyes and hope for the best, not understanding conflicts or what adverse effect it can have on other programs on our system.

Some times when we install things a window item pops up and says this product is not registered and it may do harm to your system, how many of us have had those warnings but we still go ahead and install it anyway because we just got to have it.

few weeks down the line some thing stops working and we forgot about all those warning pop ups

So of course when we go back to the supplier they dont want to know, they cant be sure what crap we have on our system of course they will say get out of here dude.

Can you pay every time something goes wrong with your system can you pay a technician to rectify it some of us cant but that is what software demands that you get the right person to do the job some one who understands the ins and outs, but hay where living in the real world you say, well its not what software says.

there are to many questions to be answered before we can just blame one product and a hundred 1000 people our using that same product with out problems.

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Как установить плагины Waves Complete — инструкция

*Все запуски установок, кидженов, патчеров делаются от имени администратора при любой установке и активации. Нигде и никакие папки откудакуда будет вестись установка на всем пути, по всему адресу, не должны содержать кириллистических знаков (исключения — системные папки типа Пользователи). Также, имя компьютера и учетная запись должны быть на латинице. В системе вы должны находится на правах администратора. В системе для этих плагинов у вас должны быть установлены Microsoft Visual C++ 2005-2008-2010-2012-2013-2015-2017, а также .NET Framework. Не нужно создавать матрешки из 15 папок и качать туда. Из-за длинных имен файлов папок будет ошибка при установке. Качайте в корень диска.

Удалить предыдущую версию. Очистить систему от всех оставшихся папок и все записи в реестре.

(C:Program FilesCommon FilesVST3 — WaveShell1-VST3.
C:Program FilesVSTPlugins — WaveShell1-VST.
C:Program Files (x86)Common FilesVST3 — WaveShell1-VST3.
C:Program Files (x86)Common Files — WPAPI
C:Program Files (x86)VstPlugins — WaveShell1-VST.
C:Program Files (x86) — Waves , Waves Central
C:UsersИМЯ — .Waves Central
C:UsersИМЯAppDataLocal — Waves Audio
C:UsersИМЯAppDataRoaming — Waves Audio
C:UsersPublic — Waves Audio)

1. Установить Install_Waves_Central.exe
2. Запустить его c:Program FilesWaves CentralWaves Central.exe
3. Нажать Оffline Installer, затем на Browse под строкой Install from an Offline installer и выбрать папку РАЗДАЧА:WC.НОМЕР ВЕРСИИWIN
4. Выбрать желаемые плагины из списка кроме любых библиотек (где будут надписи напротив — SD или HD должны быть серыми, не подсвеченными синим)


и в правой части окна нажать на кнопку Install.

5. После окончания установки скопировать папку WavesLicenseEngine.bundle из раздачи с заменой в C:ProgramDataWaves AudioModules

Рекомендуемый список плагинов для установки:

StudioRack, Abbey Road Collection, Abbey Road Studio 3, Mercury, SSL 4000 Collection, OVox Vocal ReSynthesis, Content Creator Audio Toolkit, DTS Neural™ Surround Collection, NX.bundle
и инструменты
Clavinet.bundle
Electric88.bundle
Electric200.bundle
Flow Motion.bundle
GrandRhapsody.bundle
Bass Slapper.bundle
Библиотеки для инструментов качаются отдельно. При выборе что устанавливать, библиотеки не выбираются, если вы не планируете использовать инструменты. Если же планируете и хотите, чтобы библиотеки установились сразу вместе с плагинами, тогда скачанную папку Instrument Data с ними перед установкой нужно поместить в . РаздачаWaves.12.Complete.vXXXXWavesInstallersV12, и в этом случае их надо отметить в Wave Central.

Если в FL отображаются только WaveShell
В менеджере плагинов ФЛ добавьте ещё одну дополнительную папку с VST плагинами по пути C:Program Files (x86)WavesPlug-Ins V12, затем пересканируйте плагины принудительно.

Во время установки появляется ошибка «sorry an error has occurred during installation»
Удалить папку cash (РАЗДАЧАWaves — 12 Complete vXXXDatacache)

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Waves Licensing Error

Hello, when I try to open some of my older projects that have a lot of tracks, instruments and Fx, everything loads fine except my Waves Plugins. I get an error message saying. «Waves Licensing Error» (Waves Plugin does not have a license. Please Check that you have a valid license.) It will do this for every waves plugin that is used in the project.

All of my waves plugins are updated and registered perfectly. They will load up on any new sessions and any older ones that don’t have a lot of tracks and memory usage.

Again, its ONLY when opening projects with high memory usage (Memory usage is high but not maxed out).

If anyone has had this problem and fixed it please let me know.

I have to go back and change a few tracks for a client but I can’t get into these sessions. This error message is causing me to lose money and reputation.
As every producer knows, its an absolute necessity to be able to open up older projects to tweak for their clients, so this problem needs to be fixed.

  • #1

When I installed Luna, I did not have my Waves USB Dongle inserted.

Now that the Waves USB dongle is connected, I get a «No License Found» prompt when I try to insert a Waves plugin.

Am I missing something?

Is there a way to rescan my available Waves Central licenses ?

How can I force Luna to update License preferences, etc?

Any other advice?

Thanks for your help, in advance.

Matt Hepworth


  • #2

When I installed Luna, I did not have my Waves USB Dongle inserted.

Now that the Waves USB dongle is connected, I get a «No License Found» prompt when I try to insert a Waves plugin.

Am I missing something?

Is there a way to rescan my available Waves Central licenses ?

How can I force Luna to update License preferences, etc?

Any other advice?

Thanks for your help, in advance.

From Drew in the Mega Thread:
«Try this to force a rescan:

Delete ~/Library/Application Support/Universal Audio/workspace/AUPlug-Ins.json

and relaunch LUNA»

  • #3

From Drew in the Mega Thread:
«Try this to force a rescan:

Delete ~/Library/Application Support/Universal Audio/workspace/AUPlug-Ins.json

and relaunch LUNA»

Thanks for the advice. I do not have «workspace/AUPlug-Ins.json» in my Universal Audio folder within Application support via Library

  • #4

Thanks for the advice. I do not have «workspace/AUPlug-Ins.json» in my Universal Audio folder within Application support via Library

Look in the User Library, not the main one.

  • #5

Look in the User Library, not the main one.

Yes! It worked. Thank you so so so so so much!

  • #6

it didn’t work for me. when i fire up Luna, it runs through all my Waves plugins and i have to skip scan for each one. any help?

  • #7

it didn’t work for me. when i fire up Luna, it runs through all my Waves plugins and i have to skip scan for each one. any help?

Hmmmm. I don’t know. Perhaps Matt Hepworth or UniversalAudio will offer some advice.

  • #8

Hi guys, same issue here. I can’t find the AUplug-ins.json file either, and there’s no path to get there under users. I tried deleting a plug-ins.json just on a whim that it could help and no dice. Just upgraded to the newest LUNA and that didn’t help either. Help appreciated!

  • #9

Hi guys, same issue here. I can’t find the AUplug-ins.json file either, and there’s no path to get there under users. I tried deleting a plug-ins.json just on a whim that it could help and no dice. Just upgraded to the newest LUNA and that didn’t help either. Help appreciated!

Try this:
https://nektony.com/blog/how-to-get-to-library-on-mac

This is where the files in question actually live, which is in a different location from the usual «Library» folder. Hope it helps

  • #10

Hello !
thank you for this license information. Do you have problems with some of your waves plugins? At my place, the compressors do not work despite the validation of the licenses. thank you for your help.

  • #11

Try this:
https://nektony.com/blog/how-to-get-to-library-on-mac

This is where the files in question actually live, which is in a different location from the usual «Library» folder. Hope it helps

Thanks, I found the file! Unfortunately, after deleting, emptying the trash and restarting Luna I had to spend 5 min clicking skip 100 times for every Wave plugin to get to the screen. No dice :(

  • #12

Hello !
thank you for this license information. Do you have problems with some of your waves plugins? At my place, the compressors do not work despite the validation of the licenses. thank you for your help.

I have not had any problems thus far.

  • #13

Anyone resolved this issue? I’d really like to use LUNA more but certain Waves plugs are part of my workflow

  • #14

What does Waves say about the issue ?

All my Waves are legitimate and load in Luna.

  • #15

Make sure you also authorize Waves and Luna in the Security and Privacy section of System preferences..I was able to finally see them In Luna not all of them but I’m still working on it….

  • #16

What does Waves say about the issue ?

All my Waves are legitimate and load in Luna.

Waves tech support about LUNA : «Please note that Universal Audio LUNA is not officially supported with Waves latest software version.
This does not necessarily mean that it won’t work, just that our software was not designed for it nor tested and qualified to run with it.
Due to this fact, we do not have a knowledge-base of possible issues. It might work fine, but if it doesn’t we will not be able to assist.»

Matt Hepworth


  • #17

So, what version is everybody using? I have mostly V9 on my system, along with a couple V10. V9 isn’t supported on Mojave, so maybe that’s the issue for some. V10 or 11 should work, if that’s the case, but that might mean WUP.

  • #18

So, what version is everybody using? I have mostly V9 on my system, along with a couple V10. V9 isn’t supported on Mojave, so maybe that’s the issue for some. V10 or 11 should work, if that’s the case, but that might mean WUP.

V11 on Catalina. I had to WUP ’cause V10 was not working. If I remember right, Waves requires V11 on Catalina. Other than this, I haven’t had ANY issues on Catalina (2017 MBP, a variety of 3rd party plugins and VIs).

  • #19

I have trouble with older Waves plugins (V9) but the PRS amps I bought last year loaded up in Luna without any incident.

Matt Hepworth


  • #20

I have trouble with older Waves plugins (V9) but the PRS amps I bought last year loaded up in Luna without any incident.

Which OS?

malenko

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Location: England

Anyone have trouble with Waves licenses?

Hi,

Since Christmas I’ve been buying a few Waves plugs in their weekly sales and up until now they have been working great.
Opened a set yesterday and tried to load a Waves plug in, into a track and got a Waves pop up saying I did not have a valid licence and to either click `rescan licenses` or `skip`. Rescan did not work so had to skip. After trying again and other Waves plugs, exactly same problem again.
After rescanning in Live’s preferences, nothing changed but after forcing rescan in preferences, Live then chose to not see the Waves plugs. After several forced rescans, Live would then see the Waves shell but no plugs.
The only way to get them back was to quit Live and reload and perform a force rescan again a few times to get them to appear again. They would then load in the blank set but as soon as I open the set I was working on again, they would do the same thing again.
After a very long and frustrating hour, I emailed Waves support and tried working on a different set, and they worked! So it seems it’s a selective set thing.
Waves Central was saying that everything was fine and up to date.

Anyone else have the same or similar problem?

Many thanks in advance


jlgrimes

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Location: Atlanta, Ga

Re: Anyone have trouble with Waves licenses?

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by jlgrimes » Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:24 pm

I only have a few Waves plug-ins. They are working fine.

My main gripe with Waves is that they only let you license the software on one machine. So to put it on another machine, you literally have to unlicense it off of the other machine.

Its a bummer because I like to work on one main computer and a laptop when I’m away from studio.

That said, it could be quite possible if you recently upgraded your computer, it could fool the Waves licensing software that you are on a different machine.

Upgrading processors, ram, Operating system, or maybe even hard drives can do this..

I would contact Waves support.

Good Luck.


malenko

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Location: England

Re: Anyone have trouble with Waves licenses?

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by malenko » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:47 am

Thanks for the input jlgrimes.

I did not know about the one machine license thing. Thankfully I don’t need to work away from my studio yet, but I shall bear that in mind.

This is the weird thing because I haven’t changed anything whatsoever to my machine, maybe the only thing could have been a windows update. One day they were working and simply the next they didn’t. But I have found that they always fail to load on the same sets, and I can’t see any reason as to why.

I have contacted their support and they have been extremely helpful, after just their second response, they want to connect remotely to sort it for me. And they are willing to call me also! So 10/10 for that Waves.

Cheers


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by Stromkraft » Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:39 pm

malenko wrote:Thanks for the input jlgrimes.

I did not know about the one machine license thing. Thankfully I don’t need to work away from my studio yet, but I shall bear that in mind.

It’s very quick to transfer the license to a USB or back to the cloud. Just keep your password and account name around. I’ve saved it in Keychain (Unfortunately you’ll have to copy the password to the clipboard in Keychain Manager as Keychain support isn’t in Waves Central).

In Waves Central you should be able to see what the status of your licenses are.
If you have mistakenly forgot to move your licenses to the cloud prior to upgrading (which is a good idea with any plug-ins), then Waves support should be able to sort you out.

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by malenko » Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:59 am

A guy from Waves technical very kindly connected remotely to my system last night to investigate, and there is absolutely no problem with my licenses, and all have been installed and placed correctly.
After 30 baffling minutes, for him just as much as me, he came to the conclusion that there was a particular set that was creating a bug, and once that set was opened the bug happens, then it would happen to any other sets that are opened after that. The only way to get rid of it is to quit and reopen. Very strange!!
So what was suggested is to import the tracks into a new session and save to perhaps cure it. It didn’t work but I found it was happening with one particular track. Strangely again, when imported this offending track into a new set on its own its fine! So I’ve imported that through a new set, and into another new set with the remaining tracks and for now that seems to have worked, if that makes sense.
So fingers crossed that was the problem and hopefully it doesn’t appear again.

BTW 10/10 again to Waves technical! They even called me at a time that suited me so hat’s of to them, now I feel the money you pay for the plugs ain’t only just for them but also their tech help.

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by Stromkraft » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:27 am

malenko wrote:He came to the conclusion that there was a particular set that was creating a bug, and once that set was opened the bug happens, then it would happen to any other sets that are opened after that. The only way to get rid of it is to quit and reopen. Very strange!!

So what was suggested is to import the tracks into a new session and save to perhaps cure it. It didn’t work but I found it was happening with one particular track. Strangely again, when imported this offending track into a new set on its own its fine! So I’ve imported that through a new set, and into another new set with the remaining tracks and for now that seems to have worked, if that makes sense.

I assume he told you about a bug involving having Waves in your set template? Don’t put them into the template. This is a long standing bug that last bit me with 9.1.

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by malenko » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:32 am

No he didn’t tell me about that bug. And thanks very much for warning me. I usually start with a complete blank template, but I do have a couple I use from time to time so I shall definately remember that.

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by matchr » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:33 pm

I still got this problem!
I will try out to make a new set and import the tracks. Very strange ….


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by Gregwaah » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:42 am

I have multiple Waves plugins on my template set and I have no issues whatsoever. I’ve been doing this for as long as I can remember. I have the SSL plugs on nearly all tracks and Trueverb on a return. What is the bug supposed to do?


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by Stromkraft » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:46 am

Gregwaah wrote:I have multiple Waves plugins on my template set and I have no issues whatsoever. I’ve been doing this for as long as I can remember. I have the SSL plugs on nearly all tracks and Trueverb on a return. What is the bug supposed to do?

When I had this issue in a previous version of Live, I think late 2015, Live did many extremely odd things in the graphical interface that was downright inexplicable. Not in the plug-in GUI but in the Live GUI and not operations directly involving any plug-ins. Which didn’t make this connection apparent to say the least.

I reported the issue to both Ableton as well as Waves. I think Waves support suggested to remove their plug-ins from the template and at once I did that the strange issues stopped. I used Waves VST plug-ins in my template for a year or so before I got any issues so it’s not a A leads to B thing.

Waves have updated their line quite a bit since then when it comes to Live compatibility and now even support side-chaining, which was not the case when I first got them in I think 2014.

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All of a sudden my projects with Wave4s licences won’t open I get an error message and the option to rescan licenses or skip clicking rescan does nothing and when I hit skip sometimes I get through all the waves plugs loaded but mostly Reaper starts to not respond. Maybe a Waves issue but there are other licenses that don’t load from other companies as well, which makes me wonder if this is a Reaper issue the other licenses not found are fro Native Instruments and Plugin Alliance. My Uad stuff works fine as well as Eventide and Slate and Sound Toys. Anyone have an idea what went wrong and how to fix it. I’m in the middle of mixing an album and progress has ground to a halt. I’ve contacted Waves but I’m sure I’ll just hear the «we don’t support Reaper» refrain, so I’d appreciate any help at all. I’m on Win 7 64 with up to date SPs and using Reaper 5 latest ver. Waves License centre latest ver. Take care, Logan Noendahwire Studio

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Do you have the licenses on a USB? If so, it may be a problem with your computer either not recognizing the USB port ot the OS has changed the identifying name of the port. Try reauthorizing them if you can.

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If they’re licensed to your machine, not a stick, have you checked your HDD for faults?

Have you tried re-scanning plugins in REAPER? Do you have another DAW to check that it’s just in REAPER?

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might possibly be related to vst3.

reap5 follows the «standard » routing of vst3 to the program files/common files/vst3 folder.

I seem to recall having a similar problem when I first started using 5pres and updated all my waves/NI/etc plugs to include the vst3 stuff.

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I don’t know about the other plugs but with the Waves stuff it appears to be a problem with their License Centre. Further exploration has shown that the License Centre has disconnected the drive that contains my Licences in their system. I believe this has happened because the network adapter on my mobo took a dump and I had to install a network card and in the process Waves authorised a new device on my computer and where my plugs use to reside is now listed as a disconnected device. I have the plugs on an old ilok as well as in my Daw but none of those licenses are active and I can’t move them to the new device that the license centre has created. The plugs are listed but when they show up there is no check box to select them to be moved from the license cloud to the usb or the new device that Waves has created on my Daw. Seems like a stupid system and makes me rethink whether or not I want to deal with Waves any more. They’re obviously messing with my computer for whatever reason I simply can’t fathom. My production on this record is effectively down while I wait for a response from their support which after 24 hours is nil.

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I don’t know about the other plugs but with the Waves stuff it appears to be a problem with their License Centre. Further exploration has shown that the License Centre has disconnected the drive that contains my Licences in their system. I believe this has happened because the network adapter on my mobo took a dump and I had to install a network card and in the process Waves authorised a new device on my computer and where my plugs use to reside is now listed as a disconnected device. I have the plugs on an old ilok as well as in my Daw but none of those licenses are active and I can’t move them to the new device that the license centre has created. The plugs are listed but when they show up there is no check box to select them to be moved from the license cloud to the usb or the new device that Waves has created on my Daw. Seems like a stupid system and makes me rethink whether or not I want to deal with Waves any more. They’re obviously messing with my computer for whatever reason I simply can’t fathom. My production on this record is effectively down while I wait for a response from their support which after 24 hours is nil.

I had a scarily similar issue with all Waves products over a year ago, and the Waves support response, after a few days, was to do a remote takeover (Teamviewer type thing) and «have a look around. I have retired my Waves plugins.
I do know that you are allowed one «restore» a year, so if you have not used that yet, open the license manager and at the top is an option labelled «recover licenses». That should allow you to restore them to any device. Be careful though, this is what got me finally because I had already had this issue and had already used my once-a-year golden ticket. They refused to take any responsibility and when I asked them to maybe make a few mouse-clicks and give me another restore, they basically laughed and told me that they were fairly confident that the problem was user error…. Look into restoring the licenses, and when you finish the project, I strongly urge you to start looking for replacement plugins…They are out there, and most are even better than what you had….

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I had a scarily similar issue with all Waves products over a year ago, and the Waves support response, after a few days, was to do a remote takeover (Teamviewer type thing) and «have a look around.

I have retired my Waves plugins.

…they basically laughed and told me that they were fairly confident that the problem was user error….

…I strongly urge you to start looking for replacement plugins…They are out there, and most are even better than what you had….

Very similar experience five years ago wherein Waves could care less that I had just purchased a $1900 bundle. I purchased the wrong one and had the wrong operating system as they did not support that version of windows… (the current one at the time)…

They were glad to speak with me for $340 more and see what else I needed to purchase.

I retired the Waves plug-ins too. My iZotope tools are much better, and much more ethical in their business revenue/support model.

Waves is a great example of the King Has no Clothes fable — people just keep saying they are good. But they are not anything special, above what you can find as an ethical alternative if you do your homework. For example, epicVerb, a free reverb plugin tops anything that Waves had in its aresenal when I switched. Similarly, the band compression and spectrum capabilities of Sony Spectral Layers or iZotope Ozone 6 easily top Waves in comparison at a much better cost.

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Very similar experience five years ago wherein Waves could care less that I had just purchased a $1900 bundle. I purchased the wrong one and had the wrong operating system as they did not support that version of windows… (the current one at the time)…

They were glad to speak with me for $340 more and see what else I needed to purchase.

I retired the Waves plug-ins too. My iZotope tools are much better, and much more ethical in their business revenue/support model.

Waves is a great example of the King Has no Clothes fable — people just keep saying they are good. But they are not anything special, above what you can find as an ethical alternative if you do your homework. For example, epicVerb, a free reverb plugin tops anything that Waves had in its aresenal when I switched. Similarly, the band compression and spectrum capabilities of Sony Spectral Layers or iZotope Ozone 6 easily top Waves in comparison at a much better cost.

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I agree in parts here, but the OP is also in a bind with a critical project. I think first priority is to get up and running, even if it is temporary until this project is either complete or has plugins replaced.
But in agreement with TStranger27, everything that Waves makes has an alternative that is at least as good, and in my discoveries, much much better. I hope the OP gets the project sorted out, that is a super-stressful situation to be in, especially if it involves a paying client.

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Indeed it is a critical situation and I could replace the Waves plugs, but as i said the error message seems to most of the time crash Reaper so my projects are essentially being held hostage. I did hear from Waves who confirmed that the computer is identified by it’s network adapter and when that is changed your old device on the License Centre is disconnected. They recommended that I use recover which I will have to do soon in order to get this project out the door. I have protested this because I see Recover as insurance to be used for a broken or stolen device and not a way to remedy a situation where their system has altered my computer and rendered legally owned licenses useless. I don’t know why I can’t just move them from the cloud but they are disabled there too. No response yet to my protest. Great way to lose a customer.

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Indeed it is a critical situation and I could replace the Waves plugs, but as i said the error message seems to most of the time crash Reaper so my projects are essentially being held hostage. I did hear from Waves who confirmed that the computer is identified by it’s network adapter and when that is changed your old device on the License Centre is disconnected. They recommended that I use recover which I will have to do soon in order to get this project out the door. I have protested this because I see Recover as insurance to be used for a broken or stolen device and not a way to remedy a situation where their system has altered my computer and rendered legally owned licenses useless. I don’t know why I can’t just move them from the cloud but they are disabled there too. No response yet to my protest. Great way to lose a customer.

This is exactly what I was describing…..My «recover» option had already been used once for an issue I considered to be due to their odd policies, so when I needed another for the same reason and they would not budge, that was when I decided that I needed to replace them all…too risky.
Use your recover option to save the project, you are not likely to get any other solution from them, trust me. Then quit using the plugins and consider the money loss as lessons learned (my advice based on my very similar experience).

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Indeed it is a critical situation and I could replace the Waves plugs, but as i said the error message seems to most of the time crash Reaper so my projects are essentially being held hostage. I did hear from Waves who confirmed that the computer is identified by it’s network adapter and when that is changed your old device on the License Centre is disconnected. They recommended that I use recover which I will have to do soon in order to get this project out the door. I have protested this because I see Recover as insurance to be used for a broken or stolen device and not a way to remedy a situation where their system has altered my computer and rendered legally owned licenses useless. I don’t know why I can’t just move them from the cloud but they are disabled there too. No response yet to my protest. Great way to lose a customer.

There is a way to load your project with all FX disabled to prevent crashing out on initialization.

I forget exactly what it is, but I seem to remember something like holding alt or something when opening reaper or something like that. There is a way for sure. I’ve had to do that before.

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There is a way to load your project with all FX disabled to prevent crashing out on initialization.

I forget exactly what it is, but I seem to remember something like holding alt or something when opening reaper or something like that. There is a way for sure. I’ve had to do that before.

Definitely, good thinking! Another way is to open Reaper as a blank project, and using the «open» option, navigate to the rpp file for the problem project and select to open in recovery mode (option is on the bottom). Good thinking. So at the very least you can still open it and if needed, remove any plugin and rebuild the project…Not ideal but totally doable.

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Indeed it is a critical situation and I could replace the Waves plugs, but as i said the error message seems to most of the time crash Reaper so my projects are essentially being held hostage. I did hear from Waves who confirmed that the computer is identified by it’s network adapter and when that is changed your old device on the License Centre is disconnected. They recommended that I use recover which I will have to do soon in order to get this project out the door. I have protested this because I see Recover as insurance to be used for a broken or stolen device and not a way to remedy a situation where their system has altered my computer and rendered legally owned licenses useless. I don’t know why I can’t just move them from the cloud but they are disabled there too. No response yet to my protest. Great way to lose a customer.

hay hay my my you all making me scared about waves, im completely opposite I tried all other plugins until I started using waves now I just dont bother with other plugins my go to plugins are waves.

on another note where is your license kept i did not see that or maybe I missed it, even if you have changed your net work card you should still be able to use waves, if licenses is on USB you can put them on cloud, sort your machine dude then bring them back,

waves are not that silly to think that we dont change components on our system, or even build a new system, or even system brake down, buying software online is very dodgy but there are some safe guards we can do.

you should be able to send your license to cloud and all license are registered with waves .

I have removed two HD from my system and I still have waves working.

I can totally understand when things get messed up we wont to blame the product and tell them its your fault, my systems perfect its got to be the products fault,

We do a lot of things our self on our workstation a kind of do it your self but if you were in a company system you could not and will not be able to touch that machine if it brakes down or there was an error, the company would call in technicians who understands all the information about software and PC.

there are some of us me included that install software and close our eyes and hope for the best, not understanding conflicts or what adverse effect it can have on other programs on our system.

Some times when we install things a window item pops up and says this product is not registered and it may do harm to your system, how many of us have had those warnings but we still go ahead and install it anyway because we just got to have it.

few weeks down the line some thing stops working and we forgot about all those warning pop ups

So of course when we go back to the supplier they dont want to know, they cant be sure what crap we have on our system of course they will say get out of here dude.

Can you pay every time something goes wrong with your system can you pay a technician to rectify it some of us cant but that is what software demands that you get the right person to do the job some one who understands the ins and outs, but hay where living in the real world you say, well its not what software says.

there are to many questions to be answered before we can just blame one product and a hundred 1000 people our using that same product with out problems.

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hay hay my my you all making me scared about waves, im completely opposite I tried all other plugins until I started using waves now I just dont bother with other plugins my go to plugins are waves.

on another note where is your license kept i did not see that or maybe I missed it, even if you have changed your net work card you should still be able to use waves, if licenses is on USB you can put them on cloud, sort your machine dude then bring them back,

waves are not that silly to think that we dont change components on our system, or even build a new system, or even system brake down, buying software online is very dodgy but there are some safe guards we can do.

you should be able to send your license to cloud and all license are registered with waves .

I have removed two HD from my system and I still have waves working.

I can totally understand when things get messed up we wont to blame the product and tell them its your fault, my systems perfect its got to be the products fault,

We do a lot of things our self on our workstation a kind of do it your self but if you were in a company system you could not and will not be able to touch that machine if it brakes down or there was an error, the company would call in technicians who understands all the information about software and PC.

there are some of us me included that install software and close our eyes and hope for the best, not understanding conflicts or what adverse effect it can have on other programs on our system.

Some times when we install things a window item pops up and says this product is not registered and it may do harm to your system, how many of us have had those warnings but we still go ahead and install it anyway because we just got to have it.

few weeks down the line some thing stops working and we forgot about all those warning pop ups

So of course when we go back to the supplier they dont want to know, they cant be sure what crap we have on our system of course they will say get out of here dude.

Can you pay every time something goes wrong with your system can you pay a technician to rectify it some of us cant but that is what software demands that you get the right person to do the job some one who understands the ins and outs, but hay where living in the real world you say, well its not what software says.

there are to many questions to be answered before we can just blame one product and a hundred 1000 people our using that same product with out problems.

Well Waves did get back to me and tell me to use recover to re-license my paid for products. I sent them back an email saying that I shouldn’t have to do that and asking for another solution, not quite 24 hours ago and still no response. The issue is indeed created by Waves and their system, which according to them identifies your computer through the network adapter that you have used to register your plugs on their License Centre. If you change that adapter you will have this problem. My licenses resided in two different places, or devices to use their terminology, one an Ilok that I used before they implemented this current version of the license centre and two a hard drive in my computer. the Ilok is still listed as a connected device as is a new device which the License Centre seems to have created on my computer the original device where my licenses existed is still there but listed as a disconnected device. The cloud license is still there as well. In each of these places only the EMI TG12345 license is available and all the other show all my licenses but there is no check box available to select them to move them either to a new USB or to the device that their system created. this should be a simple fix on their part, just give me back access to the licenses on the cloud and I’ll move them issue solved. I’m unwilling to let this go I want Waves to make it right, it’s surely in their power to do so and there’s no reason for them not to except what I see as an imperious nature as I research the issue more and find wacks of folks who have had this very same problem.

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Well Waves did get back to me and tell me to use recover to re-license my paid for products. I sent them back an email saying that I shouldn’t have to do that and asking for another solution, not quite 24 hours ago and still no response. The issue is indeed created by Waves and their system, which according to them identifies your computer through the network adapter that you have used to register your plugs on their License Centre. If you change that adapter you will have this problem. My licenses resided in two different places, or devices to use their terminology, one an Ilok that I used before they implemented this current version of the license centre and two a hard drive in my computer. the Ilok is still listed as a connected device as is a new device which the License Centre seems to have created on my computer the original device where my licenses existed is still there but listed as a disconnected device. The cloud license is still there as well. In each of these places only the EMI TG12345 license is available and all the other show all my licenses but there is no check box available to select them to move them either to a new USB or to the device that their system created. this should be a simple fix on their part, just give me back access to the licenses on the cloud and I’ll move them issue solved. I’m unwilling to let this go I want Waves to make it right, it’s surely in their power to do so and there’s no reason for them not to except what I see as an imperious nature as I research the issue more and find wacks of folks who have had this very same problem.

You will not get a different answer, so if your actual goal is to finish the project, then use the recover option and get on with it. If instead your goal is to try to get them to see where they are wrong (because I agree that they are indeed wrong), then I think that you will be fighting that one indefinitely…They have stated their policy to you, as they did to me as well, and add to that the fact that even before you bought a single Waves plugin, it is very clearly stated on their website that Reaper is not one of the supported platforms..so right or wrong, that’s their disclaimer and on a technical and «legal» level, they are in the «right» and are not obligated to do anything besides what they have already done.
You, on the other hand, have the power of a consumer, the power to not spend any more money on their products and move on to better plugins and a more reasonable company. If you insist on expecting them to change their policy for one person (you), and for a DAW platform that they have very explicitly said that they do not support, you are wishing..wishing does not make it so…..

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Hay Hay My My there are reasons to be nervous…..ha ha. Don’t reject the many awesome options out there…. But if your Waves stuff are behaving consistently for you, count yourself as fortunate (and a bit lucky…ha ha). I own more Waves plugins that I care to admit to, and none of them are currently installed, probably never will be again. I cut my losses.

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You will not get a different answer, so if your actual goal is to finish the project, then use the recover option and get on with it. If instead your goal is to try to get them to see where they are wrong (because I agree that they are indeed wrong), then I think that you will be fighting that one indefinitely…They have stated their policy to you, as they did to me as well, and add to that the fact that even before you bought a single Waves plugin, it is very clearly stated on their website that Reaper is not one of the supported platforms..so right or wrong, that’s their disclaimer and on a technical and «legal» level, they are in the «right» and are not obligated to do anything besides what they have already done.
You, on the other hand, have the power of a consumer, the power to not spend any more money on their products and move on to better plugins and a more reasonable company. If you insist on expecting them to change their policy for one person (you), and for a DAW platform that they have very explicitly said that they do not support, you are wishing..wishing does not make it so…..

I also own licenses to Nuendo and Cubase, even though I don’t use them since I started with Reaper, so I contact them with those DAWS listed so it’s not an issue with their silly anti Reaper policy. The plugs are also disabled in those DAWs as well as Wavelab which I do still use. I definitely will not be buying any more Waves products and I had planned to, and I’ll have to use recover very soon but I’ll continue to slag the bastards at every opportunity until the day I die. Funny how I haven’t heard from support for over 24 hours since I asked for another solution but I have received 4 different emails from Waves dunning me to buy more products. Their recent sales push smacks of a desperate company, perhaps a little respect for their paying customers might be in order. Take care, Logan

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Hay Hay My My there are reasons to be nervous…..ha ha. Don’t reject the many awesome options out there…. But if your Waves stuff are behaving consistently for you, count yourself as fortunate (and a bit lucky…ha ha). I own more Waves plugins that I care to admit to, and none of them are currently installed, probably never will be again. I cut my losses.

I think this is why there was a time that I would never even look at waves,

I think it was the pump that they were giving away free so I installed there center with my heart beating it turned out fine,

Since then I managed to capture a few more freebies from wave with some great plugins at a stupendous cheap offers then I became a fan and now addicted.

probably can do with out other plugins but not with out my waves

Its not the guys or the company its there products I just think there very good, but havent had not one bad experience with the company or the license center each time I have purchased a wave product.

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yeah, i feel for those with all the hassles with Waves.

I started on v9.18 and it worked a charm, but that Pumper freebie would not show up to install. So i updated to V9.21 and i admit it would turn to crap and nothing worked, so i just kept going back to V9.18.

Recently i updated to V9.27 and for some reason it all worked fine, and Pumper and other new plugs appear to install. I was initially going to give Waves a miss, but over the last 2 years have enjoyed using their product with not too much fuss.

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AT risk of being «that guy» (lol), even if I had mostly smooth sailing (which I did not), I have found nothing too special about Waves plugins. There are many other developers who do so much better work for me to worry about the Waves products. When they work, they are ok…but nothing spectacular for me.

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I feel for them too

I think waves do not support any thing below version 9 and they dont support ilok

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I have had more problems with Waves than anything else.
I will not spend/waste any more time with there products.

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AT risk of being «that guy» (lol), even if I had mostly smooth sailing (which I did not), I have found nothing too special about Waves plugins. There are many other developers who do so much better work for me to worry about the Waves products. When they work, they are ok…but nothing spectacular for me.

ha ha no I dont want to have problems with waves so im very careful of what goes on my system.

I dont find waves very special, and there not the best, I just find they tend to have there own character and sound a tube amp feel if you like, I think its there emulations they are so into that, some great amp and EQ emulations

the waves company are also innovators at creating new plugins that make a difference to your sound. kinda a bit like Izotope

if im using other plugins and im trying to select an Eq over say drums or bass I find i can slap any eq on it because they all kinda sound the same nothing really jumps out at me.

but with the waves plugins they sound different in a nice way I find even if you turn the dial a little it changes the character of the sound, they just feel solid to use it just may all be in my head, they tend to be very kind to the CPU.

I feel UA are in the same street as waves probably better but thats another story.

But all in all waves are very simple to use easy to get a fat sound quick, and I generally find they do whats written on the box

If you there at the write time you will always get a great bargain this is a big plus, you really should not be paying nothing close to the full price on getting a top of the range wave plugin or bundle, there sales go through the year, then they have crazy sales, then they have flash sales

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Hi,

All you need to do is have the Waves Center software send the liscence file(s) to your PC.
There’s a section for doing so in the software, you’ll find it.

Then, find where Waves center put the Liscence file on the drive you selected and copy it into the appropriate folder. The same thing happened to me. I wasn’t sure which folder to put in so I copied it both to the Waves folder and the plugin folder where the Waves .dll file was.

Bingo.

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